While it is very prevalent in Thunderbird, I also had the problem In Firefox and in gnome terminal.

Since this occurs across applications, I then installed KDE Plasma to eliminate Gnome.

The problems definitely occur in KDE as well as Gnome 3.10.3.

Additionally, I'm seeing some similar problems on Konsole.

The problem is that in some cases when I try to select text I either cannot select an entire body of text. or sometimes a substitution is done.

I also noticed that in Thunderbird sometimes when I left click on a button, it tends to double click.

I sometimes run Thunderbird at work via X over IP therough an SSH tunnel to RHEL 5.10, and the problem does not occur so it seems that the issue appears with the local X server.

> Usual, in the type of design. A receiver plugged into the computer, a > battery powered transmitter in the mouse. OK, that is exactly what I have. Tiny USB receiver plugged into the back of my system.

It is the older trackball with the ball on the left. I have one at work with the ball in the center. In any case, the latest update seemed to have alleviated the problem. Not sure what the issue was..

Never a problem here. Keyboard/mouse retain connection no matter what. I even take the keyboard out of reception range to vacuum out the cat hair while the system is up and bring it back and it reestablishes connection without problem. Just lucky I guess....

On 02/01/2014 05:57 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > On 02/01/2014 03:14 PM, g wrote: <<>> >> selecting above from you post, presents a question, >> >> have you tried using another mouse? >> > > That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Over the years I've had > many mouse cords go bad right at the point where they enter the mouse > body. I usually disassemble the mouse, prune back the cord, and > resolder it back together. That fixes the wacky mouse behavior. get a thumb marble and you can forget about having cord problems. you can forget about keeping a "mouse arena" cleared also. which is one of many reason i got a thumb marble.

On 02/02/14 21:59, Tim wrote: > Or a cordless mouse... The usual wireless ones are a pain, you have to > keep on replacing or recharging batteries, and resyncing hardware (the > transmitter and receiver pair). Not sure what you mean by the "usual wireless ones". FWIW, I've got a Logitech USB keyboard/mouse combo. When I bought them I put a sticker in the battery compartment with the date. I just checked and on Feb 7th it will be one year without changing the batteries in either. Also, neither of the two have any "reconnect" or "resync" buttons and I've never had a "connection" issue. I've also never had to re-solder any connections on any of my mice even though I have one cat that thinks it is hilarious she can maneuver the mouse from anywhere on the desk and toss it to the floor.....usually at 3AM.

> Or a cordless mouse... The usual wireless ones are a pain, you have > to keep on replacing or recharging batteries, and resyncing hardware > (the transmitter and receiver pair).

Not sure what you mean by the "usual wireless ones".

I am running F20 with the latest updates, and recently there is a problem with text selection. While it is very prevalent in Thunderbird, I also had the problem In Firefox and in gnome terminal. Since this occurs across applications, I then installed KDE Plasma to eliminate Gnome. The problems definitely occur in KDE as well as Gnome 3.10.3. Additionally, I'm seeing some similar problems on Konsole. The problem is that in some cases when I try to select text I either cannot select an entire body of text. or sometimes a substitution is done. I also noticed that in Thunderbird sometimes when I left click on a button, it tends to double click. I sometimes run Thunderbird at work via X over IP therough an SSH tunnel to RHEL 5.10, and the problem does not occur so it seems that the issue appears with the local X server. As an example, I clicked at the end of the previous sentence and the background panel came up, so it seems that it is not restricted to an application or rendering engine. At this point I am wondering if anyone else had a similar problem.

Allegedly, on or about 01 February 2014, g sent: > get a thumb marble and you can forget about having cord problems. > > you can forget about keeping a "mouse arena" cleared also. which > is one of many reason i got a thumb marble. Or a cordless mouse... The usual wireless ones are a pain, you have to keep on replacing or recharging batteries, and resyncing hardware (the transmitter and receiver pair). There's another type (that I'd like to try), where the mouse pad plugs into the computer, and you use an unpowered mouse above the pad. Since the mouse pad isn't moved, it should have a long life.

I have to keep resoldering the buttons in my mice, as they get dry joints and become unreliable, due to mechanical stress. Either through normal use, or mice that get dropped off the table and fall on their buttons. Mind you, I'm talking about mice that I've used for many years, other people might just buy a new mouse every couple of years. I don't like being that wasteful

On 02/01/2014 03:14 PM, g wrote:

> selecting above from you post, presents a question, > > have you tried using another mouse? > That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Over the years I've had many mouse cords go bad right at the point where they enter the mouse body. I usually disassemble the mouse, prune back the cord, and resolder it back together. That fixes the wacky mouse behavior.

On 02/01/2014 08:45 PM, g wrote: > > > On 02/01/2014 05:57 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: >> On 02/01/2014 03:14 PM, g wrote: > <<>> >>> selecting above from you post, presents a question, >>> >>> have you tried using another mouse? >>> >> >> That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Over the years I've had >> many mouse cords go bad right at the point where they enter the mouse >> body. I usually disassemble the mouse, prune back the cord, and >> resolder it back together. That fixes the wacky mouse behavior. > > get a thumb marble and you can forget about having cord problems. > > you can forget about keeping a "mouse arena" cleared also. which > is one of many reason i got a thumb marble. > It is a Logitech Marble Mouse (eg. track ball).

It is the older trackball with the ball on the left. I have one at work with the ball in the center. In any case, the latest update seemed to have alleviated the problem. Not sure what the issue was.. On 02/04/2014 05:45 PM, g wrote: > hello jerry, > > On 02/04/2014 11:45 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> On 02/01/2014 08:45 PM, g wrote: >>> >>> On 02/01/2014 05:57 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: >>>> On 02/01/2014 03:14 PM, g wrote: >>> <<>> >>>>> selecting above from you post, presents a question, >>>>> >>>>> have you tried using another mouse? >>>>> >>>> That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Over the years I've had >>>> many mouse cords go bad right at the point where they enter the mouse >>>> body. I usually disassemble the mouse, prune back the cord, and >>>> resolder it back together. That fixes the wacky mouse behavior. >>> get a thumb marble and you can forget about having cord problems. >>> >>> you can forget about keeping a "mouse arena" cleared also. which >>> is one of many reason i got a thumb marble. >>> >> It is a Logitech Marble Mouse (eg. track ball). > ok. > > as i have stated, i have had no problems with mine. and only > maintenance is cleaning the 3 points the ball rolls on. every > couple months, i do clean the lens in bottom area. > > there are 2 types: > thumb, with marble to side - now called ball > palm/fingers, with marble in center - now called marble > > http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs > > because the names have changed with introduction of 'palm', > which model, part number, and serial number? > > are you using standard mouse driver or something logitech related? > > only time that i have used logitech driver was with oos to emulate > scroll wheel. have yet to set up emulation with linux. > [see links below] > > running an update may have included mouse driver. did you check for > that? have you checked your settings? > > > from my bookmarks collection, if you care to read them, ubuntu forums > and linux questions have pages on configuring logitech mice; > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894&s=b2117097c76b9a814d3... > > > https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/logitech-trackball-pro... > > > if you happen to have m570 [which i am doubting]; > > http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Mice-and-Pointing-Devices/M570-and-Linux/td... > > > using xorg.conf and XF86Config; > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/xorg-conf-and-logitech-... > > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/fine-tuning-log... > > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/logitech-ps-2-m... > > > scroll wheel emulation; > > http://blog.karssen.org/2010/09/11/linux-the-logitech-trackman-marble-and... > > > i have more, but i do not want to load the list down. :-) >