On 12/08/2011 12:47 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 14:30 +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> Activate "activities" by putting the mouse into the upper-left corner of the >> screen. Then you can see a list of currently open workspaces on the far right >> on the screen, where you can click to switch between them (and make an >> indecent-for-public comment on mouse-mileage of the desktop design). > Or install gnome-shell-extension-righthotcorner, move your mouse to the > top right corner, and make indecent-for-public comment on the fact that > options are installable rather than configurable. I installed this and don't see anything different. I even logged out and in and nothing. In the top right I have my user name and if I click on it I get a pull down for a number of choices including logout and suspend.

On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 14:30 +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Activate "activities" by putting the mouse into the upper-left corner of the > screen. Then you can see a list of currently open workspaces on the far right > on the screen, where you can click to switch between them (and make an > indecent-for-public comment on mouse-mileage of the desktop design). Or install gnome-shell-extension-righthotcorner, move your mouse to the top right corner, and make indecent-for-public comment on the fact that options are installable rather than configurable.

On 12/08/2011 09:30 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > And of course, you can always forgive&forget&switch to XFCE, KDE or > LXDE. ;-) And which one has that Win2000 look/feel that I kind of grew up with :)

alt-F1 does bring up the workspace switcher, but Cntl-Alt-arrow does not switch between workspaces. I need to find the handy-dandy workspace keystroke switcher.

On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 09:10:54AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > So I skipped FC15. I never worked on Vista of WIn7, always using the > 'classic' windows desktop in XP. So I have some REAL challenges > adjusting th GNOME in FC16.... > Like where are my workspaces? I work with 4 of them for my different > set of jobs. Maybe with the added memory on this lenovo, I might go > with 6... > Where are the System Admin tools like Services and Printer? Oops just > found Services in 'other'. > I LIKE keyboard shortcuts like Alt-F1 and arrow keys to select what I > want to start without all this messy desktop icons nonsense. > Getting info on workspaces is probably my first concern, but where is > some decent info on how to navigate around now? I suspect if you get responses there is a> 50% chance that you will be advised to switch to another DE: XFCE, LXDE, KDE, etc. But things are not that bad. Fed16+Gnome3.2 is quite usable. I advise you to first have a good look around before you make any decision. Start by reading the 'Help', to be found under 'Activities'->'Applications'->'Accessories': the red/white lifebouy icon. Then you can navigate the desktop more or less comfortably. Furthermore a lot of things can be configured using the so called 'gnome-shell-extensions'. There you can add menu icons to the top bar, remove unwanted icons from top bar, add shutdown to the menu, add a menu item for workspaces, and more. See: http://blog.repl.ca/2011/12/essential-gnome-shell-extensions-for.html to start with.

On 12/08/2011 09:30 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Thursday 08 December 2011 09:10:54 Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> So I skipped FC15. I never worked on Vista of WIn7, always using the >> 'classic' windows desktop in XP. So I have some REAL challenges >> adjusting th GNOME in FC16.... >> >> Like where are my workspaces? I work with 4 of them for my different >> set of jobs. Maybe with the added memory on this lenovo, I might go >> with 6... > Activate "activities" by putting the mouse into the upper-left corner of the > screen. Then you can see a list of currently open workspaces on the far right > on the screen, where you can click to switch between them (and make an > indecent-for-public comment on mouse-mileage of the desktop design). alt-F1 does bring up the workspace switcher, but Cntl-Alt-arrow does not switch between workspaces. I need to find the handy-dandy workspace keystroke switcher.

> You don't get to have a predetermined number of 4 or 6 desktops. You start > with one, and as soon as you open some app on that one, another empty one will > be automatically created for you below that one, and so on. OK. I see this. > The next question you'll probably post will be "where is the shutdown option > in the menu?", so let me save you the trouble and say that there isn't one. > You can get it by pressing the ALT button on the keyboard once you open the > menu. Suspend will be the big option I will be looking for. > And of course, you can always forgive&forget&switch to XFCE, KDE or LXDE. ;-) And which one has that Win2000 look/feel that I kind of grew up with :) I probably need to just bite the bullet as at some point the corp system will go from XP to Win7 and I will be expected to recongnize some things there...

So I skipped FC15. I never worked on Vista of WIn7, always using the 'classic' windows desktop in XP. So I have some REAL challenges adjusting th GNOME in FC16.... Like where are my workspaces? I work with 4 of them for my different set of jobs. Maybe with the added memory on this lenovo, I might go with 6...

I was under the impression that Gnome's design directive was to follow Windows look and feel, but not be a slave to it.