4:28 p.m.
Which piece of software you believe that every new Fedora user should
be aware of that isn’t installed by default on Fedora Live CD?
Why do you think that this package should be installed by default?
Make your claim strong enough and I’ll include it by default in new
Fusion Linux 14 Fedora Remix.
http://fusionlinux.org/
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9:12 p.m.
On 10/11/2010 02:28 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote:
Which piece of software you believe that every new Fedora user
should
be aware of that isn’t installed by default on Fedora Live CD?
Why do you think that this package should be installed by default?
Make your claim strong enough and I’ll include it by default in new
Fusion Linux 14 Fedora Remix.
http://fusionlinux.org/
These packages are not even part of fedora, but are very nice
to have:
dvdauthor
qdvdauthor (the gui interface)
Both are projects on sourceforge.net
I think growisofs is already part of fedora, but not sure if it is
automatically included in the live image.
These are very well working utils for creating DVD's
3:32 p.m.
2010/10/19 Manuel Escudero <Jmlevick(a)gmail.com>
2010/10/16 stan <gryt2(a)q.com>
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:48:28 +0200
> Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Audio and video codecs including flash are preinstalled. We are going
> > the path of Linux Mint to make user experience best as possible right
> > out of the box, and for not that means also including few non-open
> > components. As soon as they become redundant we will drop them for
> > open source ones. But unfortunately for now there must be few
> > proprietary pieces in order to make linux destop usable for non geeks
> > and non developers ie. regular users.
> >
> >
> I did a search a few years ago, and I think the patents on mpeg
> start to expire next year and continue to expire in dribs and drabs
> over the next few years. I suspect that is part of the reason for the
> new proprietary video standard being proposed for html5. ;-)
>
> So you should be home free in a couple of years.
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I'm going to give my two cents to this project of Fusion Linux:
MANDATORY PACKAGES FOR EVERY NEW LINUX USER:
- audacious
- cheese
- kmess
- pidgin
- gimp
- gparted
- kscd
- sound-juicer
- xchat
- kget
- kdenlive
- k3b
- banshee
- xsane
- vlc
Hope you can add this list to your remix :D Good Luck!!
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3:29 p.m.
2010/10/16 stan <gryt2(a)q.com>
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:48:28 +0200
Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Audio and video codecs including flash are preinstalled. We are going
> the path of Linux Mint to make user experience best as possible right
> out of the box, and for not that means also including few non-open
> components. As soon as they become redundant we will drop them for
> open source ones. But unfortunately for now there must be few
> proprietary pieces in order to make linux destop usable for non geeks
> and non developers ie. regular users.
>
>
I did a search a few years ago, and I think the patents on mpeg
start to expire next year and continue to expire in dribs and drabs
over the next few years. I suspect that is part of the reason for the
new proprietary video standard being proposed for html5. ;-)
So you should be home free in a couple of years.
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I'm going to give my two cents to this project of Fusion Linux:
MANDATORY PACKAGES FOR EVERY NEW LINUX USER:
- audacious
- cheese
- kmess
- pidgin
- gimp
- gparted
- kscd
- sound-juicer
- xchat
- kget
- kdenlive
- k3b
- banshee
- xsane
- vlc
Hope you can add this list to your remix :D Good Luck!!
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4:12 p.m.
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:48:28 +0200
Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Audio and video codecs including flash are preinstalled. We are
going
the path of Linux Mint to make user experience best as possible right
out of the box, and for not that means also including few non-open
components. As soon as they become redundant we will drop them for
open source ones. But unfortunately for now there must be few
proprietary pieces in order to make linux destop usable for non geeks
and non developers ie. regular users.
I did a search a few years ago, and I think the patents on mpeg
start to expire next year and continue to expire in dribs and drabs
over the next few years. I suspect that is part of the reason for the
new proprietary video standard being proposed for html5. ;-)
So you should be home free in a couple of years.
11:48 a.m.
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:37 PM, JD <jd1008(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/13/2010 11:19 AM, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 19:43 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>> All three are already added, but feel free to suggest some new great
>> tools and apps that you feel are missing.
> Depending on your target audience, what about geany?
Do not forget ffmpeg and various audio codecs and libs, and win32 codecs.
Also, flash plugin. Important for viewing flash web content.
Audio and video codecs including flash are preinstalled. We are going
the path of Linux Mint to make user experience best as possible right
out of the box, and for not that means also including few non-open
components. As soon as they become redundant we will drop them for
open source ones. But unfortunately for now there must be few
proprietary pieces in order to make linux destop usable for non geeks
and non developers ie. regular users.
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11:43 a.m.
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Frank Cox <theatre(a)sasktel.net> wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 19:43 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>
> All three are already added, but feel free to suggest some new great
> tools and apps that you feel are missing.
Depending on your target audience, what about geany?
Tried geany but seams too advanced for my target audience, but an
excellent app that I'll keep installed for myself, thank you for your
suggestion.
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9:35 p.m.
On 10/13/10 11:37 AM, JD wrote:
On 10/13/2010 11:19 AM, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 19:43 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>> All three are already added, but feel free to suggest some new great
>> tools and apps that you feel are missing.
> Depending on your target audience, what about geany?
Do not forget ffmpeg and various audio codecs and libs, and win32 codecs.
Also, flash plugin. Important for viewing flash web content.
JD:
There might be two issues that prevent this:
1. Licensing type conflicts.
2. Patents.
Both are ugly and a real pain, but they are there.
(BTW, this is why Wine does not ship with libmpg123 nor do most Linux
distributions.)
However, I like the idea of including this type of 'stuff' as long as
the list does not get way too long (filling a DVD by itself could be
very easy.)
James McKenzie
4:08 p.m.
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 20:25:37 +0100,
mike cloaked <mike.cloaked(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Suvayu Ali
<fatkasuvayu+linux(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> As far as I am aware of, persistent storage pertains to user data only
> but I could be wrong here.
>
If so that is a shame - it would be useful to be able to add packages
to the liveUSB....and have them stick.
If you add an overlay partition (similar to how you add a persistent home
partition), you can install updates and new software and have it persist.
You don't recover the space from the initial live image, so you probably
want to get a fresh live image after enough time. But you can also do
that without overwriting your persistent home partition.
1:37 p.m.
On 10/13/2010 11:19 AM, Frank Cox wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 19:43 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> All three are already added, but feel free to suggest some new great
> tools and apps that you feel are missing.
Depending on your target audience, what about geany?
Do not forget ffmpeg and
various audio codecs and libs, and win32 codecs.
Also, flash plugin. Important for viewing flash web content.
1:19 p.m.
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 19:43 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
All three are already added, but feel free to suggest some new great
tools and apps that you feel are missing.
Depending on your target audience, what about geany?
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12:43 p.m.
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Hiisi <very-cool(a)rambler.ru> wrote:
2010/10/12 Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com>:
> As per request new apps are:
> K3b
> Thunderbird
> gparted
In this list I'm for gparted. It's useful and will probably lead you
to wider audience because many people need it.
All three are already added, but feel free to suggest some new great
tools and apps that you feel are missing.
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12:42 p.m.
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 05:19 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
> but also presumably if running from a
> usbkey with persistent storage then the installed package would still
> be available at the next boot?
As far as I am aware of, persistent storage pertains to user data only
but I could be wrong here.
You are wrong ;)
yum install and yum update work and keep new packages, only thing you
can't do is to update to newer kernel version.
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3:10 p.m.
2010/10/12 Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com>:
As per request new apps are:
K3b
Thunderbird
gparted
In this list I'm for gparted. It's useful and will probably lead you
to wider audience because many people need it.
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2:25 p.m.
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux(a)gmail.com> wrote:
As far as I am aware of, persistent storage pertains to user data
only
but I could be wrong here.
If so that is a shame - it would be useful to be able to add packages
to the liveUSB....and have them stick.
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11:50 a.m.
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 05:19 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
but also presumably if running from a
usbkey with persistent storage then the installed package would still
be available at the next boot?
As far as I am aware of, persistent storage pertains to user data only
but I could be wrong here.
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7:19 a.m.
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Valent Turkovic
<valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com> wrote:
As per request new apps are:
K3b
Thunderbird
gparted
I presume that it is still possible when running a live distro to yum
install a package - if running from a CD then it will disappear again
when the system shuts down, but also presumably if running from a
usbkey with persistent storage then the installed package would still
be available at the next boot?
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11:57 p.m.
2010/10/25 James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51(a)earthlink.net>
On 10/19/10 1:29 PM, Manuel Escudero wrote:
> I'm going to give my two cents to this project of Fusion Linux:
>
This is not Fusion Linux. However, this IS Fedora and what is being
asked is what packages should be available for Fedora...
> MANDATORY PACKAGES FOR EVERY NEW LINUX USER:
>
> - audacious
>
> - cheese
>
> - kmess
>
What if I like Gnome and despise KDE?
You have a mixture of Gnome and KDE interfaces. Please pick one....
James McKenzie
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Oh! I tought this mail was intended to ask the users wich packages they
would
like to have in fedora by default in order to make the fussion linux spin
more
complete...
Sorry for that, About the mixing, I'm a KDE user, but we need Both GTK and
QT Programs..
By example, there's no better MSN Client that Kmess and theres no better
Partition Manager
than Gparted :)
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10:48 p.m.
On 10/19/10 1:29 PM, Manuel Escudero wrote:
I'm going to give my two cents to this project of Fusion Linux:
This is not Fusion Linux. However, this IS Fedora and what is being
asked is what packages should be available for Fedora...
MANDATORY PACKAGES FOR EVERY NEW LINUX USER:
- audacious
- cheese
- kmess
What if I like Gnome and despise KDE?
You have a mixture of Gnome and KDE interfaces. Please pick one....
James McKenzie
6:20 a.m.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
<pocallaghan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/19/10 4:02 PM, Manuel Escudero wrote:
> Oh! and I forgot: Skype and Firefox :)
Skype is proprietary. Isn't FF already there?
Skype will be installed and Firefox 4.0 beta will be installed but
Chromium will be default browser.
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