9:25 p.m.
Greetings,
In my transition from a Dell XPS 13 L322X (2013 vintage) to a
Dell XPS 13 9380 (2019 vintage), console fonts at bootup are incredibly
small. Is there a way of controlling that?
Also, there is an odd little flashing message "Welcome to GRUB" at
startup. Is there any way of getting rid of that and going to the list of
available kernels?
Thank you,
Max
3:34 p.m.
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 10:25:19PM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
In my transition from a Dell XPS 13 L322X (2013 vintage) to a Dell
XPS
13 9380 (2019 vintage), console fonts at bootup are incredibly small.
Is there a way of controlling that?
For a German keyboard I have this in /etc/vconsole.conf :
------------
KEYMAP="de"
FONT="ter-924n"
------------
AFAIKS with settings in this file I changed fonts both for the
boot-up messages and the tty's after boot.
Note:
From man systemd-vconsole-setup.service:
"Execute systemctl restart systemd-vconsole-setup.service in order to
apply any manual changes made to /etc/vconsole.conf"
I'd try to test fonts on a tty to see what they look like before
changing them via /etc/vconsole.conf
So something like
sudo setfont -v ter-924n -C /dev/tty6
might help for this
More fonts to try maybe in
/lib/kbd/consolefonts
man setfont
Wolfgang
8:20 a.m.
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 10:25:19PM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
> In my transition from a Dell XPS 13 L322X (2013 vintage) to a Dell XPS
> 13 9380 (2019 vintage), console fonts at bootup are incredibly small.
> Is there a way of controlling that?
For a German keyboard I have this in /etc/vconsole.conf :
------------
KEYMAP="de"
FONT="ter-924n"
------------
AFAIKS with settings in this file I changed fonts both for the
boot-up messages and the tty's after boot.
Note:
From man systemd-vconsole-setup.service:
"Execute systemctl restart systemd-vconsole-setup.service in order to
apply any manual changes made to /etc/vconsole.conf"
I'd try to test fonts on a tty to see what they look like before
changing them via /etc/vconsole.conf
So something like
sudo setfont -v ter-924n -C /dev/tty6
might help for this
More fonts to try maybe in
/lib/kbd/consolefonts
man setfont
Thank you; this is very helpful. Now, when I use ctrl-alt-F2 to login
through console, the screen font is very readable.
However, on bootup, when I want to access the kernel menu, or view the
scrolling messages as the system and processes are started, I assume that
I have to alter grub configurations, yes?
I've reviewed some webpages on grub configurations, but it's easily been a
generation since the days of FC2 (or FC3) when I adjusted grub.
Any guidence here would be helpful
Thank you again,
Max
> Wolfgang
8:18 a.m.
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 09:20:30 -0400 (EDT)
Max Pyziur <pyz(a)brama.com> wrote:
However, on bootup, when I want to access the kernel menu, or view
the scrolling messages as the system and processes are started, I
assume that I have to alter grub configurations, yes?
I've reviewed some webpages on grub configurations, but it's easily
been a generation since the days of FC2 (or FC3) when I adjusted grub.
Any guidence here would be helpful
In the file /etc/default/grub you can set the font on the kernel
command line. There is probably some way to set it elsewhere (dracut?,
systemd?), but this works.
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
11:42 a.m.
On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 09:20:30AM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
>On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 10:25:19PM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
>
>>In my transition from a Dell XPS 13 L322X (2013 vintage) to a Dell XPS
>>13 9380 (2019 vintage), console fonts at bootup are incredibly small.
>>Is there a way of controlling that?
>
>For a German keyboard I have this in /etc/vconsole.conf :
>------------
>KEYMAP="de"
>FONT="ter-924n"
>------------
>
>AFAIKS with settings in this file I changed fonts both for the
>boot-up messages and the tty's after boot.
>
> [ ... ]
Thank you; this is very helpful. Now, when I use ctrl-alt-F2 to login
through console, the screen font is very readable.
However, on bootup, when I want to access the kernel menu, or view the
scrolling messages as the system and processes are started, I assume
that I have to alter grub configurations, yes?
In case you already solved it all with stan's suggestion, I wouldn't
go any further - I tend to no not trying to change a running system
.. ;)
If not: It's not clear to me: Are the console fonts still too small
after your change in /etc/vconsole.conf - assuming you rebooted your
computer - or do you see no boot messages at all, when the system
starts?
Just in case they're still to small, here's my
/etc/default/grub
------------------------
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rd.luks.uuid=luks-6ec3f3ab-c5d1-4e4a-b263-c375daf64c11
radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1"
GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG=true
------------------------
Please note the line
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
I'd guess with these settings together with the previously mentioned
vconsole.conf the first lines of the boot messages are still small,
but after a second or two after booting the system the fonts on the
lines following are becoming larger.
Also
info -f grub2 -n 'Simple configuration'
for the
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
line.
Plus:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2#Updating_the_GRUB_configuration_file
Good luck!
Wolfgang
6:56 p.m.
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
[deleteded for the sake of brevity]
If not: It's not clear to me: Are the console fonts still too
small
after your change in /etc/vconsole.conf - assuming you rebooted your
computer - or do you see no boot messages at all, when the system
starts?
Just in case they're still to small, here's my
/etc/default/grub
------------------------
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rd.luks.uuid=luks-6ec3f3ab-c5d1-4e4a-b263-c375daf64c11
radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1"
GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG=true
------------------------
Please note the line
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
I'd guess with these settings together with the previously mentioned
vconsole.conf the first lines of the boot messages are still small,
but after a second or two after booting the system the fonts on the
lines following are becoming larger.
Also
info -f grub2 -n 'Simple configuration'
for the
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
line.
Plus:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2#Updating_the_GRUB_configuration_file
Good luck!
Wolfgang
Thank you for your advice.
I tried modifying /etc/default/grub.
I changed the line reading:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rhgb quiet"
to
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="SYSFONT=ter-m32n LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
I also tried several variants including:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun32 LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
In each instance afterwords, I ran:
grub2-mkconfig -o /etc/grub2.cfg
and then rebooted.
In no instance were the appearance of the fonts changed in the bootup
menu (the one where there is a selection of kernels from which to boot).
They continued to be teeny and illegible (at least, to me).
Thoughts?
Much thanks,
Max
p.s. the machine is a Dell XPS 13 9380 2019 vintage.
7:44 p.m.
On 17/6/23 09:56, Max Pyziur wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2023, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
[deleteded for the sake of brevity]
> If not: It's not clear to me: Are the console fonts still too small
> after your change in /etc/vconsole.conf - assuming you rebooted your
> computer - or do you see no boot messages at all, when the system
> starts?
>
> Just in case they're still to small, here's my
> /etc/default/grub
>
> ------------------------
> GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
> GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"
> GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
> GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true
> GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rd.luks.uuid=luks-6ec3f3ab-c5d1-4e4a-b263-c375daf64c11
> radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1"
> GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
> GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG=true
> ------------------------
>
> Please note the line
> GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
>
> I'd guess with these settings together with the previously mentioned
> vconsole.conf the first lines of the boot messages are still small,
> but after a second or two after booting the system the fonts on the
> lines following are becoming larger.
>
> Also
> info -f grub2 -n 'Simple configuration'
> for the
> GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
> line.
>
> Plus:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2#Updating_the_GRUB_configuration_file
>
>
> Good luck!
> Wolfgang
Thank you for your advice.
I tried modifying /etc/default/grub.
I changed the line reading:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rhgb quiet"
to
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="SYSFONT=ter-m32n LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
I also tried several variants including:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun32 LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
In each instance afterwords, I ran:
grub2-mkconfig -o /etc/grub2.cfg
Hi Max,
I was under the impression that for UEFI boots Fedora loaded
/boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg which loads /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, so when
you run grub2-mkconfig you need to specify grub2-mkconfig -o
/boot/grub2/grub.cfg, as I do, to get you font changes into the grub
boot menus.
regards,
Steve
and then rebooted.
In no instance were the appearance of the fonts changed in the bootup
menu (the one where there is a selection of kernels from which to boot).
They continued to be teeny and illegible (at least, to me).
Thoughts?
Much thanks,
Max
p.s. the machine is a Dell XPS 13 9380 2019 vintage.
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7:52 p.m.
Once upon a time, Stephen Morris <samorris(a)netspace.net.au> said:
I was under the impression that for UEFI boots Fedora loaded
/boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg which loads /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, so
when you run grub2-mkconfig you need to specify grub2-mkconfig -o
/boot/grub2/grub.cfg, as I do, to get you font changes into the grub
boot menus.
/etc/grub2.cfg (and the legacy /etc/grub2-efi.cfg) are symlinks to the
right place... wherever that place may be. So it's generally listed as
"grub2-mkconfig -o /etc/grub2.cfg", because that should just do the
right thing.
--
Chris Adams <linux(a)cmadams.net>
11:56 a.m.
New subject: [Partially Solved] Re: GRUB Issue? Console Fonts and messages?
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Stephen Morris <samorris(a)netspace.net.au>
said:
> I was under the impression that for UEFI boots Fedora loaded
> /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg which loads /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, so
> when you run grub2-mkconfig you need to specify grub2-mkconfig -o
> /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, as I do, to get you font changes into the grub
> boot menus.
/etc/grub2.cfg (and the legacy /etc/grub2-efi.cfg) are symlinks to the
right place... wherever that place may be. So it's generally listed as
"grub2-mkconfig -o /etc/grub2.cfg", because that should just do the
right thing.
Yes, from what I read, at one time both files needed to be updated, now
with the symlinks, only one file (/etc/grub2.cfg).
As for a resolution, I found this webpage to be somewhat helpful:
https://martin.rpdev.net/2017/01/21/setting-console-font-size-on-hidpi-sc...
I fiddled with some fonts to be placed into /boot/grub2/fonts to see which
ones worked (TTY fonts in /usr/share/fonts do) and which ones don't
(/usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts don't).
The one that I'm using now is a result of the following command:
grub2-mkfont -s 32 /usr/share/fonts/redhat/RedHatMono-Medium.ttf -o
/boot/grub2/fonts/RedHatMono-Medium32.pf2
I made some changes to /etc/default/grub, and here is what my current
version looks like:
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true
GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG=true
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rhgb quiet"
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="gfxterm"
GRUB_FONT="/boot/grub2/fonts/RedHatMono-Medium32.pf2"
Please note the last two lines; one specifies the path to the font; the
other is changed from
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
to
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="gfxterm"
However, with this setup, there is a mismatch between what shows up
initially on console (the kernel choices) and the scrolling of the process
startup (that is, if you hit <esc> to watch it quickly go by). W/r/t the
latter, the font only becomes readable once systemd-vconsole-setup.service
seems to be started.
Aesthetically, this isn't optimal, but it advances in resolving the issue
for me.
Thank you,
Max
7:10 p.m.
New subject: [Partially Solved] Re: GRUB Issue? Console Fonts and messages?
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 12:56:54PM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
I made some changes to /etc/default/grub, and here is what my current
version looks like:
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true
GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG=true
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rhgb quiet"
This last line seems to be more or less switching off boot
messages. You sure you want that? See
https://developer.ibm.com/tutorials/l-lpic1-101-2/
" ... erase the words 'quiet', then 'rhgb'. This will stop the Red
Hat
Graphical Boot screen that fedora normally display during boot and
also stop suppressing many of the messages that are normally
generated."
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="gfxterm"
gfxterm: does that result in small fonts boot messages?
GRUB_FONT="/boot/grub2/fonts/RedHatMono-Medium32.pf2"
I'd remove the line above alltogether in the boot command line and see
what happens .. more on that later ..
Please note the last two lines; one specifies the path to the font;
the other is changed from
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
As you remember the value in the last line above is what I have in my
grub file, and not 'gfxterm'.
I suspect with your current setup you're making things more
complicated than necessary. You already wrote that you have now
readable fonts on the console on a running system - so maybe turning
on verbose boot messages by removing "rghb quiet" plus disabling
graphical boot by ordering "GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"" will help
giving you decent readable boot messages. And I suspect that without
setting up specific fonts in grub might trigger it to read
'/etc/vconsole.conf' ...
The IBM page above seems to instruct how to change boot parameters
for the current boot only:
"When you see the GRUB2 menu, you can edit the entry that you want to
modify by selecting it and then pressing e."
and thus - I think - not change your standard boot setup for the
following bootups ... So this approach seems to give a nice
environment to test boot parameters before writing them down
permanently into grub files ...
Good luck!
Wolfgang
3:51 a.m.
New subject: [Partially Solved] Re: GRUB Issue? Console Fonts and messages?
On 19/6/23 10:10, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 12:56:54PM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
>
> I made some changes to /etc/default/grub, and here is what my current
> version looks like:
> GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
> GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"
> GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
> GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true
> GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
> GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG=true
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rhgb quiet"
This last line seems to be more or less switching off boot
messages. You sure you want that? See
https://developer.ibm.com/tutorials/l-lpic1-101-2/
" ... erase the words 'quiet', then 'rhgb'. This will stop the Red
Hat
Graphical Boot screen that fedora normally display during boot and
also stop suppressing many of the messages that are normally
generated."
> GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="gfxterm"
gfxterm: does that result in small fonts boot messages?
Upstream disabled gfxterm when resolving a security issue in grub. The
resolvers of the security issue said they were disabling it, and if the
grub maintainers wanted it enabled they could do it themselves. I
haven't checked recently if it has been enabled again.
regards,
Steve
> GRUB_FONT="/boot/grub2/fonts/RedHatMono-Medium32.pf2"
I'd remove the line above alltogether in the boot command line and see
what happens .. more on that later ..
>
>
> Please note the last two lines; one specifies the path to the font;
> the other is changed from
> GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
As you remember the value in the last line above is what I have in my
grub file, and not 'gfxterm'.
I suspect with your current setup you're making things more
complicated than necessary. You already wrote that you have now
readable fonts on the console on a running system - so maybe turning
on verbose boot messages by removing "rghb quiet" plus disabling
graphical boot by ordering "GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"" will
help
giving you decent readable boot messages. And I suspect that without
setting up specific fonts in grub might trigger it to read
'/etc/vconsole.conf' ...
The IBM page above seems to instruct how to change boot parameters
for the current boot only:
"When you see the GRUB2 menu, you can edit the entry that you want to
modify by selecting it and then pressing e."
and thus - I think - not change your standard boot setup for the
following bootups ... So this approach seems to give a nice
environment to test boot parameters before writing them down
permanently into grub files ...
Good luck!
Wolfgang
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