On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:57:04 +0800 Richmond Pabilona <rpabilonia(a)cyberjresources.com&gt; wrote: OT, and not really an answer to your question, but this is important (a former employer of mine learned the hard way): some versions of VSS (maybe all?) don't check disk space before committing, and don't behave gracefully when it runs out. the VSS archives, which are a proprietary binary format, get corrupted and you end up having to reconstruct your source code from the fragments scattered about the developers systems or from backup tapes. i won't tell you not to use it, but you want competent adminstrators watching the VSS box if you are using it. my former employer didn't, and as such had no current backups. the consequences were quite painful, to say the least. richard -- Richard Welty rwelty(a)averillpark.net Averill Park Networking 518-573-7592 Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 08:18:58 -0800 lwj <wayne(a)zkcelltest.com&gt; wrote: this would have been in the summer of 2000. i don't recall the version, but the M$ line was that checking disk space slowed the product down too much (putting the "safe" part of Visual Source Safe very much in question.) i'm still not clear on why VSS was even being used, given that the embedded OS in the hardware was FreeBSD-derived, the management app was in Java, and Visual Cafe was the Java IDE of choice, but then i became an employee of the firm as a side effect of M&A activity, and the CF was already in progress when i came on board. lucky you. my employer of the time had just fired their outsourced IT firm and hired a couple of real admins to straighten things out. they hadn't quite gotten to the VSS server yet... richard -- Richard Welty rwelty(a)averillpark.net Averill Park Networking 518-573-7592 Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security

On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 00:57, Richmond Pabilona wrote: You should see if you can convert that MS Source"safe" junk to CVS or Subversion. I got the company I work for to switch a lot of development to CVS. CVS will work in just about any IDE, where MS Visual Sourcesafe will not. You could also try wine. Here is a little HOW-TO on running vss under Wine. http://www.kegel.com/linux/vss-howto.html This setup seems a little comlicated, I would try to install it under Wine standalone. Jim Drabb -- --------------------------------------------------------- The box said: "Requires Windows 98/2000/NT/XP or better." So, I installed LINUX! --------------------------------------------------------- James Drabb JR Senior Programmer Analyst Davenport, FL USA