Hi All,
I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead.
Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with?
Many thanks, -T
On Sat, 2024-04-27 at 21:21 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead.
Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with?
Can't you you install them on the running system?
poc
On 4/28/24 01:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, 2024-04-27 at 21:21 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead.
Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with?
Can't you you install them on the running system?
poc
No. The customer wants to play with it to see if he want to ditch Windows 11 or not. If he likes Fedora, then yes.
ToddAndMargo via users writes:
Hi All,
I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead.
Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with?
iso9660 is pretty much a read-only format. If there's a spare USB port on the hardware you can put more stuff on a separate USB stick and mount it.
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 11:21 PM ToddAndMargo via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Hi All,
I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead.
Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with?
There used to be a way to make it semi-permanent but I don't think that's supported anymore. But it would only record changes to the file system (all changes were appended) so you would eventually use up the space.
In this case I might be tempted to do a real install to a USB stick or similar. I actually had a full install on a M.2 SATA in a USB 3.0 enclosure.
Thanks, Richard
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 1:21 AM ToddAndMargo via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Hi All,
I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead.
I'm seeing some large organizations interested in getting away from Windows -- they can drop in systems (ones that won't run Win 11 and otherwise headed to a reseller/recycler) with Linux configured for their use cases.
Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with?
The Live USB isn't suitable for such demo installs. Fedora runs well on portable USB3 SSD's (I have one NVMe and one SATA case with 128 and 256 GB drives removed from Windows systems that needed more space). These give "full" experience. Nvidia graphics may be an issue -- the Live Environment provides nouveau which may not meet the needs of some users.
Over the years I've introduced Unix (SGI IRIX64, NeXT) and Linux to many users (mostly PhD level biologists whose previous experience was on Windows or macOS) because they needed to use some niche command-line software for batch processing.
A few users refuse to use command-line and shell processing, and would spend days with an editor creating a ".bat" script and fixing typos in 100's of lines that only differed in file names.
Users new to Linux need (now more than ever as web searches increasingly provide bad advice) to have a trustworthy reference such as Linux Command on their machine. For Fedora, you might add basic references for journalctl and SElinux.
On 28 Apr 2024, at 05:21, ToddAndMargo via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with?
What I do is use the installer USB to install onto a second USB device. The second one will have writable space that you can install software in the normal way.
Barry
On 4/27/24 21:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead.
Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with?
https://www.baeldung.com/linux/easy2boot-live-usb-persistence
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead.
Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with?
If you are really makking the spin yourself, you should be able to put anything you want on it. I infer that you are actually copying a .iso file to a USB stick.
I have on occasion installed a Fedora system onto an SD card sitting in a USB SD card reader/writer. Do the install. Update. Add stuff you want. Hand it to customer. You might want to make /bin /usr/bin and some other directories and their files unwriteable.
Another possibility. IIRC a .iso file will boot from a partition. Give the flash device two partitions. Make the first partition a copy of the .iso file. In the other partition, put a bunch of .rpm's and a script that the customer can click on.
On 4/28/24 15:04, Michael Hennebry wrote:
If you are really makking the spin yourself,
I am just downloading it
https://fedoraproject.org/spins/mate/
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