Hum... As the subject says... I have been finding bad FF failures on F11 - wonder if I should downgrade until a more stable version comes out? This version is pretty, but has some really nasty bugs, me thinks: + Bad rendering: simply said, I am seeing extra "stuff" that shouldn't be there - random vertical or horizontal black lines and other glyphs I could swear ET was sending messages. + Untimely death: Firefox dies by itself, then restarts, then says something like: "This is EM BAR ASS ING ...." and gives you a choice to start fresh or restore what you had before. Happens fairly often,, once or twice a day. + Locks out system: Uh huh, yep. Your system is in a deep slumber and is cloistered from the external world. A swift (re) boot (in the pants) is necessary. Dan