9:34 p.m.
OK... I made a copy of my VMware F9 virtual machine, so I could screw
it up to my heart's content and still be able to restore what I had.
Then I went in and said "yum groupremove "KDE Software Development""
and let that run to completion. It left kdebase in place and removed
everything else, so I said "yum remove kdebase" and that took care of
removing all of KDE (or at least I hope so...).
So, if I want to install KDE3, what do I do?
On http://www.kde.org/download/ under "KDE 3 Series", then under
Fedora, it says "KDE 3.5.10 has been pushed as an update for Fedora 8
and 9. The Fedora 8 update includes all of KDE 3.5.10, the Fedora 9
update only the applications which were shipped as KDE 3 versions,
not KDE 4 versions.".
So, does that mean I download all of the files under
"https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-7808" (most,
perhaps all, of which appear to be RPMs), install them all with rpm,
then download everything under
"https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-7780" and
install that over what I installed before?
Or, is there hidden away somewhere a complete archive of KDE 3.5.10
specifically for F9?
I know... "Just try it and see what happens"... I could do that but
I'd rather see if any of you all can offer some insight first.
10:28 p.m.
On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 22:34 -0400, Eric wrote:
So, if I want to install KDE3, what do I do?
AFAIK KDE 3.5 is not supported for F9, except for the limited parts you
already mentioned. Of course you can always compile it yourself (maybe
someone has done it already but I don't know of any such effort).
poc
10:07 a.m.
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
AFAIK KDE 3.5 is not supported for F9, except for the limited parts you
already mentioned. Of course you can always compile it yourself (maybe
someone has done it already but I don't know of any such effort).
I'm currently running KDE 3 on F9.
Have a look at the thread "Successfully upgraded to F9 while keeping KDE 3"
on the fedora-devel list (2/6/2008).
I managed to upgrade from F8 to F9 while excluding all the KDE stuff.
It is not easy, as I had to manually create a couple of rpms for compatibility.
In any case, it has been working perfectly until now, and I'm planning to
upgrade to KDE 3.5.10, simply using the F8 rpms.
Best regards.
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11:04 a.m.
At 11:07 AM 9/30/2008, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>>>>
I managed to upgrade from F8 to F9 while excluding all the KDE stuff.
It is not easy, as I had to manually create a couple of rpms for
compatibility.
<<<<<
Good morning, Roberto.
I didn't upgrade from F8 to F9; I started off with a fresh F9
install, and I was hoping I could get KDE3 to work with that.
I suppose I could blow away F9 and install F8, then upgrade back to
F9... seems like way too much work for limited benefit.
I'm not really that unhappy with KDE4, just thought it would have
been better to leave KDE3 in place as an option until KDE4 was more
nearly ready for prime time (please, no flames... I know that "ready
for prime time" means different things to different people), or to
satisfy those who prefer KDE3 over the apparent "new" direction of KDE4.
But, it is what it is. I'll stick with KDE4 and see how it goes.
12:42 p.m.
Eric wrote:
I didn't upgrade from F8 to F9; I started off with a fresh F9
install, and I was hoping I could get KDE3 to work with that.
Not exactly what you're after, but hopefully clears the air for some of the
questions raised in this thread:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/KDE4FAQ
-- Rex
8:47 p.m.
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Martin <martin(a)cornhobble.com> wrote:
In article <gbtoen$tkt$1(a)ger.gmane.org>,
Rex Dieter <fedora-list(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>Not exactly what you're after, but hopefully clears the air for some of the
>questions raised in this thread:
Clears the air? It looks like excuses for a bad decision.
This looks likes pure opinion.
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8:59 p.m.
On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 20:47 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Martin <martin(a)cornhobble.com>
wrote:
> In article <gbtoen$tkt$1(a)ger.gmane.org>,
> Rex Dieter <fedora-list(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>>Not exactly what you're after, but hopefully clears the air for some of the
>>questions raised in this thread:
>
> Clears the air? It looks like excuses for a bad decision.
This looks likes pure opinion.
----
I think the Fedora-KDE team pretty much anticipated this reaction...he
is not alone but all in all, KDE 4 works pretty well.
Craig
10:13 a.m.
New subject: KDE-SIG
Martin wrote:
In article <gbtoen$tkt$1(a)ger.gmane.org>,
Rex Dieter <fedora-list(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>Not exactly what you're after, but hopefully clears the air for some of
>the questions raised in this thread:
Clears the air? It looks like excuses for a bad decision.
<soapbox>
Good news... if you or anyone are unhappy with the direction Fedora/KDE is
taking, take part within Fedora's KDE-SIG,
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE
See, that's where all the hard decisions and work happens.
I hearby issue a challege for greater community participation moving
forward.
... I double-DOG-dare ya! ... I TRIPLE-dog-dare ya! (1)
</soapbox>
Clearly, there's a lot of interest, otherwise these threads wouldn't keep
resurfacing, right? :)
So, I'm open to feedback and suggestions to make things better in the
future. Let 'er rip.
-- Rex
(1) bonus points for who get's the movie reference first :)
8:21 a.m.
New subject: KDE-SIG
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 10:13 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
<soapbox>
Good news... if you or anyone are unhappy with the direction Fedora/KDE is
taking, take part within Fedora's KDE-SIG,
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE
See, that's where all the hard decisions and work happens.
I hearby issue a challege for greater community participation moving
forward.
... I double-DOG-dare ya! ... I TRIPLE-dog-dare ya! (1)
</soapbox>
Clearly, there's a lot of interest, otherwise these threads wouldn't keep
resurfacing, right? :)
So, I'm open to feedback and suggestions to make things better in the
future. Let 'er rip.
Thanks for sharing this. Is there a KDE-SIG mailing list ?
10:36 a.m.
New subject: KDE-SIG
Linuxguy123 wrote:
Is there a KDE-SIG mailing list ?
Unofficially,
http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=65974
kde-redhat-users, kde-redhat-devel
That said, I usually prefer most discussions take place either here or
fedora-devel, or even on freenode irc, #fedora-kde
I suppose we could push harder to get some fedora-kde lists started. That's
something that the kde-sig could potentially address, if there's interest.
-- Rex
8:45 a.m.
New subject: KDE-SIG
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 10:36 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
Linuxguy123 wrote:
> Is there a KDE-SIG mailing list ?
Unofficially,
http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=65974
kde-redhat-users, kde-redhat-devel
Thanks.
You were right to request that people who are "unhappy" with things get
involved to get their input heard. Good move.
That said, I usually prefer most discussions take place either here
or
fedora-devel, or even on freenode irc, #fedora-kde
Thanks for clarifying that.
I suppose we could push harder to get some fedora-kde lists started.
That's
something that the kde-sig could potentially address, if there's interest.
For me this is unnecessary. I'd like to keep my mailing list count
down. I will probably subscribe to the above list(s) just to monitor
the going ons.
Thanks for your input/efforts in this group and with Linux in general,
Rex. We are quick to comment and complain when things aren't as we
would like, but that doesn't mean we don't appreciate all the work that
you and others like you do for the community. Keep it up. And don't be
shy about informing us how we can help the cause.
11:01 a.m.
New subject: KDE-SIG
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:36:00AM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
Linuxguy123 wrote:
> Is there a KDE-SIG mailing list ?
Unofficially,
http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=65974
kde-redhat-users, kde-redhat-devel
That said, I usually prefer most discussions take place either here or
fedora-devel, or even on freenode irc, #fedora-kde
I suppose we could push harder to get some fedora-kde lists started. That's
something that the kde-sig could potentially address, if there's interest.
-- Rex
I'm interested.
5:16 p.m.
New subject: KDE-SIG
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 10:36:00 am Rex Dieter wrote:
I suppose we could push harder to get some fedora-kde lists started.
That's something that the kde-sig could potentially address, if there's
interest.
-- Rex
definite interest.
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6:22 p.m.
New subject: KDE-SIG
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Anthony Messina <amessina(a)messinet.com>wrote:
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 10:36:00 am Rex Dieter wrote:
> I suppose we could push harder to get some fedora-kde lists started.
> That's something that the kde-sig could potentially address, if there's
> interest.
>
> -- Rex
definite interest.
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9:45 p.m.
New subject: KDE-SIG
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 20:22 -0300, Armin Moradi wrote:
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Anthony Messina
<amessina(a)messinet.com> wrote:
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 10:36:00 am Rex Dieter wrote:
> I suppose we could push harder to get some fedora-kde lists
started.
> That's something that the kde-sig could potentially
address, if there's
> interest.
>
> -- Rex
definite interest.
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12:48 p.m.
New subject: KDE-SIG
John W. Linville wrote:
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:13:48AM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> ... I double-DOG-dare ya! ... I TRIPLE-dog-dare ya! (1)
> (1) bonus points for who get's the movie reference first :)
You'll shoot your eye out, kid...
Congrats, your prize is a shiny new Red Ryder BB gun, enjoy.
-- Rex
6:35 p.m.
New subject: KDE-SIG
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu> wrote:
John W. Linville wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:13:48AM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
>
>> ... I double-DOG-dare ya! ... I TRIPLE-dog-dare ya! (1)
>
>> (1) bonus points for who get's the movie reference first :)
>
> You'll shoot your eye out, kid...
Congrats, your prize is a shiny new Red Ryder BB gun, enjoy.
No, no, NO! He has to win a "Major Award"!
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