On 7/30/05, Andy Pieters <mailings(a)vlaamse-kern.com&gt; wrote: Is this a question? Are you looking for a solution? There is one, you know... Dotan Cohen http://song-lirics.com/sl/artist/395/papa-roach-lirics.php Papa Roach

On 7/30/05, Andy Pieters <mailings(a)vlaamse-kern.com&gt; wrote: You do like this: 1) Hi list, this is my problem: 2) This is what I did before the problem started/ here is how to reproduce the problem: 3) This is how I tried to fix it: 4) This is where I searched and this is what I found: 5) It didn't fix my problem because: If you got this far (and I rarely do get to step 5, step 4 is usually enough), then more than likely someone with far greater experience with you, who has already solved exactly the same problem, will smile and say "try this". Dotan http://song-lirics.com/sl/artist/377/nine-inch-nails-lirics.php Nine Inch Nails

nodata wrote: If the error that he experienced is similar to the lockup reading that I experienced. The system acts like it was frozen in time. Everything stops at where it was and nothing works after the hang except a reboot. The screen has the same items displayed, the mouse is unresponsive, the keyboard is unreponsive. This should not happen to a system when a bad CD, floppy or usb media device is nounted on the system. Nobody wants their system killed by corrupted media which is not part of the core operating system. -- Windows: The answer to a question nobody has ever asked.

Jim Cornette wrote: I almost agree with you. I'd just leave out "which is not part of the core operating system." I thought the original message was a nicely put criticism. FCx has a real problem which certain other OS do not have. It should be fixed. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} This message made from 100% recycled bits. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!

Matthew Saltzman wrote: Didn't say it was a reason not to use FCx. I think the guy with the problem should be the one to make an entry. I don't have any music CDs, so I can't really create an entry with any useful data in it. It's so tacky, don't you think, to create problem reports with gossip in them? Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} This message made from 100% recycled bits. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!

Matthew Saltzman wrote: I did find an existing bug that referred to removing hotpluggable devices which caused a system freeze. The bug looked nasty and is only remotely related to the problem I encountered. The bug is filed against kernel-utils, but could be a function of another program. The kernel version that I had troubles with has since been replaced and does seem to be at the core of the lockup that I experienced. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=164868 Jim -- Laugh, and the world ignores you. Crying doesn't help either.

Andy Pieters wrote: Andy: I have had this exact same issue happen to me on 3 different occasions. I have not yet been able to reliably duplicate the problem. What I have discovered is that it appears that X is not responding to input. What I did each time was to exit X by pressing and holding down Control and ALT then pressing the Backspace key. This will tell X to exit gracefully and so far it has worked for me every time this has happened. I have my firewall set to block everything so I don't know if I would have been able to ssh in or not. Try that if it locks up on you again and see if that at least allows you to regain control of the system. Jim

Hi all I thought this thread was dead after the remarks of someone who thinks the meaning of life is to force his opinion about my way of posting... Still, the cd isn't copy protected. It is, in fact, three years old and has seen more of the carpet then my vacuum cleaner. That, and the fact that rented dvd's frequently cause the same problem (even worse, soundcard stuck in passthru because xine crashed) only emphasises my original assesment that a bad medium causes real problems with FC. I have no idea whatsoever as to how the os handles removable media, but it seems that it is not limited to physical media. For instance, try umounting an nfs share when the server "sharing" is down. Bad sectors on media are detected and logged, so how about trying to read three times, if it still fails, abandon, unlock the volume, and signal the program that the disk is no longer mounted or is corrupted. With kind regards Andy On Saturday 30 July 2005 21:15, Captain Bubudiu wrote: -- Registered Linux User Number 379093 Now listening to Top! Radio Live Stream: mms://broadcast.ionip.be/topradioHigh amaroK::the Coolest Media Player in the known Universe! Cockroaches and socialites are the only things that can stay up all night and eat anything. Herb Caen -- -- --BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GAT/O/>E$ d-(---)>+ s:(+)>: a--(-)>? C++++$(+++) UL++++>++++$ P-(+)>++ L+++>++++$ E---(-)@ W+++>+++$ !N@ o? !K? W--(---) !O !M- V-- PS++(+++) PE--(-) Y+ PGP++(+++) t+(++) 5-- X++ R*(+)@ !tv b-() DI(+) D+(+++) G(+) e>++++$@ h++(*) r-->++ y--()>++++ -- ---END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ -- Check out these few php utilities that I released under the GPL2 and that are meant for use with a php cli binary: http://www.vlaamse-kern.com/sas/ --

On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 12:03 -0400, Jim wrote: This has been mentioned here on the list, and the one thing I have seen repeated is the copy-protection theme. The fix has been to avoid copy-protected CDs. Works every time. Any CD that trashes my PC will quickly become part of the land fill after I complain to the vendor and make him take it back and give me a different one. They often don't even play in a standard CD player, which is what triggers the replacement with a different one.