3:37 a.m.
A friend has windows 7 professional sp1 on a Dell Vostro, 230 32 bit
driving word 2007. No viruses reported, no infections, all antivirusware
to update.
Until a few days ago printed perfectly to a HL 4040CN Brother laser.
We have tried everything I know. Ive searched microsoft, Brother Googled
for errors. He has checked cables discussed with Brother who acted like
idiots, couldn't solve the problem.
Windows forums seem very unhelpful so I have to defer to the Linux
knowledge base.
Has anyone in Linuxland who is also using w7pro experienced printing
issues, particularly with Brother laser and worked out what caused the
failure.
Thanks, and apologies in advance for a non Linux issue.
Roger
9:10 a.m.
Friends don't let friends shun open-source.....
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:46:52 -0500 Fred Smith
<fredex(a)fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 08:37:05PM +1100, Roger wrote:
> A friend has windows 7 professional sp1 on a Dell Vostro, 230 32 bit
> driving word 2007. No viruses reported, no infections, all
> antivirusware to update.
> Until a few days ago printed perfectly to a HL 4040CN Brother laser.
> We have tried everything I know. Ive searched microsoft, Brother
> Googled for errors. He has checked cables discussed with Brother who
> acted like idiots, couldn't solve the problem.
> Windows forums seem very unhelpful so I have to defer to the Linux
> knowledge base.
>
> Has anyone in Linuxland who is also using w7pro experienced printing
> issues, particularly with Brother laser and worked out what caused
> the failure.
> Thanks, and apologies in advance for a non Linux issue.
> Roger
No, not me. however I have 2 brother printers at home, and my experience
is that they work better if you use the actual brother driver, not
the ones MS distributes with windows. I'd suggest downloading from the
brother web site, as it may be newer than what's on the dvd/cd that came
with the printer.
Fred
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<snip> Has anyone in Linuxland who is also using w7pro experienced
printing issues, particularly with Brother laser and worked out what
caused the failure.
Thanks, and apologies in advance for a non Linux issue. Roger
Have you tried a live CD on the system to make sure it is a windows
issue?
</snip>
Actually that's a great idea, thanks. It may also help him to
convert to
Linux.
Roger
8:57 p.m.
New subject: OT: Win 7 -- Brother Printer Re: Very Off Topic -
Has anyone in Linuxland who is also using w7pro experienced printing
issues, particularly with Brother laser and worked out what caused
the failure. Thanks, and apologies in advance for a non Linux issue.
Roger
> Thanks to all who responded.
> The owner managed to get to a Brother service tech and was told that the
> USB ports on his computer were not communicating with the printer, He
> switched to eth0 and the printer works. So the USB ports are all of a
> sudden only good for keyboard and microphone.
<snip> Although if it was plugged into one of them, and all
of a sudden stopped while plugged into same port, then sounds buggy to
me. Maybe something in the BIOS or something turned off that port, or
something from MS.
</snip>
Yep I too felt it may be bios switching the port off but could find
no
explanation for it. I'm more comfortable with the 'ms clanger' idea but
that's out of my league.
Roger
5:59 p.m.
New subject: OT: Win 7 -- Brother Printer Re: Very Off Topic -
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 17:11 +1100, Roger wrote:
>> Has anyone in Linuxland who is also using w7pro experienced
printing
>> issues, particularly with Brother laser and worked out what caused
>> the failure. Thanks, and apologies in advance for a non Linux issue.
>> Roger
>
Thanks to all who responded.
The owner managed to get to a Brother service tech and was told that the
USB ports on his computer were not communicating with the printer, He
switched to eth0 and the printer works. So the USB ports are all of a
sudden only good for keyboard and microphone.
I had a similar issue with an HP all-in-one printer and ended up
switching to a different USB port and eventually worked. I know some
come with different versions (2, 3, etc..) of USB ports so it might have
partly been that. Although if it was plugged into one of them, and all
of a sudden stopped while plugged into same port, then sounds buggy to
me. Maybe something in the BIOS or something turned off that port, or
something from MS.
Anyway, glad it's working and if using eth0 port, might work better
and/or faster.
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10:54 a.m.
On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 20:37 +1100, Roger wrote:
A friend has windows 7 professional sp1 on a Dell Vostro, 230 32 bit
driving word 2007. No viruses reported, no infections, all antivirusware
to update.
Until a few days ago printed perfectly to a HL 4040CN Brother laser.
We have tried everything I know. Ive searched microsoft, Brother Googled
for errors. He has checked cables discussed with Brother who acted like
idiots, couldn't solve the problem.
Windows forums seem very unhelpful so I have to defer to the Linux
knowledge base.
Has anyone in Linuxland who is also using w7pro experienced printing
issues, particularly with Brother laser and worked out what caused the
failure.
Thanks, and apologies in advance for a non Linux issue.
Roger
Have you tried a live CD on the system to make sure it is a windows
issue?
6:06 a.m.
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:59:03 +1030
Tim <ignored_mailbox(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Personally,
> I have never got a BSOD since
> I first used MS in 1992.
And how long since you last used it? ;-) (Suspecting a bit of a joke
in your assertion.)
Currently on 8.1, not the same PC though.
Started on 3.1 > 3.11 wg, 95a,b,c 98, 2000, ME,
XP, Vista 32, 7 Pro 32 & 64, 8 > 8.1 32.
Last used 8.1 yesterday.
I can't say that I've had many, though I have seen the computer
crap-out in a myriad of ways over the years. One trick Microsoft
employed to put an end of the blue screens of death complaints was to
stop showing it,
In many case they blamed the some 3rd party app,
which did actually crash.
and just have the computer reboot.
No unplanned reboots.
The bugs are
still there.
I would believe it,
I just don't seem to get them.
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5:29 a.m.
Allegedly, on or about 20 February 2014, Frank Murphy sent:
to quote "Win7 won't work with my app"
He keeps re-installing the app.
This guy is an electronics engineer.
That's computer users all over the place, keep doing the same thing,
over and over, hoping for a different result.
Personally,
I have never got a BSOD since
I first used MS in 1992.
And how long since you last used it? ;-) (Suspecting a bit of a joke
in your assertion.)
I can't say that I've had many, though I have seen the computer crap-out
in a myriad of ways over the years. One trick Microsoft employed to put
an end of the blue screens of death complaints was to stop showing it,
and just have the computer reboot. The bugs are still there.
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1:38 a.m.
On 02/19/2014 11:23 PM, Tim wrote:
But how often is often? Perhaps there's been a slew of recent
updates
made available.
For well over a decade, Microsoft has released updates once a month, on
Patch Tuesday. Most computers that run any version of Windows are set
to download and apply those patches as soon as they're available. If
the OS is updating itself more often, I'd be suspicious. Of course,
third-party software gets updated if and when patches are ready, and
AFAIK there's no particular schedule for them.
1:36 a.m.
Allegedly, on or about 20 February 2014, Roger sent:
> He says that windows has been updating itself very often, which seems
> suspicious.
Suspicious that it's full of bugs?
But how often is often? Perhaps there's been a slew of recent updates
made available. Perhaps Windows has got stuck in a loop trying to
update something that keeps on failing to be applied. Perhaps it's one
of those groups of updates that needs to be done in stages, and it's
taking its time to go through each stage.
All of that, I do admit some suspicion though just because it's windows
and because it occasionally goes back to the computer shop for fixes,
etc. But then 90something% of computer users can't be wrong! I guess.
Anyway he has solved the problem and it's all gone away, for now!
Cheers
Roger
1:23 a.m.
Allegedly, on or about 20 February 2014, Roger sent:
He says that windows has been updating itself very often, which
seems
suspicious.
Suspicious that it's full of bugs?
But how often is often? Perhaps there's been a slew of recent updates
made available. Perhaps Windows has got stuck in a loop trying to
update something that keeps on failing to be applied. Perhaps it's one
of those groups of updates that needs to be done in stages, and it's
taking its time to go through each stage.
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Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64
All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point
trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the
public lists.
George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not
a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments.
4:35 p.m.
Has anyone in Linuxland who is also using w7pro experienced printing
issues, particularly with Brother laser and worked out what caused
the failure.
Thanks, and apologies in advance for a non Linux issue.
Roger
> No, not me. however I have 2 brother printers at home, and my
experience
> is that they work better if you use the actual brother driver, not
> the ones MS distributes with windows. I'd suggest downloading from the
> brother web site, as it may be newer than what's on the dvd/cd that came
> with the printer.
>
> Fred
Thanks Fred
He deleted the printer driver and re installed using the original cd but
problem remains. I think its a windows update problem. He says that
windows has been updating itself very often, which seems suspicious.
9:58 a.m.
Well, I thought that I was being humorous too....sorry for the
misunderstanding!
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:48:45 -0500 Mark Haney <mhaney(a)practichem.com>
wrote:
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>
> So, you are saying that one should go through reams and reams of
> follow-ups to get to a post which is not really a point-by-point
> response? Come on, context matters!!
>
> IMO, Friends don't let friends cling on to rigid dogmas regardless
> of context....
<sarc>Absolutely, because that's precisely what I did. I left the
entire thread intact and posted my reply at the very bottom of the
thread. Making it completely unreadable for you. My apologies for my
clinging to the rigid dogma of readability and thread management. </sarc>
For the record, like a lot of people, I like to read the thread from
beginning to end, not vice-versa. Also like a lot of people, I throw
out bits of the thread that aren't needed to complement the context of
my reply.
Sad, really, that my attempt to add to your humourous reply was met
with heavy-handed self-righteousness. But then, that's exactly what I
am beginning to expect in every online encounter. Including mailing
lists that I've been on for over a decade (like this one), that have
always been polite and self-policing, which included respectful posts
letting new members know that top posting is considered bad
'netiquette'. It seems that trolling is become SOP these days.
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On 02/19/2014 10:26 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
So, you are saying that one should go through reams and reams of
follow-ups to get to a post which is not really a point-by-point
response? Come on, context matters!!
IMO, Friends don't let friends cling on to rigid dogmas regardless
of context....
<sarc>Absolutely, because that's precisely what I did. I left the
entire thread intact and posted my reply at the very bottom of the
thread. Making it completely unreadable for you. My apologies for my
clinging to the rigid dogma of readability and thread management. </sarc>
For the record, like a lot of people, I like to read the thread from
beginning to end, not vice-versa. Also like a lot of people, I throw
out bits of the thread that aren't needed to complement the context of
my reply.
Sad, really, that my attempt to add to your humourous reply was met
with heavy-handed self-righteousness. But then, that's exactly what I
am beginning to expect in every online encounter. Including mailing
lists that I've been on for over a decade (like this one), that have
always been polite and self-policing, which included respectful posts
letting new members know that top posting is considered bad
'netiquette'. It seems that trolling is become SOP these days.
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9:48 a.m.
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:10:16 -0600
Ranjan Maitra <maitra.mbox.ignored(a)inbox.com> wrote:
> Friends don't let friends shun open-source.....
>
Maybe Win7 is required in this instance?
Possible. Thanks for bringing this up!
Ranjan
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:10:16 -0600
Ranjan Maitra <maitra.mbox.ignored(a)inbox.com> wrote:
Friends don't let friends shun open-source.....
Maybe Win7 is required in this instance?
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9:26 a.m.
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:13:16 -0500 Mark Haney <mhaney(a)practichem.com>
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> Friends don't let friends shun open-source.....
>
They also don't let them top post to mailing lists.
So, you are saying that one should go through reams and reams of
follow-ups to get to a post which is not really a point-by-point
response? Come on, context matters!!
IMO, Friends don't let friends cling on to rigid dogmas regardless of
context....
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Friends don't let friends shun open-source.....
They also don't let them top post to mailing lists.
Just sayin'.....
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8:46 a.m.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 08:37:05PM +1100, Roger wrote:
A friend has windows 7 professional sp1 on a Dell Vostro, 230 32 bit
driving word 2007. No viruses reported, no infections, all
antivirusware to update.
Until a few days ago printed perfectly to a HL 4040CN Brother laser.
We have tried everything I know. Ive searched microsoft, Brother
Googled for errors. He has checked cables discussed with Brother who
acted like idiots, couldn't solve the problem.
Windows forums seem very unhelpful so I have to defer to the Linux
knowledge base.
Has anyone in Linuxland who is also using w7pro experienced printing
issues, particularly with Brother laser and worked out what caused
the failure.
Thanks, and apologies in advance for a non Linux issue.
Roger
No, not me. however I have 2 brother printers at home, and my experience
is that they work better if you use the actual brother driver, not
the ones MS distributes with windows. I'd suggest downloading from the
brother web site, as it may be newer than what's on the dvd/cd that came
with the printer.
Fred
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Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He
will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding
it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever."
------------------------------- Isaiah 9:7 (niv) ------------------------------
4:57 a.m.
New subject: OT: Win 7 -- Brother Printer Re: Very Off Topic -
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:37:05 +1100
Roger <arelem(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
Has anyone in Linuxland who is also using w7pro experienced printing
issues, particularly with Brother laser and worked out what caused
the failure. Thanks, and apologies in advance for a non Linux issue.
Roger
Don't have a Brother Laser or Win7, but
do have HP gear, and Win 8.1 pro
(Win Users spend money ; on simple things )
1:
ping the printer? (run;cmd)
default is 4 pings if non-admin.
2:
Control Panel > Administrative Tools >
Microsoft > Windows > PrintService
check events
3:
Control Panel >
device and printers >
Highlight the Brother >
along the top
"See What's printing"
Have a look, if no useful info,
clear the queue at least.
3: Did Windows update his drivers?,
did it work before\after last win update.
4: Anti-virus? what, when updated last , it can affect net connectivity
Just some thing to look at
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Frank
frankly3d.com
1:53 a.m.
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:36:36 +1100
Roger <arelem(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
But then 90something% of computer users can't be wrong!
They can, case in point.
15 times someone re-installed Win7,
over a two year period, viruses...No,
an XP app he got with a camera years ago didn't work.
to quote "Win7 won't work with my app"
He keeps re-installing the app.
This guy is an electronics engineer.
I have run across myriads of them in my time.
Personally,
I have never got a BSOD since
I first used MS in 1992.
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Frank
frankly3d.com
12:11 a.m.
New subject: OT: Win 7 -- Brother Printer Re: Very Off Topic -
> Has anyone in Linuxland who is also using w7pro experienced
printing
> issues, particularly with Brother laser and worked out what caused
> the failure. Thanks, and apologies in advance for a non Linux issue.
> Roger
Thanks to all who responded.
The owner managed to get to a Brother service tech and was told that the
USB ports on his computer were not communicating with the printer, He
switched to eth0 and the printer works. So the USB ports are all of a
sudden only good for keyboard and microphone.
Roger
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