People, I have been using Fedora since the beginning and only on a few occasions have I tried fedup or equivalent when upgrading from one version to the next - mostly, being a bit obsessive, I have re-installed from scratch with a XFCE Live CD and reinstalled my Qmail MTA etc etc. So, although the initial install of the OS was always very quick, I was still installing odd, infrequently used packages weeks and even months later. Just now I bit the bullet and for the first time tried the new option: dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=23 and from rebooting F22 to the new F23 login prompt took just 48 minutes! Well done and thanks a lot everyone concerned with Fedora development! It is a great system! During the 48 minutes I was a little anxious and kept watching the drive LED and the occasional screen messages to make sure things were still working but the process eventually finished happily - I did notice some "failed" messages during the process but of what I saw it didn't look like they were likely to bother me much - we shall see . . Thanks again! Regards, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: phil(a)pricom.com.au