3:28 a.m.
It is not a bug but merely an irritation whenever I update the kernel
to the next level kernel-devel is not updated, I have to do it manually
when I run into a problem that it is not installed.
How can I train dnf to pull in kernel-devel when the kernel is updated?
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6:18 a.m.
On 03/11/16 17:28, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
It is not a bug but merely an irritation whenever I update the
kernel
to the next level kernel-devel is not updated, I have to do it manually
when I run into a problem that it is not installed.
How can I train dnf to pull in kernel-devel when the kernel is updated?
I've got kernel-devel installed and every time the kernel gets upgraded the
development
package gets upgraded. I use the default settings so there are 3 kernel and 3
kernel-devel on my system.
Is it possible that at sometime you change a config file to exclude devel or some other
package and you used a wild card and you're getting some unexpected consequences?
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7:38 a.m.
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Erik P. Olsen <epodata(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It is not a bug but merely an irritation whenever I update the
kernel
to the next level kernel-devel is not updated, I have to do it manually
when I run into a problem that it is not installed.
How can I train dnf to pull in kernel-devel when the kernel is updated?
What version of Fedora are you running? I ran into this on F21, but F22 has
handled this correctly for me.
Thanks,
Richard
7:53 a.m.
On 2016-03-11 at 07:38:24 Richard Shaw wrote:
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Erik P. Olsen
<epodata(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> It is not a bug but merely an irritation whenever I update the
> kernel to the next level kernel-devel is not updated, I have to do
> it manually when I run into a problem that it is not installed.
>
> How can I train dnf to pull in kernel-devel when the kernel is
> updated?
What version of Fedora are you running? I ran into this on F21, but
F22 has handled this correctly for me.
I am running F23. Actually I had to upgrade to 4.4.3-300.fc23 this
morning and kernel-devel didn't upgrade allthough I had all previous
kernel-devel versions installed.
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Erik
8:01 a.m.
On 11 March 2016 at 13:53, Erik P. Olsen <epodata(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 2016-03-11 at 07:38:24 Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Erik P. Olsen <epodata(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > It is not a bug but merely an irritation whenever I update the
> > kernel to the next level kernel-devel is not updated, I have to do
> > it manually when I run into a problem that it is not installed.
> >
> > How can I train dnf to pull in kernel-devel when the kernel is
> > updated?
>
>
> What version of Fedora are you running? I ran into this on F21, but
> F22 has handled this correctly for me.
I am running F23. Actually I had to upgrade to 4.4.3-300.fc23 this
morning and kernel-devel didn't upgrade allthough I had all previous
kernel-devel versions installed.
Note that there is no versioning dependencies between kernel and
kernel-devel so if you only dnf upgrade kernel (or dnf upgrade
kernel-devel) they will fall out of sync.
You need to dnf update kernel kernel-devel together (or not filter the dnf
update at all) to keep them in sync.
8:25 a.m.
On 2016-03-11 at 14:01:48 James Hogarth wrote:
On 11 March 2016 at 13:53, Erik P. Olsen <epodata(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 2016-03-11 at 07:38:24 Richard Shaw wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Erik P. Olsen <epodata(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It is not a bug but merely an irritation whenever I update the
> > > kernel to the next level kernel-devel is not updated, I have to
> > > do it manually when I run into a problem that it is not
> > > installed.
> > >
> > > How can I train dnf to pull in kernel-devel when the kernel is
> > > updated?
> >
> >
> > What version of Fedora are you running? I ran into this on F21,
> > but F22 has handled this correctly for me.
>
> I am running F23. Actually I had to upgrade to 4.4.3-300.fc23 this
> morning and kernel-devel didn't upgrade allthough I had all previous
> kernel-devel versions installed.
>
>
>
Note that there is no versioning dependencies between kernel and
kernel-devel so if you only dnf upgrade kernel (or dnf upgrade
kernel-devel) they will fall out of sync.
You need to dnf update kernel kernel-devel together (or not filter
the dnf update at all) to keep them in sync.
Thanks. I'll take a note of that and see if I remember next time I
upgrade :-)
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Erik
5:20 a.m.
On 2016-03-11 at 14:01:48 James Hogarth wrote:
On 11 March 2016 at 13:53, Erik P. Olsen <epodata(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 2016-03-11 at 07:38:24 Richard Shaw wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Erik P. Olsen <epodata(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It is not a bug but merely an irritation whenever I update the
> > > kernel to the next level kernel-devel is not updated, I have to
> > > do it manually when I run into a problem that it is not
> > > installed.
> > >
> > > How can I train dnf to pull in kernel-devel when the kernel is
> > > updated?
> >
> >
> > What version of Fedora are you running? I ran into this on F21,
> > but F22 has handled this correctly for me.
>
> I am running F23. Actually I had to upgrade to 4.4.3-300.fc23 this
> morning and kernel-devel didn't upgrade allthough I had all previous
> kernel-devel versions installed.
>
>
>
Note that there is no versioning dependencies between kernel and
kernel-devel so if you only dnf upgrade kernel (or dnf upgrade
kernel-devel) they will fall out of sync.
You need to dnf update kernel kernel-devel together (or not filter
the dnf update at all) to keep them in sync.
I think yum-extender for dnf is the culprit. I see today that
kernel-4.4.4-301.fc23 has become available and yum-extender does not
include kernel-devel in the update whereas dnf update does. Weird.
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Erik
12:08 p.m.
On 03/13/2016 03:20 AM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
<snip>
> Note that there is no versioning dependencies between kernel and
> kernel-devel so if you only dnf upgrade kernel (or dnf upgrade
> kernel-devel) they will fall out of sync.
>
> You need to dnf update kernel kernel-devel together (or not filter
> the dnf update at all) to keep them in sync.
I think yum-extender for dnf is the culprit. I see today that
kernel-4.4.4-301.fc23 has become available and yum-extender does not
include kernel-devel in the update whereas dnf update does. Weird.
I'd bugzilla that quickly.
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5:52 p.m.
On 2016-03-14 at 10:08:41 Rick Stevens wrote:
On 03/13/2016 03:20 AM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
<snip>
>> Note that there is no versioning dependencies between kernel and
>> kernel-devel so if you only dnf upgrade kernel (or dnf upgrade
>> kernel-devel) they will fall out of sync.
>>
>> You need to dnf update kernel kernel-devel together (or not filter
>> the dnf update at all) to keep them in sync.
>
>
> I think yum-extender for dnf is the culprit. I see today that
> kernel-4.4.4-301.fc23 has become available and yum-extender does not
> include kernel-devel in the update whereas dnf update does. Weird.
I'd bugzilla that quickly.
OK, searching bugzilla I found that it has already been reported as bug
no 1286389.
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Erik
3:09 p.m.
On 15/03/16 09:52, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
On 2016-03-14 at 10:08:41 Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 03/13/2016 03:20 AM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>
> <snip>
>>> Note that there is no versioning dependencies between kernel and
>>> kernel-devel so if you only dnf upgrade kernel (or dnf upgrade
>>> kernel-devel) they will fall out of sync.
>>>
>>> You need to dnf update kernel kernel-devel together (or not filter
>>> the dnf update at all) to keep them in sync.
>>
>> I think yum-extender for dnf is the culprit. I see today that
>> kernel-4.4.4-301.fc23 has become available and yum-extender does not
>> include kernel-devel in the update whereas dnf update does. Weird.
> I'd bugzilla that quickly.
OK, searching bugzilla I found that it has already been reported as bug
no 1286389.
Just my 2 cents worth, the issue with yumex and dnf showing updates may
just be timing as either they both use different repository metadata or
their refresh cycles are not synchronized (I've experienced repository
refreshes immediately after each other, and I have been in the situation
where I have installed all updates shown by Yumex, gone into DNF and it
has said there are more updates to install and done it.), but currently
both this morning and last night Yumex is showing me updates for both
the 4.4.4-301 kernel and kernel-devel packages.
regards,
Steve
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