8:12 p.m.
For the longest time I used gthumb for picture viewer. I even installed
a gnome app on my Xfce desktop with Fedora21, but I did not like what
they did to gthumb in Fedora22. I almost shudder to think what it looks
like in F24 (though I could try the liveCD and see...).
Anyway, Ristretto in Xfce is really not adequate, so I am asking really
nicely, please for recommendations.
:)
What picture viewer do you use on F24?
thanks
2:25 a.m.
On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:12:04 -0400 Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com> wrote:
For the longest time I used gthumb for picture viewer. I even
installed
a gnome app on my Xfce desktop with Fedora21, but I did not like what
they did to gthumb in Fedora22. I almost shudder to think what it looks
like in F24 (though I could try the liveCD and see...).
Anyway, Ristretto in Xfce is really not adequate, so I am asking really
nicely, please for recommendations.
I guess it depends on what exactly you mean by "adequate" but I use gpicview. My
guess is that it is perhaps even less than adequate for you, but it gets the jobs done for
me.
Best wishes,
Ranjan
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7:13 a.m.
On 08/17/2016 03:25 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:12:04 -0400 Robert Moskowitz
<rgm(a)htt-consult.com> wrote:
> For the longest time I used gthumb for picture viewer. I even installed
> a gnome app on my Xfce desktop with Fedora21, but I did not like what
> they did to gthumb in Fedora22. I almost shudder to think what it looks
> like in F24 (though I could try the liveCD and see...).
>
> Anyway, Ristretto in Xfce is really not adequate, so I am asking really
> nicely, please for recommendations.
I guess it depends on what exactly you mean by "adequate" but I use gpicview.
My guess is that it is perhaps even less than adequate for you, but it gets the jobs done
for me.
Valid point. I 'grew up' with gthumb with all those years of using
gnome until I bailed with F21 for Xfce. The switch to Xfce was driven
by my work with the Fedroa-arm builds and on armv7 chips, you really
don't want to run gnome. Those early arm builds all had Xfce and I
liked it. So for a while I still used gthumb, but came to dislike it
with F22.
So what do I want a picture viewer to provide:
A directory tree view so I can go through all of my picture directories
easily.
A thumbprint view so I can scan down easily for the pictures I want to
see/show.
A full screen pic viewer that offers editing and printing.
Slideshow function and support animated gifs (I encountered one viewer
somewhere that did not)
Not a big list. gthumb on F21 was just right, but with F22 became too
feature rich (but was really good for printing).
7:22 a.m.
On Wed, 2016-08-17 at 08:13 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 08/17/2016 03:25 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:12:04 -0400 Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com>
wrote:
>
> >
> > For the longest time I used gthumb for picture viewer. I even installed
> > a gnome app on my Xfce desktop with Fedora21, but I did not like what
> > they did to gthumb in Fedora22. I almost shudder to think what it looks
> > like in F24 (though I could try the liveCD and see...).
> >
> > Anyway, Ristretto in Xfce is really not adequate, so I am asking really
> > nicely, please for recommendations.
> I guess it depends on what exactly you mean by "adequate" but I use
gpicview. My guess is that it is perhaps even less than adequate for you, but it gets the
jobs done for me.
Valid point. I 'grew up' with gthumb with all those years of using
gnome until I bailed with F21 for Xfce. The switch to Xfce was driven
by my work with the Fedroa-arm builds and on armv7 chips, you really
don't want to run gnome. Those early arm builds all had Xfce and I
liked it. So for a while I still used gthumb, but came to dislike it
with F22.
So what do I want a picture viewer to provide:
A directory tree view so I can go through all of my picture directories
easily.
A thumbprint view so I can scan down easily for the pictures I want to
see/show.
A full screen pic viewer that offers editing and printing.
Slideshow function and support animated gifs (I encountered one viewer
somewhere that did not)
Not a big list. gthumb on F21 was just right, but with F22 became too
feature rich (but was really good for printing).
One more thing I'd like but haven't found anywhere yet:
A way to reorder the pictures in a directory (like a slide show) but
actually assign regular names so they maintain the lexical ordering. I
have a large number of old slides I've scanned and want to re-order
them by their chronological date, but of course they have no
timestamps.
poc
7:34 a.m.
On 08/17/2016 08:22 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2016-08-17 at 08:13 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> On 08/17/2016 03:25 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:12:04 -0400 Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> For the longest time I used gthumb for picture viewer. I even installed
>>> a gnome app on my Xfce desktop with Fedora21, but I did not like what
>>> they did to gthumb in Fedora22. I almost shudder to think what it looks
>>> like in F24 (though I could try the liveCD and see...).
>>>
>>> Anyway, Ristretto in Xfce is really not adequate, so I am asking really
>>> nicely, please for recommendations.
>> I guess it depends on what exactly you mean by "adequate" but I use
gpicview. My guess is that it is perhaps even less than adequate for you, but it gets the
jobs done for me.
> Valid point. I 'grew up' with gthumb with all those years of using
> gnome until I bailed with F21 for Xfce. The switch to Xfce was driven
> by my work with the Fedroa-arm builds and on armv7 chips, you really
> don't want to run gnome. Those early arm builds all had Xfce and I
> liked it. So for a while I still used gthumb, but came to dislike it
> with F22.
>
> So what do I want a picture viewer to provide:
>
> A directory tree view so I can go through all of my picture directories
> easily.
> A thumbprint view so I can scan down easily for the pictures I want to
> see/show.
> A full screen pic viewer that offers editing and printing.
> Slideshow function and support animated gifs (I encountered one viewer
> somewhere that did not)
>
> Not a big list. gthumb on F21 was just right, but with F22 became too
> feature rich (but was really good for printing).
One more thing I'd like but haven't found anywhere yet:
A way to reorder the pictures in a directory (like a slide show) but
actually assign regular names so they maintain the lexical ordering. I
have a large number of old slides I've scanned and want to re-order
them by their chronological date, but of course they have no
timestamps.
For a couple like that I have gone through the work with renaming the
files with a prefix to order them by name or using touch to date them
appropriately. A 'playlist' feature would be nicer.
8:49 a.m.
So what do I want a picture viewer to provide:
[1] A directory tree view so I can go through all of my picture
directories
easily.
[2] A thumbprint view so I can scan down easily for the pictures I
want
to see/show.
[3] A full screen pic viewer that offers editing and printing.
[4] Slideshow function and support animated gifs (I encountered one
viewer
somewhere that did not)
Not a big list. gthumb on F21 was just right, but with F22 became too
feature rich
(but was really good for printing).
Personally I just use the file manager for 1 and 2 set to thumbnail and
zoomed to see the image thumbnails on my xfce system. GIMP comes into play
to manipulate the image and make adjustments, a right-click operation. And
the default image viewer for a quick full screen look or slide show
operation handled 3 and 4. I don't do heavy image work like I used too, so
this works for me. When I did do work on my photography Shotwell worked
for the things you asked; though I didn't use the image adjustments in the
software, again GIMP worked well especially when I added the RAW support
for my Nikon. My 2 bits.
Fred
1:16 p.m.
Allegedly, on or about 17 August 2016, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
A way to reorder the pictures in a directory (like a slide show) but
actually assign regular names so they maintain the lexical ordering. I
have a large number of old slides I've scanned and want to re-order
them by their chronological date, but of course they have no
timestamps.
Probably back several releases, gthumb offered a feature useful for
this, but I cannot recall what software I used to do it any more. You
can add EXIF data to pictures that don't have it, letting you write in
the photos real data, rather than a file-creation date, and sort on that
data.
Upon reflection, it may not of have been gthumb, it seems to like
putting metadata in an XML file, rather than in the image. Making it
hard to use the images outside of the gthumb program.
While there's value in having external metadata, it's not convenient for
sending files here and there. You have to hunt down the extra file to
include it, the recipient has to keep both files, and has to have
software that reads the XML file.
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On 8/16/16, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com> wrote:
For the longest time I used gthumb for picture viewer. I even
installed
a gnome app on my Xfce desktop with Fedora21, but I did not like what
they did to gthumb in Fedora22. I almost shudder to think what it looks
like in F24 (though I could try the liveCD and see...).
Anyway, Ristretto in Xfce is really not adequate, so I am asking really
nicely, please for recommendations.
:)
What picture viewer do you use on F24?
Irfanview under WINE.
http://www.boekhoff.info/?pid=linux&tip=install-irfan-view-on-linux
I do not consider any "picture viewer" without print or crop functions
to be serious.
Most of the FOSS/Linux ones I've seen shipped by Linux distros are a
f*cking joke.
FC
4:50 a.m.
On 8/17/16, Fernando Cassia <fcassia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyway, Ristretto in Xfce is really not adequate, so I am asking
really
> nicely, please for recommendations.
> What picture viewer do you use on F24?
Irfanview under WINE.
http://www.boekhoff.info/?pid=linux&tip=install-irfan-view-on-linux
This post is newer and has more info -wrt winetricks, and 64bit-
https://techblog.jeppson.org/2016/05/use-irfanview-linux-wine/
FC
4:56 a.m.
You are asking alternative of default image viewer right?
Check this project http://sachinchoolur.github.io/lightgallery-desktop/
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Fernando Cassia <fcassia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/17/16, Fernando Cassia <fcassia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Anyway, Ristretto in Xfce is really not adequate, so I am asking really
>> nicely, please for recommendations.
>> What picture viewer do you use on F24?
>
> Irfanview under WINE.
>
> http://www.boekhoff.info/?pid=linux&tip=install-irfan-view-on-linux
This post is newer and has more info -wrt winetricks, and 64bit-
https://techblog.jeppson.org/2016/05/use-irfanview-linux-wine/
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On 8/17/16, Dev <dev(a)kriptonium.com> wrote:
You are asking alternative of default image viewer right?
Check this project http://sachinchoolur.github.io/lightgallery-desktop/
It says "node.js" but my mind reads "ebola".
FC
7:57 a.m.
On 8/17/16 3:50 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On 8/17/16, Fernando Cassia <fcassia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Anyway, Ristretto in Xfce is really not adequate, so I am asking really
>> nicely, please for recommendations.
>> What picture viewer do you use on F24?
>
> Irfanview under WINE.
>
> http://www.boekhoff.info/?pid=linux&tip=install-irfan-view-on-linux
This post is newer and has more info -wrt winetricks, and 64bit-
https://techblog.jeppson.org/2016/05/use-irfanview-linux-wine/
Have you been able to have IrfanView open an image when just
double-clicking on the image in your file explorer? My previous
attempts at this failed, although the IrfanView application itself, once
opened through the wine menu, worked without a hitch.
Jon
10:56 a.m.
Am 17.08.2016 um 14:57 schrieb Jon Danniken:
On 8/17/16 3:50 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On 8/17/16, Fernando Cassia <fcassia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Anyway, Ristretto in Xfce is really not adequate, so I am asking
>>> really
>>> nicely, please for recommendations.
>>> What picture viewer do you use on F24?
>>
>> Irfanview under WINE.
>>
>> http://www.boekhoff.info/?pid=linux&tip=install-irfan-view-on-linux
>
> This post is newer and has more info -wrt winetricks, and 64bit-
> https://techblog.jeppson.org/2016/05/use-irfanview-linux-wine/
Have you been able to have IrfanView open an image when just
double-clicking on the image in your file explorer? My previous
attempts at this failed, although the IrfanView application itself,
once opened through the wine menu, worked without a hitch.
You can associate any file type (eg pictures like .tif, .png, ...) to
applications installed through wine, see eg:
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/227195/how-to-create-a-custom-com....
In short:
Create a shellscript "iviewstart" somewhere (in my case: ~/bin/):
#!/bin/sh
QUICKPARLOCATION="C:\Programme\IrfanView\i_view32.exe"
PARAM=`winepath -w "$*"`
wine "$QUICKPARLOCATION" "$PARAM"
exit 0
Make it executable and change the file associations of your desktop
envirement for the respective image types to iviewstart.
I used a a similar technique to associate "Foxit Reader" with pdf-files.
11:24 a.m.
On 8/17/16 9:56 AM, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
Am 17.08.2016 um 14:57 schrieb Jon Danniken:
>
>
> On 8/17/16 3:50 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>> This post is newer and has more info -wrt winetricks, and 64bit-
>> https://techblog.jeppson.org/2016/05/use-irfanview-linux-wine/
>
> Have you been able to have IrfanView open an image when just
> double-clicking on the image in your file explorer? My previous
> attempts at this failed, although the IrfanView application itself,
> once opened through the wine menu, worked without a hitch.
You can associate any file type (eg pictures like .tif, .png, ...) to
applications installed through wine, see eg:
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/227195/how-to-create-a-custom-com....
In short:
Create a shellscript "iviewstart" somewhere (in my case: ~/bin/):
#!/bin/sh
QUICKPARLOCATION="C:\Programme\IrfanView\i_view32.exe"
PARAM=`winepath -w "$*"`
wine "$QUICKPARLOCATION" "$PARAM"
exit 0
Make it executable and change the file associations of your desktop
envirement for the respective image types to iviewstart.
I used a a similar technique to associate "Foxit Reader" with pdf-files.
Thanks for that Klaus, I appreciate it.
Jon
4:50 a.m.
On 08/17/2016 03:12 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
For the longest time I used gthumb for picture viewer. I even
installed
a gnome app on my Xfce desktop with Fedora21, but I did not like what
they did to gthumb in Fedora22. I almost shudder to think what it looks
like in F24 (though I could try the liveCD and see...).
Anyway, Ristretto in Xfce is really not adequate, so I am asking really
nicely, please for recommendations.
:)
What picture viewer do you use on F24?
Hi
I use the last Digikam-5 and Gliv.
The best: Digikam-5 (important: now, has few kde dependencies)
Gliv is opengl based. I like its zooming facilities.
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5:14 a.m.
I totally agree - xv is still exceptionally good!
> On 17 Aug 2016, at 10:55, Andras Simon <szajmi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2016-08-17 3:12 GMT+02:00, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com>:
>
>>
>> What picture viewer do you use on F24?
>>
>
> In 25+ years of using linux, I haven't seen anything that comes close
> to xv. I don't know about F24, but in F23 it's still available from
> rpmfusion.
>
> Andras
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Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:14:33 +0100
Ntlworld <andy.paterson(a)ntlworld.com> kirjoitti:
I totally agree - xv is still exceptionally good!
> On 17 Aug 2016, at 10:55, Andras Simon <szajmi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2016-08-17 3:12 GMT+02:00, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com>:
>
>>
>> What picture viewer do you use on F24?
Genview anyway shows pictures and included F-24
7:02 a.m.
On 08/17/2016 06:59 AM, jarmo wrote:
Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:14:33 +0100
Ntlworld <andy.paterson(a)ntlworld.com> kirjoitti:
> I totally agree - xv is still exceptionally good!
>
>> On 17 Aug 2016, at 10:55, Andras Simon <szajmi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2016-08-17 3:12 GMT+02:00, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com>:
>>
>>> What picture viewer do you use on F24?
Genview anyway shows pictures and included F-24
But not default installed with the Xfce environment.
thanks
8:20 a.m.
On 08/17/2016 08:57 AM, jarmo wrote:
Wed, 17 Aug 2016 08:02:21 -0400
Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com> kirjoitti:
> But not default installed with the Xfce environment.
No, but dnf install Genview is not a big deal?
It was a question on your original wording. If it is not part of the
default install, then one would like a little foreknowledge on what is
worth installing and checking out.
8:47 a.m.
Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:20:40 -0400
Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com> kirjoitti:
It was a question on your original wording. If it is not part of the
default install, then one would like a little foreknowledge on what
is worth installing and checking out.
I'm using it, good enough for me
9:24 a.m.
On 08/17/16 21:20, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 08/17/2016 08:57 AM, jarmo wrote:
> Wed, 17 Aug 2016 08:02:21 -0400
> Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com> kirjoitti:
>
>
>> But not default installed with the Xfce environment.
> No, but dnf install Genview is not a big deal?
It was a question on your original wording. If it is not part of the default install,
then one would like a little foreknowledge on what is worth installing and checking out.
Really, the ultimate arbitrator to determine if something is worth installing or fits
your
needs is "you".
The idea of asking the "world" what is the "best" anything is a
fool's errand when the
"world's" concept of best, or even decent, is purely subjective and not
universally shared.
The packages installed by default was done by a group of people who may or may not have
taken your views into consideration.
If anything, just ask what "viewers" (I put viewers in quotes since you also
seem to want
a certain degree of editing) others use and then install them and test them to see if
they
meet "your" requirements. You can always uninstall things that don't live
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9:32 a.m.
On Wed, 17 Aug 2016, jarmo wrote:
Wed, 17 Aug 2016 08:02:21 -0400
Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com> kirjoitti:
>
> But not default installed with the Xfce environment.
No, but dnf install Genview is not a big deal?
--
Do you mean Gwenview rather than Genview? I've been following this thread a little,
and there's no "genview" or "Genview" available when I poke around
using dnf, at least with my repositories. Doing a quick search on the intertubes reveals
a couple of "Genview" programs, neither of which seem to apply here.
If you mean Gwenview, I'm getting the impression the OP wants more integrated editing
capabilities, i.e. he wants the lightable capabilities of Digikam combined with the
editing of ShowFoto, but in a lightweight program that doesn't drag in all the
dependencies of Gnome of KDE.
Gwenview doesn't really have the immediate editing things, and I get the impression he
wants a more traditional directory-tree-in-a-sidebar kind of interface.
But I could be wrong...
What about RawTherapee? I know it's supposed to be mostly for RAW images, but it can
read common formats, and I think it does all the stuff the OP asks for.
billo
10:16 a.m.
Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:32:45 -0500 (CDT)
vendor(a)billoblog.com kirjoitti:
Do you mean Gwenview rather than Genview? I've been following this
thread a little, and there's no "genview" or "Genview" available
when
Argh, my bad, English is not my native, my fingers are like sausages
terrible typo.
Gwenview yes.
Humble apologizes
10:25 a.m.
On Wed, 17 Aug 2016, jarmo wrote:
Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:32:45 -0500 (CDT)
vendor(a)billoblog.com kirjoitti:
>
> Do you mean Gwenview rather than Genview? I've been following this
> thread a little, and there's no "genview" or "Genview"
available when
Argh, my bad, English is not my native, my fingers are like sausages
terrible typo.
Gwenview yes.
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10:23 a.m.
On Wed, 17 Aug 2016, vendor(a)billoblog.com wrote:
But I could be wrong...
What about RawTherapee? I know it's supposed to be mostly for RAW images,
but it can read common formats, and I think it does all the stuff the OP asks
for.
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but it also might have the GUI you want and incorporates a fair amount of editing.
It's also in Java, so you don't pull in a lot of Gnome and KDE stuff.
billo
8:53 a.m.
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Andras Simon <szajmi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In 25+ years of using linux, I haven't seen anything that comes
close
to xv.
Correct answer. I've been using it since the late '80s, and it's still
the best option for the vast majority of use cases. For the few
exceptions, I tend to use geeqie (which is in the default
repositories).
Tet
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6:19 p.m.
On 17/08/16 07:53, Tethys wrote:
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Andras Simon
<szajmi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> In 25+ years of using linux, I haven't seen anything that comes close
> to xv.
Correct answer. I've been using it since the late '80s, and it's still
the best option for the vast majority of use cases. For the few
exceptions, I tend to use geeqie (which is in the default
repositories).
Tet
I would go with geeqie as well but it doesn't support animated gifs from
my usage.
Note, for some purposes, you HAVE to change the preferences to meet your
needs.
Will have to try xv again.
Robin
10:43 a.m.
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
[...]
I don't know about decent picture viewers, but I have some experience with
indecent picture viewers, if that helps :)
11:45 a.m.
On 08/18/2016 05:43 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
I don't know about decent picture viewers, but I have some
experience with
indecent picture viewers, if that helps :)
Change your mind. No comparison with
other viewers.
https://www.digikam.org/
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12:21 a.m.
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know about decent picture viewers, but I have some
experience with
indecent picture viewers, if that helps :)
Remember this meme.
;)
http://img.memecdn.com/your-porn-collection_o_152855.jpg
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1:35 a.m.
Neal Becker:
> I don't know about decent picture viewers, but I have some
experience
> with indecent picture viewers, if that helps :)
Fernando Cassia:
Remember this meme.
;)
http://img.memecdn.com/your-porn-collection_o_152855.jpg
I was expecting the "on the internet no-one knows you're a dog" one. ;-)
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