thanks for the info, looking at the Fedora 9 64bit DVD: the first option is: vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img I tried vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img noapic nolapic but that also was frozen up. the second option is vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img text I tried instead: vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img text noapic nolapic that is also frozen up at the: "disc found To begin testing the media ...." screen. can you suggest any other boot commands to try?

On 30-Jul-08 14:25:41 Nigel Henry wrote: >On Wednesday 30 July 2008 11:29, whoosh wrote: >> first I downloaded the Fedora Core 9 64 DVD iso, took many hours, >> >> but on attempting to install, it freezes up at the test media screen. >> >> >> I then downloaded all the FC9 64 CD isos, tried the first one and >> it freezes up at the test media screen. >> >> I tried submitting a report on the University of Kent form, but that >> failed! >> >> >> I then tried the FC9 64 net install CD and it freezes up on the >> choose language screen. >> >> The PC is an AMD Sempron 64 tower, from probably 2006. I thought >> maybe there are bugs in the early AMD64 CPUs. >> >> so I tried the FC9 32 net install iso, freezes up on the "Choose a >> language" >> >> screen. That suggests it isnt a 64 bit bug. >> >> >> >> I tried Ubuntu 64, 8.04.1 that freezes up once the desktop appears. >> >> >> >> >> >> when I say freeze up I mean no response to keyboard (or mouse for >> Ubuntu). >> >> >> >> I installed FC3 some years ago without problem, and I use FC3 and >> Windows XP >> >> all the time without problem. > >This may not be of much help, but I recently built a new machine with an > Asus > >M2N-X Plus mobo (sktAM2), and an AMD64 3800+ CPU. Nothing at all would > boot on it, install discs, or live cd's, (keyboard, mouse, whole machine > locked up), until I disabled acpi in the BIOS, so that may be worth a > try. > >I still had a bunch of problems installing some distros. Kubuntu Gutsy > Gibbon > >7.10 (live cd, with option to install on desktop once booted) booted, and > got > >as far as startx, but locked up before showing the KDM splash screen. > >Fedora 8 installed ok, but I had problems booting post install, and had to > do > >an interactive startup, as it was hanging at starting some services >(ip6tables, and cpu frequency scaling), which I then said (NO) to during > the interactive startup. It looks like I may have had problems also, when > it got booted as far as startx, with locking up prior to displaying GDM > login screen, as I see that I've appended the kernel line in > /boot/grub/menu.lst with noapic nolapic > >Then I tried installing Kubuntu Breezy, which is perhaps a similar age to your >FC3, and that installed ok, using the kernel 2.6.12-9-386. Upgraded Breezy > to > >Dapper, as I had the updates lying about on another disk, which gave me a > new > >kernel 2.6.15-52-386. Rebooted into the new kernel, and it got as far as >displaying KDM to login, but again everything was locked up. Well I knew > that > >it booted ok with the original kernel, so tried it just to very that > Dapper would work ok with the older kernel, and no problems. Not sure if > I tried appending the new kernel with noapic nolapic, but if I did it > didn't work, as > >I ended up booting into runlevel 1, tried startx, and the KDE desktop > opened with no probs. So I thought I'd boot into runlevel 3, login, and > try startx as user. Appended the kernel line with a 3 in grub, booted, > and no runlevel 3, but now the new kernel (2.6.15) has no problems, KDM > opens, and I login with no probs. Thats a bit weird, I know, but seems to > indicate perhaps, that > >it might be a kernel related problem, all these freeze ups, as no prob > with 2.6.12, but probs with 2.6.15, and later. > >Sorry for this very long post, but persevere please. > >Now back to Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10. I tried alsorts to try and stop it >locking up when starting X. noapic, nolapic, acpi=off, noapic nolapic >(together), ll to no avail. The kernel line to boot the live cd also had a >bit "forcevesa" or something like that. I thought that should have been > ok. The pci-E graphics card is ati, but usually vesa works ok if ati > won't, but I > >did notice that the the monitors menu showed a resolution of 1640 x >something, and my monitor uses 1024 x 768, so maybe the lockups were due > to the monitor/graphics card being totally out of range, when trying to > use either the vesa or ati driver with booting the live cd. > >I removed the forcevesa bit from the kernel line, and appended it with >acpi=off, and booted, it got as far as starting x, tried to start it a > couple > >of times, then dropped me back into text mode. Can't remember if I > directly edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf, to change the max res to 1024 x 768, > or if I ran dpkg --reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, but either way, once > done a startx got >me the login screen, and I got the live cd's desktop. Clicked on the icon > to install to harddrive, and that went ok, but I still have to append the > kernel > >line in /boot/grub/menu.lst with acpi=off, otherwise the machine locks up >when starting x. > >Apologies for the long post again, but there may something here that will > you > >a few pointers. > >As I said though, nothing would boot at all, until I disabled acpi in the >BIOS. > >Btw, the processor is 64 bit, but all my installed distros are 32 bit > (i386). > >I also tried the 1st cd for Fedora 9 to see if there were any boot > problems, but as a few days have passed now, and have just finished > dl'ing disk 6 (on dialup), I can't remember any specific bootup problems > for Fedora 9, apart from acpi needing to be disabled in the BIOS. > >All the best. > >Nigel. > >-- >fedora-list mailing list >fedora-list(a)redhat.com >To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

GDM is the Gnome Display Manager, and is the screen you get where you are requested to login

How do I install emacs to Fedora9?

or is there another recommended editor?

one other thing, I like the C formatting style: if( x ) [ tab ]{ [ tab ]x = y ; [ tab ]y = z ; [ tab ]while( 1 ) [ tab ][ tab ]{ [ tab ][ tab ]printf( "?" ) ; [ tab ][ tab ]} [ tab ]} where { and } are in the same column, and each level of nesting is another [ tab ] the code between 2 { and } chars is in the same column as the { and } with Fedora 3 I couldnt find how to get that on emacs, is there a way to get that formatting with emacs (which I havent yet gotten installed on Fedora 9) ?

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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:42 AM, whoosh <whoosh777(a)blueyonder.co.uk&gt; wrote: > On 30-Jul-08 21:57:48 Arkadiy Butermanov wrote: >>2008/7/31 whoosh <whoosh777(a)blueyonder.co.uk&gt; > >>> >>> >>> I have Fedora 9 now installed. Had to do some rearranging >>> >>> of drives. >>> >>> >>> with Fedora Core 3 the boot up led to a choice >>> >>> of desktops. >>> >>> >>> but with Fedora 9 on booting up there is no desktop. >>> >>> How can I get the different desktops that FC3 has? >>> >>> >>> thanks for any ideas >>> >>> >>> -- >>> fedora-list mailing list >>> fedora-list(a)redhat.com >>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > >>try pressing Ctrl-F7 > > doesnt seem to have any effect. > > at which point of the boot process should I press ctrl-F7?

After it is completed booting.

If that doesn't work, try logging in as root into the console and running the following command `init 5`

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whoosh wrote, On 07/31/2008 11:13 AM: > On 30-Jul-08 22:35:16 Nigel Henry wrote: >> On Wednesday 30 July 2008 22:03, whoosh wrote: >>> I have Fedora 9 now installed. Had to do some rearranging >>> of drives. >>> >>> with Fedora Core 3 the boot up led to a choice >>> of desktops. >>> >>> but with Fedora 9 on booting up there is no desktop. >>> How can I get the different desktops that FC3 has? >>> <SNIP> >> When you say there is no desktop, what exactly do you have? > > its just an 80x25 text screen, no windowing, it says: > <SNIP normal console output> > nothing else on the screen, no windowing. > > I tried ctrl-F7 which the other person suggested, but no effect. >

And in a previous email, whoosh wrote, On 07/30/2008 11:59 AM: > I tried that just now and the test media screen now responds! > > vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img text acpi=off >

Which I suspect means he did the install in text mode,

which leaves init at runlevel 3. If someone will tell him the new way of updating init to use runlevel 5 he should be able to get a [kg]dm login to appear.

short of that you could try logging as root and issuing `telinit 5` to get there.

Of course I am assuming that [kg]dm and one or more of Gnome|KDE was installed.

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whoosh wrote, On 07/31/2008 11:13 AM: > > On 30-Jul-08 22:35:16 Nigel Henry wrote: >> >> On Wednesday 30 July 2008 22:03, whoosh wrote: >>> >>> I have Fedora 9 now installed. Had to do some rearranging >>> of drives. >>> >>> with Fedora Core 3 the boot up led to a choice >>> of desktops. >>> >>> but with Fedora 9 on booting up there is no desktop. >>> How can I get the different desktops that FC3 has? >>> <SNIP> >> >> When you say there is no desktop, what exactly do you have? > > its just an 80x25 text screen, no windowing, it says: > <SNIP normal console output> > > nothing else on the screen, no windowing. > > I tried ctrl-F7 which the other person suggested, but no effect. > And in a previous email, whoosh wrote, On 07/30/2008 11:59 AM: > > I tried that just now and the test media screen now responds! > > vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img text acpi=off > Which I suspect means he did the install in text mode, which leaves init at runlevel 3.

On 30-Jul-08 21:57:48 Arkadiy Butermanov wrote: >2008/7/31 whoosh <whoosh777(a)blueyonder.co.uk&gt; >> >> >> I have Fedora 9 now installed. Had to do some rearranging >> >> of drives. >> >> >> with Fedora Core 3 the boot up led to a choice >> >> of desktops. >> >> >> but with Fedora 9 on booting up there is no desktop. >> >> How can I get the different desktops that FC3 has? >> >> >> thanks for any ideas >> >> >> -- >> fedora-list mailing list >> fedora-list(a)redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >try pressing Ctrl-F7 doesnt seem to have any effect. at which point of the boot process should I press ctrl-F7?

On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 18:56 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > Also, when you have a kernel update, you will also have to append the > kernel line for the new kernel, in /boot/grub/menu.lst with acpi=off. > A bit of a nuisance I know, and all part of the fun in working with > Linux, but will avoid a lockup with the new kernel Are you sure about that? Anytime I've updated a kernel, the new one has been installed using the same parameters as were on the prior kernel entry. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686

I have Fedora 9 now installed. Had to do some rearranging of drives. with Fedora Core 3 the boot up led to a choice of desktops. but with Fedora 9 on booting up there is no desktop. How can I get the different desktops that FC3 has? thanks for any ideas

first I downloaded the Fedora Core 9 64 DVD iso, took many hours, but on attempting to install, it freezes up at the test media screen. I then downloaded all the FC9 64 CD isos, tried the first one and it freezes up at the test media screen. I tried submitting a report on the University of Kent form, but that failed! I then tried the FC9 64 net install CD and it freezes up on the choose language screen. The PC is an AMD Sempron 64 tower, from probably 2006. I thought maybe there are bugs in the early AMD64 CPUs. so I tried the FC9 32 net install iso, freezes up on the "Choose a language" screen. That suggests it isnt a 64 bit bug. I tried Ubuntu 64, 8.04.1 that freezes up once the desktop appears. when I say freeze up I mean no response to keyboard (or mouse for Ubuntu). I installed FC3 some years ago without problem, and I use FC3 and Windows XP all the time without problem.

On Wednesday 30 July 2008 17:09, whoosh wrote: > thanks for the info, > > > looking at the Fedora 9 64bit DVD: > > the first option is: > > > vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img > > I tried > > vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img noapic nolapic > > but that also was frozen up. > > > the second option is > > vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img text > > I tried instead: > > vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img text noapic nolapic > > that is also frozen up at the: > > "disc found To begin testing the media ...." screen. > > can you suggest any other boot commands to try?

I'd try the acpi=off, but I didn't need any boot options, as far as I

to get Fedora 8, or 9 to boot, although as I said, I do see that I have appended the kernel, probably post-install. Mind you that's a different machine, different hardware to yours.

Although you have FC3 installed with no problems, I would still look in your BIOS, and see if there is an option to disable acpi, and if so, disable it, as, as I mentioned, I couldn't boot anything with acpi enabled on this mobo of mine.

Nigel. > > On 30-Jul-08 14:25:41 Nigel Henry wrote: > >On Wednesday 30 July 2008 11:29, whoosh wrote: > >> first I downloaded the Fedora Core 9 64 DVD iso, took many hours, > >> > >> but on attempting to install, it freezes up at the test media screen. > >> > >> > >> I then downloaded all the FC9 64 CD isos, tried the first one and > >> it freezes up at the test media screen. > >> > >> I tried submitting a report on the University of Kent form, but that > >> failed! > >> > >> > >> I then tried the FC9 64 net install CD and it freezes up on the > >> choose language screen. > >> > >> The PC is an AMD Sempron 64 tower, from probably 2006. I thought > >> maybe there are bugs in the early AMD64 CPUs. > >> > >> so I tried the FC9 32 net install iso, freezes up on the "Choose a > >> language" > >> > >> screen. That suggests it isnt a 64 bit bug. > >> > >> > >> > >> I tried Ubuntu 64, 8.04.1 that freezes up once the desktop appears. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> when I say freeze up I mean no response to keyboard (or mouse for > >> Ubuntu). > >> > >> > >> > >> I installed FC3 some years ago without problem, and I use FC3 and > >> Windows XP > >> > >> all the time without problem. > > > >This may not be of much help, but I recently built a new machine with an > > Asus > > > >M2N-X Plus mobo (sktAM2), and an AMD64 3800+ CPU. Nothing at all would > > boot on it, install discs, or live cd's, (keyboard, mouse, whole machine > > locked up), until I disabled acpi in the BIOS, so that may be worth a > > try. > > > >I still had a bunch of problems installing some distros. Kubuntu Gutsy > > Gibbon > > > >7.10 (live cd, with option to install on desktop once booted) booted, and > > got > > > >as far as startx, but locked up before showing the KDM splash screen. > > > >Fedora 8 installed ok, but I had problems booting post install, and had to > > do > > > >an interactive startup, as it was hanging at starting some services > >(ip6tables, and cpu frequency scaling), which I then said (NO) to during > > the interactive startup. It looks like I may have had problems also, when > > it got booted as far as startx, with locking up prior to displaying GDM > > login screen, as I see that I've appended the kernel line in > > /boot/grub/menu.lst with noapic nolapic > > > >Then I tried installing Kubuntu Breezy, which is perhaps a similar age to > > your > > >FC3, and that installed ok, using the kernel 2.6.12-9-386. Upgraded Breezy > > to > > > >Dapper, as I had the updates lying about on another disk, which gave me a > > new > > > >kernel 2.6.15-52-386. Rebooted into the new kernel, and it got as far as > >displaying KDM to login, but again everything was locked up. Well I knew > > that > > > >it booted ok with the original kernel, so tried it just to very that > > Dapper would work ok with the older kernel, and no problems. Not sure if > > I tried appending the new kernel with noapic nolapic, but if I did it > > didn't work, as > > > >I ended up booting into runlevel 1, tried startx, and the KDE desktop > > opened with no probs. So I thought I'd boot into runlevel 3, login, and > > try startx as user. Appended the kernel line with a 3 in grub, booted, > > and no runlevel 3, but now the new kernel (2.6.15) has no problems, KDM > > opens, and I login with no probs. Thats a bit weird, I know, but seems to > > indicate perhaps, that > > > >it might be a kernel related problem, all these freeze ups, as no prob > > with 2.6.12, but probs with 2.6.15, and later. > > > >Sorry for this very long post, but persevere please. > > > >Now back to Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10. I tried alsorts to try and stop it > >locking up when starting X. noapic, nolapic, acpi=off, noapic nolapic > >(together), ll to no avail. The kernel line to boot the live cd also had a > >bit "forcevesa" or something like that. I thought that should have been > > ok. The pci-E graphics card is ati, but usually vesa works ok if ati > > won't, but I > > > >did notice that the the monitors menu showed a resolution of 1640 x > >something, and my monitor uses 1024 x 768, so maybe the lockups were due > > to the monitor/graphics card being totally out of range, when trying to > > use either the vesa or ati driver with booting the live cd. > > > >I removed the forcevesa bit from the kernel line, and appended it with > >acpi=off, and booted, it got as far as starting x, tried to start it a > > couple > > > >of times, then dropped me back into text mode. Can't remember if I > > directly edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf, to change the max res to 1024 x 768, > > or if I ran dpkg --reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, but either way, once > > done a startx > > got > > >me the login screen, and I got the live cd's desktop. Clicked on the icon > > to install to harddrive, and that went ok, but I still have to append the > > kernel > > > >line in /boot/grub/menu.lst with acpi=off, otherwise the machine locks up > >when starting x. > > > >Apologies for the long post again, but there may something here that will > > you > > > >a few pointers. > > > >As I said though, nothing would boot at all, until I disabled acpi in the > >BIOS. > > > >Btw, the processor is 64 bit, but all my installed distros are 32 bit > > (i386). > > > >I also tried the 1st cd for Fedora 9 to see if there were any boot > > problems, but as a few days have passed now, and have just finished > > dl'ing disk 6 (on dialup), I can't remember any specific bootup problems > > for Fedora 9, apart from acpi needing to be disabled in the BIOS. > > > >All the best. > > > >Nigel. > > > >-- > >fedora-list mailing list > &gt;fedora-list(a)redhat.com > >To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

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first I downloaded the Fedora Core 9 64 DVD iso, took many hours, but on attempting to install, it freezes up at the test media screen. I then downloaded all the FC9 64 CD isos, tried the first one and it freezes up at the test media screen. I tried submitting a report on the University of Kent form, but that failed! I then tried the FC9 64 net install CD and it freezes up on the choose language screen. The PC is an AMD Sempron 64 tower, from probably 2006. I thought maybe there are bugs in the early AMD64 CPUs. so I tried the FC9 32 net install iso, freezes up on the "Choose a language" screen. That suggests it isnt a 64 bit bug. I tried Ubuntu 64, 8.04.1 that freezes up once the desktop appears. when I say freeze up I mean no response to keyboard (or mouse for Ubuntu). I installed FC3 some years ago without problem, and I use FC3 and Windows XP all the time without problem. I decided to look at FC8 instead, unfortunately there dont appear to be CD's, I dont want to spend 5 hours downloading the DVD and find the same freeze up problem.

On 30-Jul-08 22:35:16 Nigel Henry wrote: >On Wednesday 30 July 2008 22:03, whoosh wrote: >> I have Fedora 9 now installed. Had to do some rearranging >> >> of drives. >> >> >> with Fedora Core 3 the boot up led to a choice >> >> of desktops. >> >> >> but with Fedora 9 on booting up there is no desktop. >> >> How can I get the different desktops that FC3 has? >> >> >> thanks for any ideas

>What choices did you make for packages to install during the installation? I think I installed EVERYTHING, I allocated about 25G space for the install,

>When you say there is no desktop, what exactly do you have? its just an 80x25 text screen, no windowing, it says: ------------------------------------------------- Fedora release 9 (Sulphur) Kernel 2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64 on an x86_64 (tty1) localhost login: root Password: Last login: Thu Jul 31 16:43:04 on tty1 [root@localhost ~]# _ ----------------------------------------------------- nothing else on the screen, no windowing. I tried ctrl-F7 which the other person suggested, but no effect. >When you boot up >do you get the GDM login splashscreen, where you can login for example to >Gnome as default, or via the session button to KDE. no options, just the above ascii login. its not like FC3 where there is proper gfx. >Ok. Exactly what do you see when you bootup? Do you get as far as the GDM >login screen? rebooting just now (emailing from a different PC) I get to the GNU GRUB screen, Fedora (2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64) Other I press a to edit: grub append> ro root=UUID=8538dcc6-b610-4ec1-a6ab-26807f087478 acpi=off no changes press return, lots of ascii scrolls up the screen. pauses at: Starting udev: eventually continues, no internet connected as that is connected to this other PC, I then reach the ascii login I gave earlier in the email. >Or is everything locked up, no >or do you just have a text mode >login prompt? yes I can login, but its all ascii. no gfx

pressing the B key. B is for boot, and I'd suggest a prayer or 2, and just >maybe you will arrive at the GDM login splashscreen. I have no idea at all what GDM is.

>Post back, as it would be nice to see the problem resolved. > >All the best.

On 30-Jul-08 15:35:08 Nigel Henry wrote: >On Wednesday 30 July 2008 17:09, whoosh wrote: >> thanks for the info, >> >> >> looking at the Fedora 9 64bit DVD: >> >> the first option is: >> >> >> vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img >> >> I tried >> >> vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img noapic nolapic >> >> but that also was frozen up. >> >> >> the second option is >> >> vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img text >> >> I tried instead: >> >> vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img text noapic nolapic >> >> that is also frozen up at the: >> >> "disc found To begin testing the media ...." screen. >> >> can you suggest any other boot commands to try? > >I'd try the acpi=off, but I didn't need any boot options, as far as I remember I tried that just now and the test media screen now responds! vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img text acpi=off

>to get Fedora 8, or 9 to boot, although as I said, I do see that I have >appended the kernel, probably post-install. Mind you that's a different >machine, different hardware to yours.