9:43 a.m.
Can't get the screws loose on the drive caddy (lenovo e120x)! Someone
really torked them tight or glued them in. :(
$9.9 to buy one used from someone that either figured out how to loosen
the screws or has the right tools.
Venting here.
10:33 a.m.
On Dec 24, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com> wrote:
Can't get the screws loose on the drive caddy (lenovo e120x)!
Someone really torked them tight or glued them in. :(
$9.9 to buy one used from someone that either figured out how to loosen the screws or has
the right tools.
Venting here.
If the head has been stripped, the driver is wrong sized for the screw. An exactly right
sized driver with moderate pressure will unstick a tight screw so long as it isn't
actually glued. And in that case with even more pressure it should still crack the glue
with less than Herculean effort.
If the screw head is stripped and sticks out a bit you can use a small file to create a
couple notches top and bottom of the screw then use needle nose pliers to unscrew it. Or
you'll have to drill it out.
Chris Murphy
10:54 a.m.
On 12/24/2013 11:33 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Dec 24, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com>
wrote:
> Can't get the screws loose on the drive caddy (lenovo e120x)!
> Someone really torked them tight or glued them in. :(
>
> $9.9 to buy one used from someone that either figured out how to
> loosen the screws or has the right tools.
>
> Venting here.
If the head has been stripped, the driver is wrong sized for the
screw. An exactly right sized driver with moderate pressure will
unstick a tight screw so long as it isn't actually glued. And in that
case with even more pressure it should still crack the glue with less
than Herculean effort.
If the screw head is stripped and sticks out a bit you can use a
small file to create a couple notches top and bottom of the screw
then use needle nose pliers to unscrew it. Or you'll have to drill it
out.
Thanks but...
Right size screwdriver: Phillips #0; I have been doing this for close to
60 years. Stripping phillips head screws that is :)
Heads not stripped. yet. Being careful.
Lots of pressure tried. Including holding screwdriver with wrench and
trying to turn. But can't maintain enough downward pressure to get it
to budge.
Heads not raised enough to grab with any pliers I own, and I have a lot
of them. Maybe try and file the heads square and see if that makes
grabbing them easier.
Stupid manufacturers.
10:59 a.m.
Something I've done successfully in the past for small, nearly stripped screws:
Put a drop of crazy glue in the screw. Put the screwdriver in as
straight as you can and balance against something. Let dry. Now try
to get the screw out.
Sounds crazy, but it has worked. Of course, this is last resort
before drilling it out.
--murph
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com> wrote:
> Right size screwdriver: Phillips #0; I have been doing
this for close to 60
> years. Stripping phillips head screws that is :)
> Heads not stripped. yet. Being careful.
> Lots of pressure tried. Including holding screwdriver with wrench and
> trying to turn. But can't maintain enough downward pressure to get it to
> budge.
> Heads not raised enough to grab with any pliers I own, and I have a lot of
> them. Maybe try and file the heads square and see if that makes grabbing
> them easier.
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11:21 a.m.
On 12/24/2013 12:08 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:59 AM, murph <murph(a)member.fsf.org>
wrote:
> crazy glue in the screw.
neat trick.
At this point it is well worth trying. I not only want the caddy for
the new SSD, but the old drive I want to put into an enclosure.
11:44 a.m.
On 12/24/2013 12:21 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 12/24/2013 12:08 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:59 AM, murph <murph(a)member.fsf.org> wrote:
>
>> crazy glue in the screw.
> neat trick.
At this point it is well worth trying. I not only want the caddy for
the new SSD, but the old drive I want to put into an enclosure.
If you damage the screws and have to replace them, remember that they're
probably metric threads!
--doug
11:22 a.m.
On 12/24/2013 12:08 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:59 AM, murph <murph(a)member.fsf.org>
wrote:
> crazy glue in the screw.
neat trick.
BTW, the reason I can hold this conversation and talk about taking apart
a drive caddy, is I have an old one from a fried system.
11:43 a.m.
On 12/24/2013 08:59 AM, murph issued this missive:
Something I've done successfully in the past for small, nearly
stripped screws:
Put a drop of crazy glue in the screw. Put the screwdriver in as
straight as you can and balance against something. Let dry. Now try
to get the screw out.
Sounds crazy, but it has worked. Of course, this is last resort
before drilling it out.
Often 5-minute epoxy works better (thicker, goey-ier, can take a bit
more torque and off-axis force than Crazy Glue). If the carrier isn't
plastic, try a 30-watt soldering iron applied (no tinning) to the center
of the screw head. Heat will often loosen that stuff.
That being said, I've drilled and ez-outed more screws (from #2s and up)
and bolts (I have old Jaguar cars) than I care to think about.
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12:49 p.m.
Once upon a time, Chris Murphy <lists(a)colorremedies.com> said:
If the head has been stripped, the driver is wrong sized for the
screw. An exactly right sized driver with moderate pressure will unstick a tight screw so
long as it isn't actually glued. And in that case with even more pressure it should
still crack the glue with less than Herculean effort.
My Thinkpads have thread-lock on all screws, so that may explain why it
is so difficult to break the screw free.
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Chris Adams <linux(a)cmadams.net>
3:38 p.m.
On 12/24/2013 01:49 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Chris Murphy <lists(a)colorremedies.com> said:
> If the head has been stripped, the driver is wrong sized for the screw. An exactly
right sized driver with moderate pressure will unstick a tight screw so long as it
isn't actually glued. And in that case with even more pressure it should still crack
the glue with less than Herculean effort.
My Thinkpads have thread-lock on all screws, so that may explain why it
is so difficult to break the screw free.
The super glue got one out, but still
ruined the screwdriver. Then I
found a #0 phillips with more substance to it, and it got the other
three out. Boy were they tight! Most likely a touch of thread-lock on
all of them.
6:47 a.m.
Allegedly, on or about 24 December 2013, Robert Moskowitz sent:
The super glue got one out, but still ruined the screwdriver.
Next time try mildly tapping the back of the screwdriver handle with
another screwdriver handle, a few times, while you try to unscrew. You
may just crack the seal/cold-weld.
On many occasions, for me, a moderate amount of brute force, in that
manner, has unstuck screws that a ridiculous amount effort at trying to
just simply unscrew them has failed.
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