11:37 p.m.
Well, I'm having a problem trying to enable the new UI of LibreOffice
4.1, all this in F19+KDE; but for some reason I can't see it in any
menuItem or any other menu or option; is this because of KDE or is
there a dependency I haven't resolve?
-Isaac C.
11:15 p.m.
On Tuesday 30 July 2013 07.05.26 Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/30/13 06:52, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 07:33:39AM +0200, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
>> What is it supposed to look like?
>
> It is not a new UI. You can add a sidebar, taken from IBM Symphony. It
> is not working perfectly so it is still under experimental.
Oh, that explains why I didn't find it any new =)
> For me I can
> enable it under Tools→Options→Advanced.
I'll give it a look then. But ... wasn't that in the original StarOffice, or am
i confuddled again?
/Martin S
11:24 p.m.
HI
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Martin Skjöldebrand
I'll give it a look then. But ... wasn't that in the original StarOffice,
or am
i confuddled again?
Something vaguely similar was in StarOffice. The current implementation
however comes from Symphony. In any case anyone is curious, Sun licensed
Openoffice.org code to IBM a long time back (they could do this because Sun
mandated a copyright assignment for all external contributions) and IBM
developed Symphony as a proprietary fork. Now that Oracle has donated the
codebase to Apache on the request of IBM, IBM has stopped Symphony and is
contributing to Apache Openoffice instead. Libreoffice which is a fork
of the original Openoffice.org ( before the Oracle donation to Apache) is
developing its own changes but continuing to cherry pick some features from
Apache Openoffice.org and the sidebar happens to be one of those features.
Rahul
7:44 p.m.
2013/7/29 Olav Vitters <olav(a)vitters.nl>:
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 07:33:39AM +0200, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
> What is it supposed to look like?
It is not a new UI. You can add a sidebar, taken from IBM Symphony. It
is not working perfectly so it is still under experimental. For me I can
enable it under Tools→Options→Advanced. After enabling the sidebar,
LibreOffice needs to be restarted. The developers mentioned it is
planned for 4.2 as stable.
Thanks a lot that is what I was looking for. It isn't a feature that I
need; but I want to try, I though I didn't find it because I didn't
install a package made for that specific panel (I don't know if it
would be the best practice, I mean it may be has sense if it was a
component with problem of dependencies).
Again, one more time, thanks a lot to everybody.
-Isaac C.
7:08 a.m.
On 7/29/2013 8:01 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/29/13 19:40, David wrote:
> On 7/29/2013 3:14 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 07/29/13 14:14, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
>>> On 29.07.2013 07:32, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>> On 07/29/13 12:37, Isaac Cortés González wrote:
>>>>> Well, I'm having a problem trying to enable the new UI of
LibreOffice
>>>>> 4.1, all this in F19+KDE; but for some reason I can't see it in
any
>>>>> menuItem or any other menu or option; is this because of KDE or is
>>>>> there a dependency I haven't resolve?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It is way too HOT here in Taiwan so my brain is slower than usual. What
is the new UI of LibreOffice supposed to look like or do? Any screenshots to show me what
I'm missing? I just updated an F19 system and don't see anything new.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> There are some changes constantly made to UI in LO but mostly they're
>>> visible from developer's perspective. They use more flexible way of
>>> placing and resizing controls on LO windows. Regular user has to be very
>>> inquisitive to see that changes.
>>>
>> So, how do I know if I am looking at the New UI or the Old UI?
>>
>
>
> Libreoffice > Help > About Libreoffice > read the popup information?
>
Other than the release information what can you glean from that?
What I'm trying to get at is "What *is* the new UI" being referred to by
the OP? I don't see any significant differences between the UI on my F18 system and a
fully updated F19 system.
Hmm... Sorry. I misunderstood your question. I, myself, don't see
anything that stands out and 'new and shiny' in the GUI but here is some
information about what was done under the hood.
"Release Notes
LibreOffice 4.1.0 Final (2013-07-25)"
<http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/>
--
David
7:01 a.m.
On 07/29/13 19:40, David wrote:
On 7/29/2013 3:14 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 07/29/13 14:14, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
>> On 29.07.2013 07:32, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> On 07/29/13 12:37, Isaac Cortés González wrote:
>>>> Well, I'm having a problem trying to enable the new UI of
LibreOffice
>>>> 4.1, all this in F19+KDE; but for some reason I can't see it in any
>>>> menuItem or any other menu or option; is this because of KDE or is
>>>> there a dependency I haven't resolve?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It is way too HOT here in Taiwan so my brain is slower than usual. What is
the new UI of LibreOffice supposed to look like or do? Any screenshots to show me what
I'm missing? I just updated an F19 system and don't see anything new.
>>>
>>>
>> There are some changes constantly made to UI in LO but mostly they're
>> visible from developer's perspective. They use more flexible way of
>> placing and resizing controls on LO windows. Regular user has to be very
>> inquisitive to see that changes.
>>
> So, how do I know if I am looking at the New UI or the Old UI?
>
Libreoffice > Help > About Libreoffice > read the popup information?
Other than the release information what can you glean from that?
What I'm trying to get at is "What *is* the new UI" being referred to by the
OP? I don't see any significant differences between the UI on my F18 system and a
fully updated F19 system.
--
Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts
6:40 a.m.
On 7/29/2013 3:14 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/29/13 14:14, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
> On 29.07.2013 07:32, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 07/29/13 12:37, Isaac Cortés González wrote:
>>> Well, I'm having a problem trying to enable the new UI of LibreOffice
>>> 4.1, all this in F19+KDE; but for some reason I can't see it in any
>>> menuItem or any other menu or option; is this because of KDE or is
>>> there a dependency I haven't resolve?
>>>
>>>
>> It is way too HOT here in Taiwan so my brain is slower than usual. What is the
new UI of LibreOffice supposed to look like or do? Any screenshots to show me what
I'm missing? I just updated an F19 system and don't see anything new.
>>
>>
> There are some changes constantly made to UI in LO but mostly they're
> visible from developer's perspective. They use more flexible way of
> placing and resizing controls on LO windows. Regular user has to be very
> inquisitive to see that changes.
>
So, how do I know if I am looking at the New UI or the Old UI?
Libreoffice > Help > About Libreoffice > read the popup information?
--
David
5:41 a.m.
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Steven P. Ulrick <meow8282(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Do you mean "Tools | Options | LibreOfficeDev | Personalization"? This
lets you use Firefox "Personas", NOT the full themes.
On a side note, if I use LibreOffice.org versions from their Nightly
Builds, LibreOffice uses the same Oxygen widgets and style that I use
on my KDE desktop. But, if I use a stable version of LibreOffice, or
the recent pre-release version of the 4.1 branch, my Oxygen
style/widgets are NOT respected...
Sounds complicated and messy... makes me proud of my decision to stick
to XFCE and Gnome, and Apache OpenOffice ;-)
*joke* *joke*
FC
-
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
- George Orwell
3:37 a.m.
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:37:20 -0600
Isaac Cortés González <w.isaac.cortes(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Well, I'm having a problem trying to enable the new UI of
LibreOffice
4.1, all this in F19+KDE; but for some reason I can't see it in any
menuItem or any other menu or option; is this because of KDE or is
there a dependency I haven't resolve?
Do you mean "Tools | Options | LibreOfficeDev | Personalization"? This
lets you use Firefox "Personas", NOT the full themes.
On a side note, if I use LibreOffice.org versions from their Nightly
Builds, LibreOffice uses the same Oxygen widgets and style that I use
on my KDE desktop. But, if I use a stable version of LibreOffice, or
the recent pre-release version of the 4.1 branch, my Oxygen
style/widgets are NOT respected...
Steven P. Ulrick
3:34 a.m.
On 29.07.2013 09:14, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/29/13 14:14, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
> On 29.07.2013 07:32, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 07/29/13 12:37, Isaac Cortés González wrote:
>>> Well, I'm having a problem trying to enable the new UI of LibreOffice
>>> 4.1, all this in F19+KDE; but for some reason I can't see it in any
>>> menuItem or any other menu or option; is this because of KDE or is
>>> there a dependency I haven't resolve?
>>>
>>>
>> It is way too HOT here in Taiwan so my brain is slower than usual. What is the
new UI of LibreOffice supposed to look like or do? Any screenshots to show me what
I'm missing? I just updated an F19 system and don't see anything new.
>>
>>
> There are some changes constantly made to UI in LO but mostly they're
> visible from developer's perspective. They use more flexible way of
> placing and resizing controls on LO windows. Regular user has to be very
> inquisitive to see that changes.
>
So, how do I know if I am looking at the New UI or the Old UI?
I don't know. You can compare how it was on LO < 4.0 and see how it is
now. Mostly this new changes are cleanups and not revolutionary GUI
redesigns. I'd be looking for small improvements and bug fixes about
dialogs (printing dialog, Font dialog) text boxes, etc.
Mateusz Marzantowicz
2:14 a.m.
On 07/29/13 14:14, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
On 29.07.2013 07:32, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 07/29/13 12:37, Isaac Cortés González wrote:
>> Well, I'm having a problem trying to enable the new UI of LibreOffice
>> 4.1, all this in F19+KDE; but for some reason I can't see it in any
>> menuItem or any other menu or option; is this because of KDE or is
>> there a dependency I haven't resolve?
>>
>>
> It is way too HOT here in Taiwan so my brain is slower than usual. What is the new
UI of LibreOffice supposed to look like or do? Any screenshots to show me what I'm
missing? I just updated an F19 system and don't see anything new.
>
>
There are some changes constantly made to UI in LO but mostly they're
visible from developer's perspective. They use more flexible way of
placing and resizing controls on LO windows. Regular user has to be very
inquisitive to see that changes.
So, how do I know if I am looking at the New UI or the Old UI?
--
Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts
1:14 a.m.
On 29.07.2013 07:32, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/29/13 12:37, Isaac Cortés González wrote:
> Well, I'm having a problem trying to enable the new UI of LibreOffice
> 4.1, all this in F19+KDE; but for some reason I can't see it in any
> menuItem or any other menu or option; is this because of KDE or is
> there a dependency I haven't resolve?
>
>
It is way too HOT here in Taiwan so my brain is slower than usual. What is the new UI
of LibreOffice supposed to look like or do? Any screenshots to show me what I'm
missing? I just updated an F19 system and don't see anything new.
There are some changes constantly made to UI in LO but mostly they're
visible from developer's perspective. They use more flexible way of
placing and resizing controls on LO windows. Regular user has to be very
inquisitive to see that changes.
Mateusz Marzantowicz
12:32 a.m.
On 07/29/13 12:37, Isaac Cortés González wrote:
Well, I'm having a problem trying to enable the new UI of
LibreOffice
4.1, all this in F19+KDE; but for some reason I can't see it in any
menuItem or any other menu or option; is this because of KDE or is
there a dependency I haven't resolve?
It is way too HOT here in Taiwan so my brain is slower than usual. What is the new UI of
LibreOffice supposed to look like or do? Any screenshots to show me what I'm missing?
I just updated an F19 system and don't see anything new.
--
Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts
6:05 p.m.
On 07/30/13 06:52, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 07:33:39AM +0200, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
> What is it supposed to look like?
It is not a new UI. You can add a sidebar, taken from IBM Symphony. It
is not working perfectly so it is still under experimental. For me I can
enable it under Tools→Options→Advanced. After enabling the sidebar,
LibreOffice needs to be restarted. The developers mentioned it is
planned for 4.2 as stable.
Now *that* makes sense.
Thanks
--
Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts
5:52 p.m.
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 07:33:39AM +0200, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
What is it supposed to look like?
It is not a new UI. You can add a sidebar, taken from IBM Symphony. It
is not working perfectly so it is still under experimental. For me I can
enable it under Tools→Options→Advanced. After enabling the sidebar,
LibreOffice needs to be restarted. The developers mentioned it is
planned for 4.2 as stable.
--
Regards,
Olav
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