i*know* it does this ... i've seen the above. but for the purposes of writing documentation and courseware, i want to be able to*point* at something and say, "see? this is how it works." and, as far as i can tell, neither the man page nor "yumdownloader -h" makes that clear.

Hi On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Robert P. J. Day <wrote:   currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora wiki pages:   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel and i'm fairly sure that "yumdownloader --source" does *not* need the user to explicitly enable the source repos, yumdownloader will do that automatically, yes? It used to be the case that you had to specify the repos explicitly but yumdownloader got smarter and you don't have to do that anymore. It appears that this change was not clearly documented in the man page however. So in addition to updating the wiki page, I would *also* file a bug report against yum-utils to update the man page as well but keep in mind, dnf is merging the functionality of yumdownloader directly into dnf (which in turn might become the new yum in a couple of releases). So it might be helpful to check and file a bug report against dnf as well

That'll work, as long as you disable any 3rd party repos you may have which don't have rawhide components.

--enablerepo would need to be available to yumdownloader since the user may well want to download the source from "rawhide" so they indeed need to enable it.

currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora wiki pages: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel and i'm fairly sure that "yumdownloader --source" does *not* need the user to explicitly enable the source repos, yumdownloader will do that automatically, yes?

On 02/12/14 06:27, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:23:37 -0500 (EST) >> "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday(a)crashcourse.ca&gt; wrote: >> >>> currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora >>> wiki pages: >>> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel >>> >>> and i'm fairly sure that "yumdownloader --source" does *not* need the >>> user to explicitly enable the source repos, yumdownloader will do that >>> automatically, yes? where is that actually stated? "man yumdownloader" >>> doesn't say that but it seems to work fine for me here, i just want to >>> know where i can point to make that clear. thanks. >>> >>> rday >>> >> yumdownloader -h (--help) > that does not clarify what i was asking about -- it simply says that > "--source" operates on source packages. Well, it actually says.... yumdownloader options: --destdir=DESTDIR destination directory (defaults to current directory) --urls just list the urls it would download instead of downloading --resolve resolve dependencies and download required packages --source operate on source packages --archlist=ARCHLIST only download packages of certain architecture(s) So, those 5 options are the ones that apply to "yumdownloader". Since there is no mention of --enablerepo being part of the options applicable to "yumdownloader" it implies that option is not available/needed.

On 02/12/14 06:47, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > i just want something i can point at that proves the point. Yeah, I just realized that and sent a second message. Not enough coffee.... :-)

On 02/12/14 06:27, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:23:37 -0500 (EST) >> "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday(a)crashcourse.ca&gt; wrote: >> >>> currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora >>> wiki pages: >>> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel >>> >>> and i'm fairly sure that "yumdownloader --source" does *not* need the >>> user to explicitly enable the source repos, yumdownloader will do that >>> automatically, yes? where is that actually stated? "man yumdownloader" >>> doesn't say that but it seems to work fine for me here, i just want to >>> know where i can point to make that clear. thanks. >>> >>> rday >>> >> yumdownloader -h (--help) > that does not clarify what i was asking about -- it simply says that > "--source" operates on source packages. Well, it actually says.... yumdownloader options: --destdir=DESTDIR destination directory (defaults to current directory) --urls just list the urls it would download instead of downloading --resolve resolve dependencies and download required packages --source operate on source packages --archlist=ARCHLIST only download packages of certain architecture(s) So, those 5 options are the ones that apply to "yumdownloader". Since there is no mention of --enablerepo being part of the options applicable to "yumdownloader" it implies that option is not available/needed.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:23:37 -0500 (EST) > "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday(a)crashcourse.ca&gt; wrote: > >> currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora >> wiki pages: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel >> >> and i'm fairly sure that "yumdownloader --source" does *not* need the >> user to explicitly enable the source repos, yumdownloader will do that >> automatically, yes? where is that actually stated? "man yumdownloader" >> doesn't say that but it seems to work fine for me here, i just want to >> know where i can point to make that clear. thanks. >> >> rday >> > yumdownloader -h (--help) that does not clarify what i was asking about -- it simply says that "--source" operates on source packages.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:23:37 -0500 (EST) "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday(a)crashcourse.ca&gt; wrote: > > currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora > wiki pages: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel > > and i'm fairly sure that "yumdownloader --source" does *not* need the > user to explicitly enable the source repos, yumdownloader will do that > automatically, yes? where is that actually stated? "man yumdownloader" > doesn't say that but it seems to work fine for me here, i just want to > know where i can point to make that clear. thanks. > > rday > yumdownloader -h (--help)

On 11.02.2014 23:48, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 02/12/14 06:27, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >>> On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Frank Murphy wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:23:37 -0500 (EST) >>>> "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday(a)crashcourse.ca&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora >>>>> wiki pages: >>>>> >>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel >>>>> >>>>> and i'm fairly sure that "yumdownloader --source" does *not* need the >>>>> user to explicitly enable the source repos, yumdownloader will do that >>>>> automatically, yes? where is that actually stated? "man yumdownloader" >>>>> doesn't say that but it seems to work fine for me here, i just want to >>>>> know where i can point to make that clear. thanks. >>>>> >>>>> rday >>>>> >>>> yumdownloader -h (--help) >>> that does not clarify what i was asking about -- it simply says that >>> "--source" operates on source packages. >> >> Well, it actually says.... >> >> yumdownloader options: >> --destdir=DESTDIR destination directory (defaults to current directory) >> --urls just list the urls it would download instead of >> downloading >> --resolve resolve dependencies and download required packages >> --source operate on source packages >> --archlist=ARCHLIST >> only download packages of certain architecture(s) >> >> So, those 5 options are the ones that apply to "yumdownloader". >> Since there is no mention of --enablerepo being part of the options >> applicable to "yumdownloader" it implies that option is not >> available/needed. > > ok, i'll take that as the best confirmation i can get. thanks. > > rday > def setupSourceRepos(self): # enable the -source repos for enabled primary repos http://yum.baseurl.org/gitweb?p=yum-utils.git;a=blob;f=yumdownloader.py;h... "… Never disable source repos. …" http://yum.baseurl.org/gitweb?p=yum-utils.git;a=commit;h=a4eb3957dbf36f29... "make the '--source' work and make it a little smarter so the 'reponame-source' are enabled automaticly for all enabled repos, when '--source' is used. …" http://yum.baseurl.org/gitweb?p=yum-utils.git;a=commit;h=75b53276b1a0a061...