2023-04-08 12:04 UTC+02:00, ToddAndMargo via users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;: mplayer Andras

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 03:04:38 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote: Have you opened a bug report with their upstream, or even on Fedora, for the issues you have? Are the devs aware of the problems, but not fixing them? Are there lots of 'me too's in the bugs? I'm just curious whether it is just your user experience, or the broader community also has a lot of issues. Whenever I've used vlc, it has done what I asked of it, though that is only occasionally. I primarily use mplayer. Under the covers it uses ffmpeg, which seems to have a lot of development, if the git repository is any indication. So, if you want cutting edge, you could use ffplay from ffmpeg.

On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 6:37 PM ToddAndMargo via users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote: The VLC sources are at https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc . The README says the BugTracker is at https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues . Jeff

On 4/8/23 19:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: That image is so small, it's unreadable. But I have no problem going to that url if that's what you're trying to show.

On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 6:37 PM ToddAndMargo via users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote: I'm curious what bugs you are encountering. I use vlc all the time and the only significant bug I run into is the one where it skips the first few seconds of the first track on startup. I have encountered issues using vlc that I believe are in the libraries it uses as they tend to only appear with some media types and not others - typically these are things like memory leaking while a video is paused for a long time, or a video that - again after a long pause (hours) will resume the audio but not the video unless I tell it to skip backwards a few seconds. I have also encountered issues with controlling vlc using the DBUS MPRIS interface, but that might be issues in my code rather than vlc for all I know.

On 4/8/23 19:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: vlc-3.0.18-2.fc37.x86_64 Well I do have a ton on ogg and mp4's that range from 3 minutes to 10 minutes. I like to play music when I am working on my computer and I can't stand commercials and talking. 1) every time it changes files, it pops into the foreground. This destroys what I am typing and VLC starts to responds to my keystrokes creating even more havoc. (smplayer and parole do not.) 2) if I have it on "list", when a new file loads up, it switches to show video. That is my call, not their's. This wold ot be such a real problem if VLC would stay in the background. (smplayer and parole do not do this.) 3) when it switch to the foreground, the windows walks up the page. I like to put it on the lower left, but have given up and put in on the upper left to get it to stop walking up my screen. I posted this bugs years ago when the bug reporter sill worked and ignored: https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues/8728 Beware of the security warning if you click on this. smplayer and parole stay put. 4) occasionally when it opens a new video, it scales about five times larger than my screen. All my task bars/panels are covered up. And no keystroke works to get it out. "Esc" is suppose to work, but only work about 1/5 the of the time. I am forced to <ctrl><alt><f2> ps and kill to get my screen back. (smplayer and parole do not.) 5) when operated on randomize and full screen, it will play for a while (about an hour) then park on the first file at the top and repeat it over and over. (smplayer and parole do not.) VLC has started to annoy the snot out of me with all the above bugs. Time for me to switch away from VLC. -T

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 11:22 AM stan via users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote: Agree that if vlc isn't fit for OP's purpose, then find another player. If vlc is being launched from the command-line, one can try the "--novideo" option. There should be a similar option available via the menus.

On Sat, 2023-04-08 at 03:04 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I can only say I've noticed one bug with VLC: If you have repeat play on and try to play a broken file it'll deadloop with very heavy CPU use, and it's nearly impossible to make it quit. I nearly always use VLC for playing things, but I often use mpv for those double-click on unknown video files to figure out which is which. As a simple one-at-a-time player, it's reasonably good, but I absolutely hate its on-screen progress bar when you whiz through a file. I can't find any way to disable it. It's big, and usually in the way. Why do programmers put on screen displays in such stupid places? -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.88.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 7 15:41:52 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list.

Tim: Joe Zeff: It really bogs down the PC, I've got little chance to open a terminal. You could hammer away on VLC's close gadget and not get noticed. I nearly always have to kill X with CTRL ALT BACKSPACE as about the only way to deal with it. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.88.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 7 15:41:52 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list.

Tim: ToddAndMargo: When I say it bogs down the PC, it *REALLY* bogs it down. Far worse than when an app went mad with the swap space. If I don't CTRL ALT BACKSPACE fast, that's it, I won't be able to do anything with the keyboard, and hardly anything with the mouse, I'll have to hit the hardware reset button. It rapid-fire tries to reload an unplayable file, in an infinite loop, and everything suffers. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.88.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 7 15:41:52 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list.

On 4/8/23 03:04, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I installed SMPlayer. It is a GUI for MPlayer, but dnf download mvp and mot mplayer, so go figure. It works though.

I use Parole in place of VLC when it doesn’t work for me — and it’s quite good. Would recommend it! Slade