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The weather report applet had recovered from whatever was happening several months ago, but lately it just displays "--". I've looked outside and there seems to be weather today. Is anyone else getting weather from the applet? Is there a fix?
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On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 08:03 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
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The weather report applet had recovered from whatever was happening several months ago, but lately it just displays "--". I've looked outside and there seems to be weather today. Is anyone else getting weather from the applet? Is there a fix?
It still works in F9 if you mean the display associated with the calendar.
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Aaron Konstam wrote:
It still works in F9 if you mean the display associated with the calendar.
Works for me fine in F10 too...
Steven Stern wrote:
The weather report applet had recovered from whatever was happening several months ago, but lately it just displays "--". I've looked outside and there seems to be weather today. Is anyone else getting weather from the applet? Is there a fix?
Try configuring it again. If I remember correctly, one of the updates wiped out the config on my system.
Mikkel
Mike Cloaked wrote:
Aaron Konstam wrote:
It still works in F9 if you mean the display associated with the calendar.
Works for me fine in F10 too...
For me, it sits in the "Updating..." state, displaying "--", every time I login on my F10 laptop. The only way to get it to work is to remove the applet from the panel, re-add it, and set all the preferences. I suspect that what is happening is that it tries to to connect before Network Manager has established my wireless connection and locks up because of some bug in handling the error. I can see that it works just fine if I have my wired ethernet connection plugged in, which connects before I log in.
Robert Nichols wrote, On 03/24/2009 11:00 AM:
Mike Cloaked wrote:
Aaron Konstam wrote:
It still works in F9 if you mean the display associated with the calendar.
Works for me fine in F10 too...
For me, it sits in the "Updating..." state, displaying "--", every time I login on my F10 laptop. The only way to get it to work is to remove the applet from the panel, re-add it, and set all the preferences. I suspect that what is happening is that it tries to to connect before Network Manager has established my wireless connection and locks up because of some bug in handling the error. I can see that it works just fine if I have my wired ethernet connection plugged in, which connects before I log in.
Have you considered filing a bug about that?
Todd Denniston wrote:
Robert Nichols wrote, On 03/24/2009 11:00 AM:
For me, it sits in the "Updating..." state, displaying "--", every time I login on my F10 laptop. The only way to get it to work is to remove the applet from the panel, re-add it, and set all the preferences. I suspect that what is happening is that it tries to to connect before Network Manager has established my wireless connection and locks up because of some bug in handling the error. I can see that it works just fine if I have my wired ethernet connection plugged in, which connects before I log in.
Have you considered filing a bug about that?
In truth, I had forgotten about it until I saw this thread and confirmed correct operation if a network connection was set up prior to login.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491955
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 15:00:46 Robert Nichols wrote:
Mike Cloaked wrote:
Aaron Konstam wrote:
It still works in F9 if you mean the display associated with the calendar.
Works for me fine in F10 too...
For me, it sits in the "Updating..." state, displaying "--", every time I login on my F10 laptop. The only way to get it to work is to remove the applet from the panel, re-add it, and set all the preferences. I suspect that what is happening is that it tries to to connect before Network Manager has established my wireless connection and locks up because of some bug in handling the error. I can see that it works just fine if I have my wired ethernet connection plugged in, which connects before I log in.
My F10 netbook is using a wireless connection, so I too find that it displays 'Loading...', but after 30 minutes, at the refresh time, it does indeed refresh. Maybe a bug report should suggest that it tries, say, 5 minutes after a failure? But then, if it fails again, would it go on trying for ever, every 5 minutes?
Anne
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 15:00:46 Robert Nichols wrote:
Mike Cloaked wrote:
Aaron Konstam wrote:
It still works in F9 if you mean the display associated with the calendar.
Works for me fine in F10 too...
For me, it sits in the "Updating..." state, displaying "--", every time I login on my F10 laptop. The only way to get it to work is to remove the applet from the panel, re-add it, and set all the preferences. I suspect that what is happening is that it tries to to connect before Network Manager has established my wireless connection and locks up because of some bug in handling the error. I can see that it works just fine if I have my wired ethernet connection plugged in, which connects before I log in.
My F10 netbook is using a wireless connection, so I too find that it displays 'Loading...', but after 30 minutes, at the refresh time, it does indeed refresh. Maybe a bug report should suggest that it tries, say, 5 minutes after a failure? But then, if it fails again, would it go on trying for ever, every 5 minutes?
On my laptop it displays "Updating...", not "Loading...", and _never_ recovers. I tried changing the update interval to 1 minute, log out, log back in, ... no change, never recovers, forever "Updating...".
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:45:12 -0500 Robert Nichols wrote:
On my laptop it displays "Updating...", not "Loading...", and _never_ recovers. I tried changing the update interval to 1 minute, log out, log back in, ... no change, never recovers, forever "Updating...".
Are you using the gweather applet, or the clock applet for your weather? (The clock applet now includes weather.)
I use the clock applet on my laptops and see exactly the same behaviour that Anne described -- after some period of time the weather shows up. Prior to that time, it doesn't show anything at all in the space beside the time.
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 20:51:33 Frank Cox wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:45:12 -0500
Robert Nichols wrote:
On my laptop it displays "Updating...", not "Loading...", and _never_ recovers. I tried changing the update interval to 1 minute, log out, log back in, ... no change, never recovers, forever "Updating...".
Are you using the gweather applet, or the clock applet for your weather? (The clock applet now includes weather.)
I use the clock applet on my laptops and see exactly the same behaviour that Anne described -- after some period of time the weather shows up. Prior to that time, it doesn't show anything at all in the space beside the time.
Hmm - maybe we're not talking about the same thing at all. The only weather applet I have is the LCD weather plasma widget. 30 minutes is the minimum time I can set the update.
Anne
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:00:27 +0000 Anne Wilson wrote:
Hmm - maybe we're not talking about the same thing at all.
Correct. We're not. There appear to be at least three "weather" doodads in common use. gweather and the Gnome clock applet are the ones that I see/use. That's two.
The only weather applet I have is the LCD weather plasma widget. 30 minutes is the minimum time I can set the update.
Since you say "plasma" I assume you mean that's a kde thing. That's three.
Frank Cox wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:00:27 +0000 Anne Wilson wrote:
Hmm - maybe we're not talking about the same thing at all.
Correct. We're not. There appear to be at least three "weather" doodads in common use. gweather and the Gnome clock applet are the ones that I see/use. That's two.
The only weather applet I have is the LCD weather plasma widget. 30 minutes is the minimum time I can set the update.
Since you say "plasma" I assume you mean that's a kde thing. That's three.
Looks like 3 applets all with variants of the same problem. I filed the bugzilla against the gweather-applet part of the gnome-applets package. That's what I'm using, and it seems to be the only one that matches the "--" display reported at the start of this thread.
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:25:34 -0500 Robert Nichols wrote:
Looks like 3 applets all with variants of the same problem.
More like 3 applets, only one of which apparently has a problem. The other two update themselves after a period of time.
I filed the bugzilla against the gweather-applet part of the gnome-applets package. That's what I'm using, and it seems to be the only one that matches the "--" display reported at the start of this thread.
Try the gnome clock applet instead. It incorporates the same functionality as gweather, and it's one less applet to run.
Robert Nichols wrote:
Frank Cox wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:00:27 +0000 Anne Wilson wrote:
Hmm - maybe we're not talking about the same thing at all.
Correct. We're not. There appear to be at least three "weather" doodads in common use. gweather and the Gnome clock applet are the ones that I see/use. That's two.
The only weather applet I have is the LCD weather plasma widget. 30 minutes is the minimum time I can set the update.
Since you say "plasma" I assume you mean that's a kde thing. That's three.
Looks like 3 applets all with variants of the same problem. I filed the bugzilla against the gweather-applet part of the gnome-applets package. That's what I'm using, and it seems to be the only one that matches the "--" display reported at the start of this thread.
That's the one I made the original post about. My PC connects via wireless, but I use network and not NetworkManager, so the network is loaded and working before I login at the GUI.
Frank Cox wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:25:34 -0500 Robert Nichols wrote:
Looks like 3 applets all with variants of the same problem.
More like 3 applets, only one of which apparently has a problem. The other two update themselves after a period of time.
I filed the bugzilla against the gweather-applet part of the gnome-applets package. That's what I'm using, and it seems to be the only one that matches the "--" display reported at the start of this thread.
Try the gnome clock applet instead. It incorporates the same functionality as gweather, and it's one less applet to run.
The clock applet lacks the Forecast and Radar Map tabs. I use those quite a bit.
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On 03/24/2009 05:50 PM, Robert Nichols wrote:
Frank Cox wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:25:34 -0500 Robert Nichols wrote:
Looks like 3 applets all with variants of the same problem.
More like 3 applets, only one of which apparently has a problem. The other two update themselves after a period of time.
I filed the bugzilla against the gweather-applet part of the gnome-applets package. That's what I'm using, and it seems to be the only one that matches the "--" display reported at the start of this thread.
Try the gnome clock applet instead. It incorporates the same functionality as gweather, and it's one less applet to run.
The clock applet lacks the Forecast and Radar Map tabs. I use those quite a bit.
And I don't see any weather, despite having checked the options.
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Robert Nichols wrote:
Frank Cox wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:00:27 +0000 Anne Wilson wrote:
Hmm - maybe we're not talking about the same thing at all.
Correct. We're not. There appear to be at least three "weather" doodads in common use. gweather and the Gnome clock applet are the ones that I see/use. That's two.
The only weather applet I have is the LCD weather plasma widget. 30 minutes is the minimum time I can set the update.
Since you say "plasma" I assume you mean that's a kde thing. That's three.
Looks like 3 applets all with variants of the same problem. I filed the bugzilla against the gweather-applet part of the gnome-applets package. That's what I'm using, and it seems to be the only one that matches the "--" display reported at the start of this thread.
I use the gnome- version with radar, and while it does catch up at the update interval, clicking the UPDATE button worked for me, to catch up if I care before it solves the problem for me.
There is an issue that checking "start at boot" on NM wireless connections doesn't seem to work, at least not on any system I've ever owned. That's why the applet can't find a network.
Bill Davidsen wrote:
I use the gnome- version with radar, and while it does catch up at the update interval, clicking the UPDATE button worked for me, to catch up if I care before it solves the problem for me.
There is an issue that checking "start at boot" on NM wireless connections doesn't seem to work, at least not on any system I've ever owned. That's why the applet can't find a network.
Neither waiting nor clicking the "Update" button work for me. The applet (gweather-applet) remains stuck in the "Updating..." state.
I am not attempting to start the wireless network at boot, only the wired ethernet, which obviously does not start if no cable is connected.
I am having the same problem as you Bob. I am using the same version of the gweather-applet.
A simple, if inelegant, workaround until the problem is fixed by the developers/maintainers is to execute "killall gnome-panel" in a terminal after the wireless network connection is made.
I also have the same problem with the clock weather applet. I check the box in preferences to "show weather" and "show temperature" but it never shows.
jamesh0317 wrote:
I am having the same problem as you Bob. I am using the same version of the gweather-applet.
A simple, if inelegant, workaround until the problem is fixed by the developers/maintainers is to execute "killall gnome-panel" in a terminal after the wireless network connection is made.
I also have the same problem with the clock weather applet. I check the box in preferences to "show weather" and "show temperature" but it never shows.
I renamed /usr/libexec/gweather-applet-2 to gweather-applet-2.x and installed this little script as gweather-applet-2:
#!/bin/bash delay=10 until /sbin/route -n | grep -q '^0.0.0.0'; do sleep $delay [ $delay -lt 60 ] && delay=$(($delay+10)) done exec /usr/libexec/gweather-applet-2.x "$@"
The next update of gnome-applets will overwrite my script with what is hopefully a fixed executable again.
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 11:17 +0200, jamesh0317 wrote:
I am having the same problem as you Bob. I am using the same version of the gweather-applet.
I've noticed some flakiness as well, but it seems to come and go.
A simple, if inelegant, workaround until the problem is fixed by the developers/maintainers is to execute "killall gnome-panel" in a terminal after the wireless network connection is made.
I've just re-selected the location in the applet preferences, and that seems to re-connect it.
I also have the same problem with the clock weather applet. I check the box in preferences to "show weather" and "show temperature" but it never shows.
Did you set the default location in the calendar pop-down?
Matthew Saltzman wrote:
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 11:17 +0200, jamesh0317 wrote:
I am having the same problem as you Bob. I am using the same version of the gweather-applet.
I've noticed some flakiness as well, but it seems to come and go.
A simple, if inelegant, workaround until the problem is fixed by the developers/maintainers is to execute "killall gnome-panel" in a terminal after the wireless network connection is made.
I've just re-selected the location in the applet preferences, and that seems to re-connect it.
I also have the same problem with the clock weather applet. I check the box in preferences to "show weather" and "show temperature" but it never shows.
Did you set the default location in the calendar pop-down?
I'm coming in very late on this thread, but what location is being set by those folks having difficulties with the weather?
I find that if I set my location with my Lat./Long. I don't see the weather, but if I set it by a major city I get some selections suggested and those suggestions I've chosen have worked. Maybe not be the case for all but my very short test failed to find one that didn't work for weather if I selected one of the suggested sites.
Obviously YMMV.
Robert Nichols wrote: I renamed /usr/libexec/gweather-applet-2 to gweather-applet-2.x and installed this little script as gweather-applet-2:
#!/bin/bash delay=10 until /sbin/route -n | grep -q '^0.0.0.0'; do sleep $delay [ $delay -lt 60 ] && delay=$(($delay+10)) done exec /usr/libexec/gweather-applet-2.x "$@"
The next update of gnome-applets will overwrite my script with what is hopefully a fixed executable again.
Much better. Thanks!
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