6 a.m.
I have written a book on Podman which is coming out this summer. Podman
in Action for Manning Publishing.
Manning has an early access program where you can read the first few
chapters (4) and is available now.
https://www.manning.com/books/podman-in-action.
Manning also sent me a discount code for access, mlwalsh.
Dan Walsh
6:02 p.m.
On 5/4/22 09:08, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 5/4/22 05:00, Daniel Walsh wrote:
> I have written a book on Podman which is coming out this summer.
> Podman in Action for Manning Publishing.
Spam. I tried to report it to the page in the .sig, but there doesn't
seem to be anyplace there to report it.
Why do you think it's spam? Daniel is an active part of this community
and that sounds like a useful reference. Most likely not personally
useful for me, but I have no problem with a brief post like that.
6:40 p.m.
On 5/4/22 17:02, Samuel Sieb wrote:
Why do you think it's spam? Daniel is an active part of this
community
and that sounds like a useful reference. Most likely not personally
useful for me, but I have no problem with a brief post like that.
Because it's a commercial advertisement and doesn't look like it belongs
here.
8:41 p.m.
On Wed May04'22 05:40:40PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
From: Joe Zeff <joe(a)zeff.us>
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 17:40:40 -0600
To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Subject: Re: FYI: My book on Podman, preview is available.
On 5/4/22 17:02, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> Why do you think it's spam? Daniel is an active part of this community
> and that sounds like a useful reference. Most likely not personally
> useful for me, but I have no problem with a brief post like that.
Because it's a commercial advertisement and doesn't look like it belongs
here.
I think that given Daniel's contributions to this community, and we can give him some
leeway. This is not a fly-by poster informing us of his (irrelevant) book, never to be
heard from before/after the post. Perhaps he could have labeled it "somewhat
off-topic" or something, but this is an informational post of some relevance.
Best wishes,
Ranjan
8:13 p.m.
On 5/4/22 11:08, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 5/4/22 05:00, Daniel Walsh wrote:
> I have written a book on Podman which is coming out this summer.
> Podman in Action for Manning Publishing.
Spam. I tried to report it to the page in the .sig, but there doesn't
seem to be anyplace there to report it.
Have you lost your mind? An incredibly active, ridiculously helpful
community member is making a post about a book which is really helpful
to people who work with containerization and you're calling it "spam?"
You *seriously* need to check yourself, dude. You clearly have no idea
who Dan is, and you should be embarrassed by this post. He's mentored me
and countless others. He's contributed literally decades of his life
making Linux more secure. He's a senior distinguished engineer at Red
Hat, and has forgotten more about security than you will ever know.
"Spam." Wow. Just... Wow. You should be really, really embarrassed by this.
Go check these videos out and come back to me about Dan Walsh is
"spamming" a Linux mailing list. Wow.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dan+walsh+red+hat+site%3Ayoutube.com
You should really apologize to Dan, while you're at it.
Thomas
8:52 p.m.
On Wed, 4 May 2022 20:13:08 -0500
Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron(a)camerontech.com> wrote:
You should really apologize to Dan, while you're at it.
Thomas
and you, Thomas, should maybe take it down a notch. I didn't know who he
was either.
D
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9:38 p.m.
On 5/4/22 19:13, Thomas Cameron wrote:
You *seriously* need to check yourself, dude. You clearly have no
idea
who Dan is, and you should be embarrassed by this post. He's mentored me
and countless others. He's contributed literally decades of his life
making Linux more secure. He's a senior distinguished engineer at Red
Hat, and has forgotten more about security than you will ever know.
I've been on this list for over a decade, and recognize his name.
However, spam is spam and even somebody like Daniel can slip.
2:13 a.m.
Am 05.05.2022 um 04:38 schrieb Joe Zeff <joe(a)zeff.us>:
I've been on this list for over a decade, and recognize his name. However, spam is
spam and even somebody like Daniel can slip.
Can a person's individual qualification and honor count whether the general rules
apply or not?
If one takes the principles of freedom and equality seriously, obviously not.
Is a relentlessness here always conducive and useful to preserve and strengthen these
principles? Certainly not, as many examples from big politics show, and also this example
on a smaller scale. The book, from a known qualified source, can strengthen the
users/readers and thus the principles.
So it is at least a dilemma, not clearly solvable and a question of weighing. And any
harsh judgments are inappropriate and a no-go.
And is it a commercial at all? If all commercials were this informative and short, I could
get used to loving commercials. Neither in style nor in content is it a commercial.
Is it a commercial because there's a price tag on it? At least it is commonly priced.
And do we even care about price tags? Without any qualm we refer users to youtube videos.
That's where we get our users to pay a price even without a price tag, with their
data. Can we trust these companies? We pretty much know we can't. Does that stop us?
Obviously not.
And because of a (not advertising text style) factual information with clear costs such an
excitement? That doesn't fit at all in an overall context.
9:23 a.m.
And to see the post as not spam someone has to know what Podman is, and I
would suspect that a fair percentage of users on this list do not know (nor
care) what Podman is and therefore this looks like completely unrelated
spam.
Dan should have led with a bit more of a description of what podman is so
it is clear it is related to Fedora in some way.
On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:38 PM Joe Zeff <joe(a)zeff.us> wrote:
On 5/4/22 19:13, Thomas Cameron wrote:
> You *seriously* need to check yourself, dude. You clearly have no idea
> who Dan is, and you should be embarrassed by this post. He's mentored me
> and countless others. He's contributed literally decades of his life
> making Linux more secure. He's a senior distinguished engineer at Red
> Hat, and has forgotten more about security than you will ever know.
I've been on this list for over a decade, and recognize his name.
However, spam is spam and even somebody like Daniel can slip.
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Daniel,
On 2022-05-04 21:00, Daniel Walsh wrote:
I have written a book on Podman which is coming out this summer.
Podman in Action for Manning Publishing.
Manning has an early access program where you can read the first few
chapters (4) and is available now.
https://www.manning.com/books/podman-in-action.
Thanks! - I will read the free chapters and see how I go . . I obviously
prefer Podman to Docker but I am an ordinary user and not a guru so it
should be interesting . .
Phil.
Manning also sent me a discount code for access, mlwalsh.
Dan Walsh
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