On 09/29/2011 03:29 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:26:44 +0200
Ralf Corsepius<rc040203(a)freenet.de> wrote:
> On 09/28/2011 03:42 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
>
>> yum groupinstall "XFCE"
>> set your desktop at gdm
Remark: I am still using F14 as regular OS, however I have F15 testing
installations (not in regular use) on 2 testing machines.
> - EFAIL screensaver
--verbose?
1) On machine #1, xscreensaver never "blackens" the screen, but
continues infinitely. It tried to tweak its settings, but no success so far.
2) On machine #1 (a netbook with intel GPU), after many hours (could be
either 12 or 24 hrs) of xscreensaver activity, the machines "deep
freezes" (no local nor remote login possible, Alt-F<X> doesn't react) -
Of course, this issue could be caused by something else, but fact is it
only happens when xscreensaver is active.
On machine #2 (a ca 10 years old PIII w/ a ca. 6 years old nvidia GPU),
xscreensaver dumps core after some time. My wild guess would be issues
with GL, because Gnome3 crashes immediately and Gnome3/fallback also
crashes after some hours. F14/Gnome2 had worked flawlessly.
Hopefully you aren't trying to use gnome-screensaver.
xscreensaver should work fine.
It's xscreensaver.
> - EFAIL set desktop background
Works fine here.
OK, I will try to recheck - May-be I missed something or may-be
something has changed.
> - EFAIL terminal sizing (Fix lingering in testing)
That issue affects gnome-terminal, and yes, there's a fix in testing.
Xfce Terminal works fine and always has. ;)
After ca. 10 years of using Gnome, I so
far prefer using gnome-terminal
and am trying to stay with nautilus w/ xfce :)
> - Sporadic -EFAIL restoring desktop.
There's been some reports of this. I have been unable to isolate it.
Somehow the window manager crashes on logout and the session gets saved
without it. There's an upstream bug open on it... more information
welcome.
OK. I also can't reproduce it deterministically.
Two other issues, I haven't mentioned yet:
* xfce's interaction with NetworkManager.
The NM configuration I was using under F14/Gnome2 and F15/Gnome3 did not
work with F15/xfce. I had to change it to get it working with xfce.
* How to get rid of gdm and what to replace it with?
Gdm had always been a major nuissance, which had never worked
flawlessly, so I am inclined to use switching to xfce as an oportunty to
get rid of it, as well.
>> End of problem
>
> Start of new problems ;)
Sadly, all software has issues. ;)
Inevitably ;)
Ralf