On Tue, 2023-03-21 at 21:21 -0400, Bruce wrote: With older laptops it was quite easy to remove the hard drive, new very slim laptops are more like a sealed unit. But my method of your kind of upgrade would be to set up your new laptop as a completely new device. Get it working, experiment with it. If you mess up the installation, it's perfectly safe to restart without losing any of your data. And you have the opportunity to try other releases, too. Then, when you're happy with it, unplug your old laptop hard drive, connect it to the new system via a USB/SATA docking station of some kind, *copy* your user data onto the new system. Unplug your old hard drive, and store it safely as a backup of your data. For the "sealed device" problem, there are networking options you can use to copy your own files over. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.88.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 7 15:41:52 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list.

On Wed, 2023-03-22 at 08:45 -0400, bruce wrote: Most libs (and other system files) will be installed by whatever packages you install (that's if you've been installing packages from the repos). One thing I do, post-installation, is when I'm adding any extra apps that aren't default, I'll write a log into root's homespace. As I'm yum/dnf installing whatever, I'll copy the commands into my post- install log. That gives me a reminder, for next time, of the things I added. Yes, I know dnf has a history but it's handy to have some notes about what you chose to install, without having to care about the extra bits it dragged in as dependencies. And a year later, your dnf history might be quite long, as opposed to reading a text file of the 8 things you added after a default install. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.88.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 7 15:41:52 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list.

Hi George. The laptop in question would be one of the AMD 5 ryzen 6/10 core systems from the hp site. I'd add mem/1TB internal drive as well. thanks for your comments! On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:05 AM George N. White III <gnwiii(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 10:21 PM bruce <badouglas(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> >> Hi. >> >> Looking at getting another laptop. >> >> Any thoughts on completely transferring as well as updating the data >> on the current drive to the new laptop. > > > I populate my home directory on a new machine from the backup of the old machine. In the past I used NFS, but now my backups are on USB drives. It > Is helpful to have the old machine in working order to troubleshoot things > that break on the new system (usually my own programs that use a library that > is no longer available from distros — a hint that I need to find a newer library. >> >> >> Assume I might be dealing with a diff flavor of linux. I'm not sure >> what the new laptop will have. >> >> I don't want bleeding edge fedora.. (unless I change my mind). >> >> I don't want RHEL/centos -- I'd like to be newer. >> >> So, give me your thoughts as well as best practice that you use for >> this kind of process... > > > I find there are often issues with newer systems. At present, businesses are > dumping windows systems that won’t run Win11, so you can find higher end > laptops 2 or 3 years old at bargain prices. Many are excellent linux platforms, > but you need to check on linux-hardware.org. There are often issues with display brightness, sound, or wifi. I deal with by updating the wifi and using a USB > sound dongle or a high end USB sound device. > > Laptops this age generally allow you to upgrade internal wifi, RAM, and SSD. If > you are considering a big-name laptop with linux pre-installed, you may be able to > check the specs at linux-hardware.org. > > -- > George N. White III > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue

I have been buying the lowest priced HP/Acer/ASUS that has the features I want. I don't know that there is much difference between them, and I am not sure who the real maker/designed of the laptop is. See the ODM section on this page; From that it becomes clear you have zero idea who really made/designed the product and how good of a job they did. So pick the price and features that you want and ignore the Brand as the brand seems to matter little anymore. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_laptop_brands_and_manufacturers On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:36 AM bruce <badouglas(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > Hi George. > > The laptop in question would be one of the AMD 5 ryzen 6/10 core > systems from the hp site. > > I'd add mem/1TB internal drive as well. > > thanks for your comments! > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:05 AM George N. White III <gnwiii(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 10:21 PM bruce <badouglas(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > >> > >> Hi. > >> > >> Looking at getting another laptop. > >> > >> Any thoughts on completely transferring as well as updating the data > >> on the current drive to the new laptop. > > > > > > I populate my home directory on a new machine from the backup of the old machine. In the past I used NFS, but now my backups are on USB drives. It > > Is helpful to have the old machine in working order to troubleshoot things > > that break on the new system (usually my own programs that use a library that > > is no longer available from distros — a hint that I need to find a newer library. > >> > >> > >> Assume I might be dealing with a diff flavor of linux. I'm not sure > >> what the new laptop will have. > >> > >> I don't want bleeding edge fedora.. (unless I change my mind). > >> > >> I don't want RHEL/centos -- I'd like to be newer. > >> > >> So, give me your thoughts as well as best practice that you use for > >> this kind of process... > > > > > > I find there are often issues with newer systems. At present, businesses are > > dumping windows systems that won’t run Win11, so you can find higher end > > laptops 2 or 3 years old at bargain prices. Many are excellent linux platforms, > > but you need to check on linux-hardware.org. There are often issues with display brightness, sound, or wifi. I deal with by updating the wifi and using a USB > > sound dongle or a high end USB sound device. > > > > Laptops this age generally allow you to upgrade internal wifi, RAM, and SSD. If > > you are considering a big-name laptop with linux pre-installed, you may be able to > > check the specs at linux-hardware.org. > > > > -- > > George N. White III > > > > _______________________________________________ > > users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue