10:15 p.m.
Is Fedora useable on an HP EliteBook 840 G3?
I have the impression that that is an essay question.
The specs list 2 USB 3.0 ports and 1 USB C ports.
The labeling on the images show
1 USB 3.1 Gen 1 charging
1 USB Basic type C
1 USB 3.1 Gen 1
My guess is that the charging "port" is not really a port
and is just good for charging things.
Correct?
I also guess that the USB Basic type C port is the USB C
port and one of the 2 USB 3.0 ports.
Correct?
Also listed is 16 GB of RAM that is shared with the video.
Any idea how much memory is shared with the video?
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11:31 p.m.
Short answer: yes.
On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 11:15 PM Michael Hennebry <
hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
Is Fedora useable on an HP EliteBook 840 G3?
I have the impression that that is an essay question.
The specs list 2 USB 3.0 ports and 1 USB C ports.
The labeling on the images show
1 USB 3.1 Gen 1 charging
1 USB Basic type C
1 USB 3.1 Gen 1
My guess is that the charging "port" is not really a port
and is just good for charging things.
Correct?
I also guess that the USB Basic type C port is the USB C
port and one of the 2 USB 3.0 ports.
Correct?
Also listed is 16 GB of RAM that is shared with the video.
Any idea how much memory is shared with the video?
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12:54 p.m.
Thank you Terry and Barry.
Am I correct about the USB ports?
Also, I've never put Linux on a TPM-contaminated device.
I've read that it has been done and infer
that it has been done on an HP EliteBook.
My experience has been that finding information
on fedora sites is long drawn-out process.
A pointer to how to install on a TPM device would be nice.
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1:24 p.m.
On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 1:54 PM Michael Hennebry
<hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
Thank you Terry and Barry.
Am I correct about the USB ports?
Charging ports may (or may not) carry data. It depends on the pin
configuration. See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_hardware#USB_battery_charging .
You should check the technical specs of the laptop, or look at the
pins connected on the motherboard.
Jeff
4:18 p.m.
On Sun, 16 Jul 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 1:54?PM Michael Hennebry
<hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
> Am I correct about the USB ports?
Charging ports may (or may not) carry data. It depends on the pin
configuration. See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_hardware#USB_battery_charging .
You should check the technical specs of the laptop, or look at the
pins connected on the motherboard.
The manual (I actually found it) has the same information I gave the list.
My guess is that the laptop has two USB 3.0 data ports,
one of which takes a USB C connector.
My guess is that the USB 3.1 Gen 1 charging port is not a data port.
Otherwise data would have been mentioned.
I'd prefer to know.
BTW HP or newegg has done a better job than most.
On rather a lot of laptops, discovering its ports is a god-awful pain.
If I go to a store with physical laptops,
the ports are never listed.
I have to physically inspect the device.
As the device is nailed down and I do not own anything with a USB 3 port,
recognizing USB 3 ports is a pain.
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2:14 a.m.
On 16 Jul 2023, at 22:19, Michael Hennebry
<hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
My guess is that the laptop has two USB 3.0 data ports,
one of which takes a USB C connector.
My guess is that the USB 3.1 Gen 1 charging port is not a data port.
Otherwise data would have been mentioned.
I'd prefer to know.
All USB-C ports I have seen support power and data. I would expect the HP to be the same.
That means you can plug in an adapter to add more ports and supply power on one cable. I
use Anker adapters to add usb, hdmi, ethernet and DP ports for example.
Barry
7:29 a.m.
On Mon, 2023-07-17 at 08:16 +0100, Barry wrote:
USB-3 is a port with blue insert in it. Older USB are white.
There are some colouring conventions, but it's not a certainty.
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7 a.m.
On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 6:19 PM Michael Hennebry <
hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jul 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 1:54?PM Michael Hennebry
> <hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
>> Am I correct about the USB ports?
>
> Charging ports may (or may not) carry data. It depends on the pin
> configuration. See
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_hardware#USB_battery_charging .
>
> You should check the technical specs of the laptop, or look at the
> pins connected on the motherboard.
The manual (I actually found it) has the same information I gave the list.
My guess is that the laptop has two USB 3.0 data ports,
one of which takes a USB C connector.
My guess is that the USB 3.1 Gen 1 charging port is not a data port.
Otherwise data would have been mentioned.
I'd prefer to know.
There are cheap adapters that have USB-C <--> USB-A available to
allow connecting USB-C devices to a system with only USB-A connections,
and the reverse to allow use of USB-A devices with USB-C ports. You can
also buy USB flash memory "keys" with both USB-A and USB-C (search
for "Lexar Type C Swivel Design").
BTW HP or newegg has done a better job than most.
On rather a lot of laptops, discovering its ports is a god-awful
pain.
If I go to a store with physical laptops,
the ports are never listed.
I have to physically inspect the device.
As the device is nailed down and I do not own anything with a USB 3 port,
recognizing USB 3 ports is a pain.
There will often be very knowledgeable users active on vendor forums
who have already done the research and will share.
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3:57 p.m.
On 16 Jul 2023, at 18:54, Michael Hennebry
<hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
A pointer to how to install on a TPM device would be nice.
It should just work. Fedora works with secure boot enabled.
But beware that if you need to install the rpmfusion drivers you will need
either turn off secure boot or install crypto keys.
Barry
2:38 a.m.
On 16 Jul 2023, at 04:16, Michael Hennebry
<hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
Also listed is 16 GB of RAM that is shared with the video.
Any idea how much memory is shared with the video?
The amount of memory that could be shared is almost all of it.
The amount that is used for graphics will be dynamically worked out by the OS.
Barry
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