On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 09:43:43 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: Because bluetooth is the most persnickety unreliable temperamental protocol ever invented? Sometimes you have to put the device you are trying to connect to into some special mode before it will show up, and the way you do that isn't indicated on the device anywhere so you have to spend an hour finding a copy of the manual on the internet so you can search it for another hour to find the instructions :-). There is also no such thing as "bluetooth", there is version 1, 2 3, 4, 5, maybe up to 6 or 7 by now, and often one version won't be backward compatible with another version.

On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 7:14 PM Tim via users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote: Good one.

On 13/12/22 09:53, Tom Horsley wrote: Yep, my upgraded motherboard I think is using Bluetooth 6. I did have these speakers working some time ago when I was using a Bluetooth 4 dongle, and I was trying to get them working again because my grandchildren are coming to visit again and they were amused by them. I might try them again under windows if I can't get them working under linux. regards, Steve

On 13/12/22 13:46, Stephen Morris wrote: I found out how to pair the speakers under linux when I paired them under windows. The speakers, in the bluetooth search window, were actually the only ones that weren't listed as a mac address. Bluetooth is seeing them as "Hands Free Headphones". I've now got them paired so they now appear as an output device in the sound list. regards, Steve

On Tue, 2022-12-13 at 09:43 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: I have just gone through this kind of pallaver trying to identify what the various MAC addresses refer to on my router and phone. I can only hope that some of the unknown historically listed things are things that I've connected to in the past, rather than rogue things that have connected to me. I've been playing with internet-of-things, or smart devices, lately. Hooking up door reed sensors, remote controlled lamps and lamp sockets. After managing to identify everything, which was a hell of a lot of mucking around. All the gadgets I can get my hands on have been labelled with their manufacturer's device name and MAC, in writing that I can read without needing a magnifying glass. And the things I can't reach without getting a ladder out have been noted down on paper and computer file. It took ages to find out that one rogue WiFi device was a smart TV. It offers itself as an access point for screen mirroring, though not in a way that's chromecast compatible, or compatible with any apps on my phone that I'd rather watch on a large screen (grr, sodding competing standards). There's still one rogue device (I can't remember, now, if it was WiFi or Bluetooth) that's available all over the house at the same power level. If I wander around with a RF sensing app on the phone, it's everywhere. It's non-connectible, and just shows a MAC. I've gone around unplugging everything, but it's still there. I think I even turned off the power to the house, too. Surely it can't be a neighbour's device? The power level would have changed while walking around. It doesn't help that the detecting app has decided not to work in real time, any more. You used to be able to wander around and listen to the beeping change, like you were using a bug detector in a spy movie. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list.