8:13 a.m.
Sam Varshavchik wrote, On 11/05/2008 06:35 PM:
I, personally, use the Cannon MF-4270. I had to hack some bugs out of
sane's pixma driver, but once I did that, it worked fine. The fixes went
upstream, they should be in the next version of sane, so until then
you'll have to pull them out of CVS and temporarily build your own driver.
The MF-4270 is really a multifunction scanner/copier/printer/fax
machine. AFAIK, there is no support for the printer part of it, in CUPS,
but I don't need the printer+fax functionality. It works fine for me as
a scanner+copier. Supports both the flatbed and the document feeder, for
scanning.
The actual printer _device_ driver for CUPS is often gutenprint[1].
I have seen a far amount of traffic on the gutenprint list[2] where some folks
are trying to support some of the cannon equipment. And as you don't seem to
be adverse to working out of a dev repository, perhaps you might want to take
a look and see if your multifunction device is already supported or if you
could give them the few needed pointers to get it supported.
[1] http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/
[2] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel
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Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
7:50 p.m.
Dave Feustel wrote, On 11/06/2008 11:50 AM:
I am the OP for this thread. I am looking for a high resolution
document
scanner only, (no printer, no copier (I have a laser printer already)
functions) with a usb or scsi interface. Years ago I had an HP C2
scanner which worked very well but it was big and slow. Plus I only had
windows drivers for it.
Sorry for kind of hijacking your thread.
To kind of get back on subject, I think for most of us you would need to
define what you mean by:
"high resolution document scanner".
The reason you need to define it is that for me, scanning text (~8-12 point
Helvetica|Arial|TimesNewRoman|Palatino) anything at or over 150DPI is going
to be considered "high resolution", which almost every scanner today can do.
If on the other hand you were scanning the dead sea scrolls (granted scanning
with the light sources that scanners today use would probably destroy them),
no one would be happy if you did not scan at > 3600DPI.
What kind of resolution did the C2 have?
The best luck I have had with picking out scanners is, go to
http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl
pick a bus you like
http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=&model=&bus=us...
and look at the "Status" column and find manufacturers that seem to have a
large percentage of their products that are listed as "complete" and
"good".
These manufactures have been either feeding the developers data on how to talk
to their devices, or have been keeping a reasonably stable interface to the
device, so even if none of the listed devices are currently available for new
purchase they have a reasonable _likelihood_ of working especially if the new
device is in the same "family".
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Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
8:06 p.m.
New subject: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
Sam Varshavchik wrote, On 11/06/2008 06:29 PM:
Todd Denniston writes:
<SNIP>
> The actual printer _device_ driver for CUPS is often
gutenprint[1].
I already have gutenprint installed. I'm not sure how gutenprint is
supposed to interface with CUPS, but when I try to select the printer,
this Canon model is not listed.
Often times the driver is supported by a similar models driver so you could
either pick one that seems similar and try it, or you could ask on the list
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel
<SNIP>
Well, I still don't see this Canon model listed as supported in the
documentation in the latest, a fairly recent, release.
Although you are correct in
that gutenprint does not seem to support the
device... <go rummaging for Linux printer information> ...
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
indicates:
http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-MF4270
there is a binary driver for it on one of canon's websites
Sorry to confuse you, by trying to lead you towards getting an Open Source
driver going.
The only reason I could hack sane is because its supported for the
scanner was already there, it just had some bugs. A complete absence of
support for the entire printer is quite a different beast.
again, printer families
often use the same or similar control protocol, and a
similar driver might at least 'work' but not give nice results, and knowing
that would help the devs know what they would need to change. however for this
device there is a working (closed source) solution from the manufacturer, at
least until Fedora upgrades to a point where it can't find a old library.
It is too bad so few folks know about the nice databases that have been put
together for devices that work with Unix:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/DatabaseIntro
http://www.openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html
http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl
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Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
10:15 a.m.
New subject: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
Jeff Maxwell wrote, On 11/07/2008 10:51 AM:
This is great information. I do not know if my question fits this
thread or not, but,
It would probably be best to start another thread, with a fully
new (not reply
to this one) message.
I have an issue where I have been able to install
and access an HP parallel OfficeJet printer via the "root" sign on but I
am not able to access the printer via a local user sign on. Any
suggestions would be much appreciated.
take a look in /var/log/cups/ at page_log, error_log and access_log and see if
there is something that make sense there, before starting your new thread.
If there is no info there, then you may have to (backup first and) edit
/etc/cups/cupsd.conf to set LogLevel to debug instead of info, then `service
restart cups`. (hopefully a restorecon /etc/cups/cupsd.conf will not be needed)
try a few prints and check the logs again.
--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
9:51 a.m.
New subject: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 21:06 -0500, Todd Denniston wrote:
Sam Varshavchik wrote, On 11/06/2008 06:29 PM:
> Todd Denniston writes:
<SNIP>
>> The actual printer _device_ driver for CUPS is often gutenprint[1].
>
> I already have gutenprint installed. I'm not sure how gutenprint is
> supposed to interface with CUPS, but when I try to select the printer,
> this Canon model is not listed.
>
Often times the driver is supported by a similar models driver so you could
either pick one that seems similar and try it, or you could ask on the list
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel
<SNIP>
>
> Well, I still don't see this Canon model listed as supported in the
> documentation in the latest, a fairly recent, release.
Although you are correct in that gutenprint does not seem to support the
device... <go rummaging for Linux printer information> ...
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
indicates:
http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-MF4270
there is a binary driver for it on one of canon's websites
Sorry to confuse you, by trying to lead you towards getting an Open Source
driver going.
>
> The only reason I could hack sane is because its supported for the
> scanner was already there, it just had some bugs. A complete absence of
> support for the entire printer is quite a different beast.
again, printer families often use the same or similar control protocol, and a
similar driver might at least 'work' but not give nice results, and knowing
that would help the devs know what they would need to change. however for this
device there is a working (closed source) solution from the manufacturer, at
least until Fedora upgrades to a point where it can't find a old library.
It is too bad so few folks know about the nice databases that have been put
together for devices that work with Unix:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/DatabaseIntro
http://www.openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html
http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl
This is great information. I do not know if my question fits this
thread or not, but, I have an issue where I have been able to install
and access an HP parallel OfficeJet printer via the "root" sign on but I
am not able to access the printer via a local user sign on. Any
suggestions would be much appreciated.
thanks.
--
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Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
9:32 a.m.
New subject: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
Jeff Maxwell wrote, On 11/26/2008 04:14 PM:
Ok. I can understand the reasoning for that. But, why would I only
have access to the printer/scanner when signed on as root and not as a
local user? This is the problem that I am running into. Every time I
wish to use the scanner, I need to switch users to root.
Jeff,
try Tim Waugh's suggestion (I think he is taking you through the gnome menue
to the troubleshooter):
"System->Administration->Printing, then Help->Troubleshoot. It automates
log capture and can even diagnose some simple problems. If it fails to
identify the problem, you can see the diagnostic output including the
relevant portions of the log files. If the diagnostic output is too
cryptic to understand but you think there is a bug in the software, file
a bug report about your problem and attach the troubleshoot.txt file."
If the menus don't get you the application, I think you could run
system-config-printer in a terminal, and then select Help->Troubleshoot to get
where Tim was pointing.
However I am expecting you to need to look at /var/log/cups/ files access_log
& error_log to figure this out, ... because it WORKS as ROOT but not as
NONROOT users. But do try the Troubleshoot first, as it might just cover this
case, and if it does not then file the bug Tim mentioned and file another one
against the system-config-printer Help->Troubleshoot to cover your case (so
future folks might figure it out easier.
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Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
4:01 p.m.
New subject: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 16:14 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 09:13 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 21:32 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 12:41 +1030, Tim wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 20:56 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I did find the following in the cupsd.conf and I am wondering if the
> > > > SystemGroup is causing my problem as I appear to be able to access
my
> > > > printer/scanner when logged in as "root" but not as a local
user.
> > > >
> > > > MaxLogSize 0
> > > > LogLevel info
> > > > SystemGroup sys root
> > >
> > > I should hope not. That allows you to define who's a system user
who's
> > > allowed to configure things. Compared to the rest of the users
who're
> > > just allowed to use them.
> > Well I am very confused. I decided to delete all printer definitions
> > and start from scratch using the cups web administration process to add
> > a printer. Once added, I went to the HP Device Manager and it had an
> > icon for the printer but said that it could not be connected. I then
> > switched users to "root" and using the HP device Manager it showed
the
> > printer connected with icons for options to scan, print or fax. One
> > thing that I did find peculiar is that it asked for a user id/password
> > when adding the printer. I tried to use my local user id/password but
> > it would not accept it. It seemed to be in a loop and kept popping up
> > asking for user id /password. I finally entered root and password which
> > it accepted.
> >
> It is standard to need to login with root and root passwd to be able to
> add a printer.
Ok. I can understand the reasoning for that. But, why would I only
have access to the printer/scanner when signed on as root and not as a
local user? This is the problem that I am running into. Every time I
wish to use the scanner, I need to switch users to root.
Well I would guess it is
an incorrectly configured /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
file. If you search that file you will find there are number of clauses
that set policies and restrictions on users. So I would:
1. Look at the documentation for this file accessible through the cups
interface.
2. Search the file for the word root and user.
root should appear only once in the SystemmGroup line.
user appears in the various policies and restriction clauses.. These
must be checked to change your restricted situation.
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3:14 p.m.
New subject: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 09:13 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 21:32 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 12:41 +1030, Tim wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 20:56 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
> > >
> > > I did find the following in the cupsd.conf and I am wondering if the
> > > SystemGroup is causing my problem as I appear to be able to access my
> > > printer/scanner when logged in as "root" but not as a local
user.
> > >
> > > MaxLogSize 0
> > > LogLevel info
> > > SystemGroup sys root
> >
> > I should hope not. That allows you to define who's a system user
who's
> > allowed to configure things. Compared to the rest of the users who're
> > just allowed to use them.
> Well I am very confused. I decided to delete all printer definitions
> and start from scratch using the cups web administration process to add
> a printer. Once added, I went to the HP Device Manager and it had an
> icon for the printer but said that it could not be connected. I then
> switched users to "root" and using the HP device Manager it showed the
> printer connected with icons for options to scan, print or fax. One
> thing that I did find peculiar is that it asked for a user id/password
> when adding the printer. I tried to use my local user id/password but
> it would not accept it. It seemed to be in a loop and kept popping up
> asking for user id /password. I finally entered root and password which
> it accepted.
>
It is standard to need to login with root and root passwd to be able to
add a printer.
Ok. I can understand the reasoning for that. But, why would I
only
have access to the printer/scanner when signed on as root and not as a
local user? This is the problem that I am running into. Every time I
wish to use the scanner, I need to switch users to root.
> >
> > --
> > [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
> > 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686
> >
> > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I
> > read messages from the public lists.
> >
> >
> >
>
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9:13 a.m.
New subject: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 21:32 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 12:41 +1030, Tim wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 20:56 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
> >
> > I did find the following in the cupsd.conf and I am wondering if the
> > SystemGroup is causing my problem as I appear to be able to access my
> > printer/scanner when logged in as "root" but not as a local user.
> >
> > MaxLogSize 0
> > LogLevel info
> > SystemGroup sys root
>
> I should hope not. That allows you to define who's a system user who's
> allowed to configure things. Compared to the rest of the users who're
> just allowed to use them.
Well I am very confused. I decided to delete all printer definitions
and start from scratch using the cups web administration process to add
a printer. Once added, I went to the HP Device Manager and it had an
icon for the printer but said that it could not be connected. I then
switched users to "root" and using the HP device Manager it showed the
printer connected with icons for options to scan, print or fax. One
thing that I did find peculiar is that it asked for a user id/password
when adding the printer. I tried to use my local user id/password but
it would not accept it. It seemed to be in a loop and kept popping up
asking for user id /password. I finally entered root and password which
it accepted.
It is standard to need to login with root and root passwd to be able to
add a printer.
>
> --
> [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686
>
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I
> read messages from the public lists.
>
>
>
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=======================================================================
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8:32 p.m.
New subject: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 12:41 +1030, Tim wrote:
On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 20:56 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
>
> I did find the following in the cupsd.conf and I am wondering if the
> SystemGroup is causing my problem as I appear to be able to access my
> printer/scanner when logged in as "root" but not as a local user.
>
> MaxLogSize 0
> LogLevel info
> SystemGroup sys root
I should hope not. That allows you to define who's a system user who's
allowed to configure things. Compared to the rest of the users who're
just allowed to use them.
Well I am very confused. I decided to delete all printer
definitions
and start from scratch using the cups web administration process to add
a printer. Once added, I went to the HP Device Manager and it had an
icon for the printer but said that it could not be connected. I then
switched users to "root" and using the HP device Manager it showed the
printer connected with icons for options to scan, print or fax. One
thing that I did find peculiar is that it asked for a user id/password
when adding the printer. I tried to use my local user id/password but
it would not accept it. It seemed to be in a loop and kept popping up
asking for user id /password. I finally entered root and password which
it accepted.
--
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686
Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I
read messages from the public lists.
8:11 p.m.
New subject: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 20:56 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
I did find the following in the cupsd.conf and I am wondering if the
SystemGroup is causing my problem as I appear to be able to access my
printer/scanner when logged in as "root" but not as a local user.
MaxLogSize 0
LogLevel info
SystemGroup sys root
I should hope not. That allows you to define who's a system user who's
allowed to configure things. Compared to the rest of the users who're
just allowed to use them.
--
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686
Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I
read messages from the public lists.
7:56 p.m.
New subject: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 11:15 -0500, Todd Denniston wrote:
Jeff Maxwell wrote, On 11/07/2008 10:51 AM:
> This is great information. I do not know if my question fits this
> thread or not, but,
It would probably be best to start another thread, with a fully new (not reply
to this one) message.
> I have an issue where I have been able to install
> and access an HP parallel OfficeJet printer via the "root" sign on but I
> am not able to access the printer via a local user sign on. Any
> suggestions would be much appreciated.
take a look in /var/log/cups/ at page_log, error_log and access_log and see if
there is something that make sense there, before starting your new thread.
If there is no info there, then you may have to (backup first and) edit
/etc/cups/cupsd.conf to set LogLevel to debug instead of info, then `service
restart cups`. (hopefully a restorecon /etc/cups/cupsd.conf will not be needed)
try a few prints and check the logs again.
Thanks for the advice. I've been
busy with other issues and finally
found time to look further into this.
I did find the following in the cupsd.conf and I am wondering if the
SystemGroup is causing my problem as I appear to be able to access my
printer/scanner when logged in as "root" but not as a local user.
MaxLogSize 0
LogLevel info
SystemGroup sys root
Thoughts?
--
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
12:15 p.m.
Bill Davidsen wrote, On 11/15/2008 09:35 PM:
Dave Feustel wrote:
> I'm looking for a document scanner that works well with F9.
> Any suggestion?
>
> Thanks.
>
Epson CX7400 printer and scanner work with FC6, using the driver from
the vendor. As of FC8 or early FC9 the driver wasn't updated. Since I
can keep FC6 running safely behind a firewall, as a device controller, I
can live with that, although I would like to upgrade o/s at some point.
http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_CX7400
http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=epson&model=cx7400...
looks like you need:
gutenprint 5.something
sane epkowa 2.12.0
not sure which versions are in F10 but it looks like at least the printing
functions may be supported in F9, and I have never investigated how hard it is
to use an updated sane back-end with fedora.
BTW there are nice databases that have been put together for devices that work
with Unix:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/DatabaseIntro
http://www.openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html
http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl
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Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
8:35 p.m.
Dave Feustel wrote:
I'm looking for a document scanner that works well with F9.
Any suggestion?
Thanks.
Epson CX7400 printer and scanner work with FC6, using the driver from the
vendor. As of FC8 or early FC9 the driver wasn't updated. Since I can keep FC6
running safely behind a firewall, as a device controller, I can live with that,
although I would like to upgrade o/s at some point.
--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen(a)tmr.com>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
1:14 p.m.
New subject: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 15:23 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 10:51 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
> >
> This is great information. I do not know if my question fits this
> thread or not, but, I have an issue where I have been able to install
> and access an HP parallel OfficeJet printer via the "root" sign on but
> I
> am not able to access the printer via a local user sign on. Any
> suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> thanks.
> > --
When you go to web address: localhost:631 as a normal user do you see
any Printers under the Printers tab? I assume you see them as root when
you go to the same address.
--
When I go to Administration/printing, I have 2 printers listed under
Local Printers.
They are: OfficeJet-Series-600 and OfficeJet_600.
OfficeJet-Series-600 has listed under the Settings Tab/Device URI:
parallel:/dev/lp0
The other has hp:/par/OfficeJet_Series_600?device=/dev/parport0
Thanks.
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3:23 p.m.
New subject: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 10:51 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
>
This is great information. I do not know if my question fits this
thread or not, but, I have an issue where I have been able to install
and access an HP parallel OfficeJet printer via the "root" sign on but
I
am not able to access the printer via a local user sign on. Any
suggestions would be much appreciated.
thanks.
> --
When you go to web address: localhost:631 as a normal user do you see
any Printers under the Printers tab? I assume you see them as root when
you go to the same address.
--
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Perfect day for scrubbing the floor and other exciting things.
=======================================================================
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11:51 a.m.
Dave Feustel wrote:
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 09:13:16AM -0500, Todd Denniston wrote:
> Sam Varshavchik wrote, On 11/05/2008 06:35 PM:
>
> [1] http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/
>
> [2] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel
I am the OP for this thread. I am looking for a high resolution document
scanner only, (no printer, no copier (I have a laser printer already)
functions) with a usb or scsi interface. Years ago I had an HP C2
scanner which worked very well but it was big and slow. Plus I only had
windows drivers for it.
We have an Epson V750 scanner that has been used on Ubuntu. It is nice
for print, pictures and transparencies.
There is a driver that can be downloaded from the net.
--
Robin Laing
10:19 a.m.
New subject: Supporting printer portion of MF-4270, was:[Re: Document Scanners that work with F9]
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 11:15 -0500, Todd Denniston wrote:
take a look in /var/log/cups/ at page_log, error_log and access_log
and see if
there is something that make sense there, before starting your new thread.
If there is no info there, then you may have to (backup first and) edit
/etc/cups/cupsd.conf to set LogLevel to debug instead of info, then `service
restart cups`. (hopefully a restorecon /etc/cups/cupsd.conf will not be needed)
try a few prints and check the logs again.
It would be much easier to just run the printing troubleshooter,
System->Administration->Printing, then Help->Troubleshoot. It automates
log capture and can even diagnose some simple problems. If it fails to
identify the problem, you can see the diagnostic output including the
relevant portions of the log files. If the diagnostic output is too
cryptic to understand but you think there is a bug in the software, file
a bug report about your problem and attach the troubleshoot.txt file.
Tim.
*/
5:29 p.m.
Todd Denniston writes:
Sam Varshavchik wrote, On 11/05/2008 06:35 PM:
> I, personally, use the Cannon MF-4270. I had to hack some bugs out of
> sane's pixma driver, but once I did that, it worked fine. The fixes went
> upstream, they should be in the next version of sane, so until then
> you'll have to pull them out of CVS and temporarily build your own driver.
>
> The MF-4270 is really a multifunction scanner/copier/printer/fax
> machine. AFAIK, there is no support for the printer part of it, in CUPS,
> but I don't need the printer+fax functionality. It works fine for me as
> a scanner+copier. Supports both the flatbed and the document feeder, for
> scanning.
>
The actual printer _device_ driver for CUPS is often gutenprint[1].
I already have gutenprint installed. I'm not sure how gutenprint is supposed
to interface with CUPS, but when I try to select the printer, this Canon
model is not listed.
I have seen a far amount of traffic on the gutenprint list[2] where
some folks
are trying to support some of the cannon equipment. And as you don't seem to
be adverse to working out of a dev repository, perhaps you might want to take
a look and see if your multifunction device is already supported or if you
could give them the few needed pointers to get it supported.
Well, I still don't see this Canon model listed as supported in the
documentation in the latest, a fairly recent, release.
The only reason I could hack sane is because its supported for the scanner
was already there, it just had some bugs. A complete absence of support for
the entire printer is quite a different beast.
10:50 a.m.
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 09:13:16AM -0500, Todd Denniston wrote:
Sam Varshavchik wrote, On 11/05/2008 06:35 PM:
> I, personally, use the Cannon MF-4270. I had to hack some bugs out of
> sane's pixma driver, but once I did that, it worked fine. The fixes
> went upstream, they should be in the next version of sane, so until
> then you'll have to pull them out of CVS and temporarily build your own
> driver.
>
> The MF-4270 is really a multifunction scanner/copier/printer/fax
> machine. AFAIK, there is no support for the printer part of it, in
> CUPS, but I don't need the printer+fax functionality. It works fine for
> me as a scanner+copier. Supports both the flatbed and the document
> feeder, for scanning.
>
The actual printer _device_ driver for CUPS is often gutenprint[1].
I have seen a far amount of traffic on the gutenprint list[2] where some
folks are trying to support some of the cannon equipment. And as you
don't seem to be adverse to working out of a dev repository, perhaps you
might want to take a look and see if your multifunction device is already
supported or if you could give them the few needed pointers to get it
supported.
[1] http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/
[2] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel
I am the OP for this thread. I am looking for a high resolution document
scanner only, (no printer, no copier (I have a laser printer already)
functions) with a usb or scsi interface. Years ago I had an HP C2
scanner which worked very well but it was big and slow. Plus I only had
windows drivers for it.
7:50 p.m.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Dave Feustel <dfeustel(a)mindspring.com>wrote:
I'm looking for a document scanner that works well with F9.
Any suggestion?
Thanks.
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One detail you left out of you question... What kind of scan quality are you
looking for? If a multi-function printer/scanner/copier is good enough,
check out hplip[1] and see which printers have scanner functionality
working. I ran across the Photosmart C5580 when can be had for $99 at
www.newegg.com[2] and most of the functions work line printing, scanning,
even the flash card reader (however, no PC initiated fax, copy, or color
calibration).
[1]
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/photosmart/photosmart_c5500_s...
[2]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828115252&Tpk=c...
Richard
7:22 p.m.
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:36:30 -0500
Tom Horsley <tom.horsley(a)att.net> wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:35:02 -0500
Sam Varshavchik <mrsam(a)courier-mta.com> wrote:
> www.sane-project.org has a convenient list of compatible scanners.
Virtually all of which are for hardware that is no longer made,
but you might find on e-bay :-(.
I keep looking for a scanner that goes on the network and will
deposit scanned documents directly in a network share so it
can be totally OS independent, but I haven't found any such
beast.
Dell 3115cn is a scanner, printer, copier which speaks SMB and can also
email you documents. It also does fax but that only works remotely in
windows, while the rest works fine in Linux including the management web
interface.
7:03 p.m.
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 06:35:02PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Dave Feustel writes:
> I'm looking for a document scanner that works well with F9.
> Any suggestion?
www.sane-project.org has a convenient list of compatible scanners.
I, personally, use the Cannon MF-4270. I had to hack some bugs out of
sane's pixma driver, but once I did that, it worked fine. The fixes went
upstream, they should be in the next version of sane, so until then
you'll have to pull them out of CVS and temporarily build your own
driver.
The MF-4270 is really a multifunction scanner/copier/printer/fax machine.
AFAIK, there is no support for the printer part of it, in CUPS, but I
don't need the printer+fax functionality. It works fine for me as a
scanner+copier. Supports both the flatbed and the document feeder, for
scanning.
Thanks for the link! What kind of SCSI adaptor is needed for these
scanners? Is OCR any good with them yet?
6:36 p.m.
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:35:02 -0500
Sam Varshavchik <mrsam(a)courier-mta.com> wrote:
www.sane-project.org has a convenient list of compatible scanners.
Virtually all of which are for hardware that is no longer made,
but you might find on e-bay :-(.
I keep looking for a scanner that goes on the network and will
deposit scanned documents directly in a network share so it
can be totally OS independent, but I haven't found any such
beast.
The commercial (but reasonably priced) vuescan software
(from http://www.hamrick.com/) supports a much wider variety
of actually available hardware, but only operates as a GUI,
and I really like the ability to script things with the
sane command line tools, so I haven't actually tried vuescan
(but may someday get desperate enough to use the X11 XTEST
extension to turn the vuescan GUI into a command line tool :-).
5:35 p.m.
Dave Feustel writes:
I'm looking for a document scanner that works well with F9.
Any suggestion?
www.sane-project.org has a convenient list of compatible scanners.
I, personally, use the Cannon MF-4270. I had to hack some bugs out of sane's
pixma driver, but once I did that, it worked fine. The fixes went upstream,
they should be in the next version of sane, so until then you'll have to
pull them out of CVS and temporarily build your own driver.
The MF-4270 is really a multifunction scanner/copier/printer/fax machine.
AFAIK, there is no support for the printer part of it, in CUPS, but I don't
need the printer+fax functionality. It works fine for me as a
scanner+copier. Supports both the flatbed and the document feeder, for
scanning.
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