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up2date via CLI

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Mike Chambers

Saturday, 13 December 2003 Sat, 13 Dec '03

8:17 a.m.

Has anyone tried running "up2date package" on FC1 + rawhide updates? Mine just sat there and never tried to install the package. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's funny until someone gets hurt...then it's hilarious!"

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Joolz

Saturday, 13 December Sat, 13 Dec

8:39 a.m.

[Mike Chambers schreef op 13-12-2003 08:17 -0600] Has anyone tried running "up2date package" on FC1 + rawhide updates? Mine just sat there and never tried to install the package.

Sorry, no up2date here. FWIW have you ever tried apt-get and synaptic. IMO it's great to maintain a RH / FC system. It's at freshrpms.net -- Fedora Core release 1 (Yarrow) Linux 2.4.22-1.2129.nptl 15:37-15:39

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William Hooper

7:38 p.m.

Joolz said:

> [Mike Chambers schreef op 13-12-2003 08:17 -0600] > > Has anyone tried running "up2date package" on FC1 + rawhide updates? > Mine just sat there and never tried to install the package.

Haven't tried the rawhide up2date, but I did notice the other day that an early run of up2date took *forever* because something caused it to grab all the header files. If you strace the up2date process you can see this happening it that is the case.

Sorry, no up2date here.

How can you help with the issue, then?

FWIW have you ever tried apt-get and synaptic. IMO it's great to maintain a RH / FC system. It's at freshrpms.net

Religious arguments have no place here, please keep them to yourself. -- William Hooper

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Joolz

Sunday, 14 December Sun, 14 Dec

12:40 a.m.

[William Hooper schreef op 13-12-2003 20:38 -0500] Joolz said: >> [Mike Chambers schreef op 13-12-2003 08:17 -0600] >> >> Has anyone tried running "up2date package" on FC1 + rawhide >> updates? Mine just sat there and never tried to install the >> package. Haven't tried the rawhide up2date, but I did notice the other day that an early run of up2date took *forever* because something caused it to grab all the header files. If you strace the up2date process you can see this happening it that is the case. > Sorry, no up2date here. How can you help with the issue, then?

By suggesting a tool that more or less does the same.

> FWIW have you ever tried apt-get and synaptic. IMO it's great to > maintain a RH / FC system. It's at freshrpms.net Religious arguments have no place here, please keep them to yourself.

Lighten up, pal. Don't accuse me of starting a religious war when I was giving you a perfectly bona fide tip. Obviously you didn't know, so I will explain: "FWIW" means "for what it's worth". -- Fedora Core release 1 (Yarrow) Linux 2.4.22-1.2129.nptl 07:36-07:40

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Mike Chambers

7:28 a.m.

On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 00:40, Joolz wrote:

Lighten up, pal. Don't accuse me of starting a religious war when I was giving you a perfectly bona fide tip. Obviously you didn't know, so I will explain: "FWIW" means "for what it's worth".

Heh, this wasn't towards me (to someone else who replied earlier), but I do have apt/yum and up2date uses them both. Anyway, up2date does work via CLI, it just takes a bit for it to get going, more than likely the reason the other posted wrote, fetching all .hdr's or something before it gets going. Hopefully this is fixed soon or something so as to not take so long and only get the ones that were called for. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "It's funny until someone gets hurt...then it's hilarious!"

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Alexandre Strube

Saturday, 10 January Sat, 10 Jan

2:04 p.m.

Em Dom, 2003-12-14 às 11:28, Mike Chambers escreveu:

> so I will explain: "FWIW" means "for what it's worth".

Sometimes I see some of those acronyms here. Is there any place where I can find the meanings of it? IIRC, for instance. I don't have any clue about what it is :-) -- []s Alexandre Ganso 500 FOUR vermelha - Diretor Steel Goose Moto Group

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Matt H

3:26 p.m.

On Saturday 10 January 2004 01:04 pm, Alexandre Strube wrote:

Sometimes I see some of those acronyms here. Is there any place where I can find the meanings of it? IIRC, for instance. I don't have any clue about what it is :-)

I just found a really good link: http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/uncgi/acronym -- 14:26:18 up 2 days, 13:42, 3 users, load average: 1.26, 1.33, 1.29

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William Hooper

Sunday, 14 December Sun, 14 Dec

10:07 a.m.

Joolz said:

> > FWIW have you ever tried apt-get and synaptic. IMO it's great to > > maintain a RH / FC system. It's at freshrpms.net > > Religious arguments have no place here, please keep them to > yourself. Lighten up, pal. Don't accuse me of starting a religious war when I was giving you a perfectly bona fide tip. Obviously you didn't know, so I will explain: "FWIW" means "for what it's worth".

This is like telling someone "have you tried Windows" when they ask about a Linux question. If the question had been "how else can I update, because I'm having up2date issues" your reply would have been valid. As it is, your reply added nothing to the discussion of up2date taking a long time. -- William Hooper

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Joolz

12:46 p.m.

[William Hooper schreef op 14-12-2003 11:07 -0500] Joolz said: >> > FWIW have you ever tried apt-get and synaptic. IMO it's great >> > to maintain a RH / FC system. It's at freshrpms.net >> >> Religious arguments have no place here, please keep them to >> yourself. > > Lighten up, pal. Don't accuse me of starting a religious war when > I was giving you a perfectly bona fide tip. Obviously you didn't > know, so I will explain: "FWIW" means "for what it's worth". This is like telling someone "have you tried Windows" when they ask about a Linux question.

Since when does Synaptic run on Windows? So, not a very good comparison there. OP has a goal ("keep a Fedora Core system up to date") and has problems with "application X" which he uses to achieve that goal. All I did was point out that "application Y" will do the same. No holy war intended, I was just giving some information. That's why your remark about "religious arguments" seemed strange to me (softly speaking).

If the question had been "how else can I update, because I'm having up2date issues" your reply would have been valid. As it is, your reply added nothing to the discussion of up2date taking a long time.

It depends on what OP wanted (I must admit I haven't followed the thread from the start, so sorry if I'm mistaken) If he's a developer that wants to improve application X, my remark was totally off topic. In that case I apoligize. If he's an end-user that uses application X to achieve some goal (keep a system up to date), pointing out that application Y will do the same thing his original goal will be accomplished. Anyway, OP can do what he wants with my FWIW / off topic / my 2 cents tip. This discussion we're having now is not very useful so I suggest we leave it at this. Cheers. -- Fedora Core release 1 (Yarrow) Linux 2.4.22-1.2129.nptl 19:36-19:46

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Matthew Saltzman

Saturday, 13 December Sat, 13 Dec

10:50 a.m.

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Mike Chambers wrote:

Has anyone tried running "up2date package" on FC1 + rawhide updates? Mine just sat there and never tried to install the package.

How far does it get? Does it seem like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=111041 or https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=111032? -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs

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Alexandre Strube
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