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John M. Harris Jr

Monday, 21 October 2019 Mon, 21 Oct '19

4:06 a.m.

I installed `fish` with `dnf install fish`, but somehow I ended up getting a module? Anyone know what's going on there? -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity

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Ed Greshko

Monday, 21 October Mon, 21 Oct

4:20 a.m.

On 10/21/19 5:06 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

I installed `fish` with `dnf install fish`, but somehow I ended up getting a module? Anyone know what's going on there?

Explained here https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/ -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions.

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John M. Harris Jr

5:05 a.m.

On Monday, October 21, 2019 2:20:37 AM MST Ed Greshko wrote:

On 10/21/19 5:06 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > I installed `fish` with `dnf install fish`, but somehow I ended up getting > a module? Anyone know what's going on there? > > Explained here https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/

I know what Modularity is, but why in the world was I given a module? I didn't specify that I wanted to install a module. I wanted a normal package. Is there a way to fix that, and get a regular package? Am I now stuck on this version of the module forever? -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity

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Ed Greshko

5:40 a.m.

On 10/21/19 6:05 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

On Monday, October 21, 2019 2:20:37 AM MST Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/21/19 5:06 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > >> I installed `fish` with `dnf install fish`, but somehow I ended up getting >> a module? Anyone know what's going on there? >> >> > > Explained here https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/ I know what Modularity is, but why in the world was I given a module? I didn't specify that I wanted to install a module. I wanted a normal package. Is there a way to fix that, and get a regular package? Am I now stuck on this version of the module forever?

If you desire the fish package from the standard fedora repos you should be able to do the following 1. dnf erase fish 2. dnf module disable fish 3. dnf install fish I don't know the reason the packager decided to have fish be installed as a module by default -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions.

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Matthew Miller

Wednesday, 23 October Wed, 23 Oct

12:47 p.m.

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 03:05:58AM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

I know what Modularity is, but why in the world was I given a module? I didn't specify that I wanted to install a module. I wanted a normal package. Is there

This was a request from RH product management for RHEL — they wanted users who are accustomed to just doing "yum install foo" to get "foo" even if behind the scenes the package is provided by a module. Whether we need this behavior in Fedora is an open question, but it also could theoretically provide some benefits to Fedora packagers, so some people are using it.

a way to fix that, and get a regular package? Am I now stuck on this version of the module forever?

No; with the default modules like this, you shouldn't be pinned on a specific version. In fact, there should be no particular reason to care that this package happens to be provided by a module. That's the whole point of the default-streams idea. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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