On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Alex mysqlstudent@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, Does anyone know what happened to the Shilling cdrecord? I've tried to

download it from several locations, and the domain appears to no longer exist.

How are people burning BD-R media these days?

These links no longer exists: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html

Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks, Alex

See http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/schily-2014-06-12.tar.bz2/...

On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Stephen Morris samorris@netspace.net.au wrote:

Hi, I undertook a search for the string blueray in both yum and dnf and both, in my view, behaved strangely.

From yum I received the following messages:

yum search Blueray Loaded plugins: aliases, axelget, changelog, fastestmirror, filter-data, keys, langpacks, list-data, merge-conf, post-transaction-actions, priorities, protectbase, ps, puppetverify, refresh- : packagekit, refresh-updatesd, remove-with-leaves, rpm-warm-cache, show-leaves, tmprepo, tsflags, upgrade-helper, verify, versionlock No metadata available for Cairo-Dock No metadata available for adobe-linux-i386 No metadata available for adobe-linux-x86_64 No metadata available for fedora No metadata available for fedora-HandBrake No metadata available for google-chrome No metadata available for rpm-sphere No metadata available for rpmfusion-free No metadata available for rpmfusion-free-updates No metadata available for rpmfusion-nonfree No metadata available for rpmfusion-nonfree-updates No metadata available for russianfedora-free No metadata available for russianfedora-free-updates No metadata available for updates Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile

• fedora: ftp.swin.edu.au
• rpmfusion-free: rpmfusion.mirror.uber.com.au
• rpmfusion-free-updates: rpmfusion.mirror.uber.com.au
• rpmfusion-nonfree: rpmfusion.mirror.uber.com.au
• rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: rpmfusion.mirror.uber.com.au
• russianfedora-free: node03g.mirror.yandex.net
• russianfedora-free-updates: node03g.mirror.yandex.net
• updates: ftp.swin.edu.au

0 packages excluded due to repository protections Warning: No matches found for: Blueray No matches found

Why is yum not loading the metadata for all the repositories when it

doesn't have any?

From dnf I got the following messages:

dnf search Blueray Cairo-Dock repository 29 kB/s | 33 kB 00:01 Open source multiplatform video transcoder 6.6 kB/s | 5.7 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 20 - Free - Updates 378 kB/s | 373 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 20 - Nonfree - Updates 318 kB/s | 106 kB 00:00 Adobe Systems Incorporated 2.3 kB/s | 1.8 kB 00:00 Adobe Systems Incorporated 2.6 kB/s | 1.8 kB 00:00 Fedora 20 - x86_64 - Updates 531 kB/s | 23 MB 00:45 Russian Fedora for Fedora 20 - Free - Updates 64 kB/s | 107 kB 00:01 google-chrome 9.2 kB/s | 3.0 kB 00:00 Russian Fedora for Fedora 20 - Free 64 kB/s | 83 kB 00:01 RPM Sphere 398 kB/s | 6.0 MB 00:15 Warning: No matches found for: Blueray Error: No Matches found

As can be seen from the above dnf refreshed the metadata where yum

didn't, but why has dnf flagged no matches as an error when yum doesn't. Also, why do both of them issue the 'not found' message twice, once is sufficient?

regards, Steve

​I saw the same output yesterday. ​

On 06/23/2014 07:02 PM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:

On 06/23/2014 12:49 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:

...

Hi, I undertook a search for the string blueray in both yum and dnf and both, in my view, behaved strangely.

 From yum I received the following messages:

yum search Blueray

<snip>

This doesn't deal with yum/dnf messages, but if you're looking for bluray packages, perhaps 'yum search bluray' would work better?

I apologise for my previous mail, I was trying to get that as a separate thread and failed big time. I issued the commands yum search bluray dnf search bluray smart search bluray all of which use the same set of repositories, and yum and dnf found libbluray packages, but nothing that was a bluray gui front end, but smart showed a couple of additional packages, one of which I actually have installed (which was Handbrake). Does this mean that yum and dnf only search non-installed package descriptions/names?

regards, Steve

Jonathan

Alex wrote:

Hi, Does anyone know what happened to the Shilling cdrecord? I've tried to download it from several locations, and the domain appears to no longer exist.

How are people burning BD-R media these days?

These links no longer exists: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html

It seems as Jörg Schilling's cdrecord is (after closing BerliOS hosting service, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlios ) now hosted on SourceForge ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdrtools/ ) and cdrecord sources can be downloaded also there ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdrtools/files/alpha/ ) or as part of a larger software package 'Schily Tools' also at SF ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/ ). Original historic cdrecord web site http://cdrecord.org/ still exist, but is outdated.

I personally use cdrecord and compile the RPM packages, for F19 i386 I have them at http://www.hanzlici.cz/packages/fedora/cdrtools/fc19/ (I do not use Fedora 20 yet). But You perhaps can download and rebuild SRPMS cdrecord package (or download source from SF and use only my SPEC file to build RPM, etc)

Franta Hanzlik

Allegedly, on or about 26 June 2014, Stephen Morris sent:

neither yum nor dnf, both of which give the same results, didn't suggest to try a further search, but I would have thought that as a minimum they would have searched installed packages first. It is completely illogical to me for a product to do a search for specified functionality and not tell you that functionality is provided by something you already have installed.

For what it's worth, it searches the yum database for matches. The yum database contains information on all packages, installed, or not. If the database hasn't been recently cached (the definition of recent can be configured by you), then it will update the cache, first.

I'm currently booted up on an older installation, but when I did "yum search music" it returned a list of applications that have some *music* keyword in some of their metadata. And, the last line of the results said:

Name and summary matches only, use "search all" for everything.

And the results included things I have installed, those these results don't indicate whether its results are uninstalled, or installed. If you did a subsequent yum info packagename, on anything that caught your interest, that would show whether it was installed (in this example, the "repo" line either shows where you can get it from, or that it's installed).

Then I did a test to search for something that will produce no results, I tried the following command line, and got the following results:

yum search giraffe Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Warning: No matches found for: giraffe No Matches found

I'm surprised that it didn't tag on the use search all message. Perhaps it would be good if it falls back on doing yum search all, for you, if there was no results. Though, that could be a nuisance, in itself.

On 06/27/2014 08:01 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 06/27/2014 12:35 AM, Tim wrote:

...

Allegedly, on or about 26 June 2014, Stephen Morris sent:

...

neither yum nor dnf, both of which give the same results, didn't suggest to try a further search, but I would have thought that as a minimum they would have searched installed packages first. It is completely illogical to me for a product to do a search for specified functionality and not tell you that functionality is provided by something you already have installed.

For what it's worth, it searches the yum database for matches. The yum database contains information on all packages, installed, or not. If the database hasn't been recently cached (the definition of recent can be configured by you), then it will update the cache, first.

I'm currently booted up on an older installation, but when I did "yum search music" it returned a list of applications that have some *music* keyword in some of their metadata. And, the last line of the results said:

Name and summary matches only, use "search all" for everything.

And the results included things I have installed, those these results don't indicate whether its results are uninstalled, or installed. If you did a subsequent yum info packagename, on anything that caught your interest, that would show whether it was installed (in this example, the "repo" line either shows where you can get it from, or that it's installed).

Then I did a test to search for something that will produce no results, I tried the following command line, and got the following results:

yum search giraffe Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Warning: No matches found for: giraffe No Matches found

I'm surprised that it didn't tag on the use search all message. Perhaps it would be good if it falls back on doing yum search all, for you, if there was no results. Though, that could be a nuisance, in itself.

Hi Tim, I have tried the searches again with dnf and smart and as can be seen from the output, dnf did not suggest to use search all, nor did it show Handbrake in its list as smart did, and when I issue the info command on Handbrake from dnf it showed that Handbrake is indeed installed. Given that it appears that in my environment it is behaving differently to your environment, am I missing something that should be installed?

[steve@home-desktop ~]$ dnf search bluray Cairo-Dock repository 22 kB/s | 33 kB 00:01 Open source multiplatform video transcoder 6.4 kB/s | 5.7 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 20 - Free - Updates 360 kB/s | 373 kB 00:01 RPM Fusion for Fedora 20 - Nonfree - Updates 284 kB/s | 106 kB 00:00 RPM Fusion for Fedora 20 - Free 392 kB/s | 487 kB 00:01 Adobe Systems Incorporated 2.5 kB/s | 1.8 kB 00:00 Adobe Systems Incorporated 2.1 kB/s | 1.8 kB 00:00 Fedora 20 - x86_64 - Updates 562 kB/s | 24 MB 00:42 Russian Fedora for Fedora 20 - Free - Updates 74 kB/s | 108 kB 00:01 google-chrome 8.1 kB/s | 3.5 kB 00:00 Russian Fedora for Fedora 20 - Free 61 kB/s | 83 kB 00:01 RPM Fusion for Fedora 20 - Nonfree 431 kB/s | 289 kB 00:00 RPM Sphere 320 kB/s | 6.0 MB 00:19 ======================================================================================== N/S Matched: bluray ======================================================================================== libbluray-bdj.x86_64 : BDJ support for libbluray libbluray-java.x86_64 : BDJ support for libbluray libbluray-utils.x86_64 : Test utilities for libbluray libbluray-devel.x86_64 : Development files for libbluray libbluray-devel.i686 : Development files for libbluray libbluray.x86_64 : Library to access Blu-Ray disks for video playback libbluray.i686 : Library to access Blu-Ray disks for video playback [steve@home-desktop ~]$ smart search bluray Loading cache... Updating cache... ############################################################################################################### [100%]

HandBrake-cli - An open-source multiplatform video transcoder (CLI) HandBrake-gui - An open-source multiplatform video transcoder (GUI) libbluray - Library to access Blu-Ray disks for video playback libbluray - Library to access Blu-Ray disks for video playback libbluray - Library to access Blu-Ray disks for video playback libbluray - Library to access Blu-Ray disks for video playback libbluray - Library to access Blu-Ray disks for video playback libbluray - Library to access Blu-Ray disks for video playback libbluray-bdj - BDJ support for libbluray libbluray-bdj - BDJ support for libbluray libbluray-devel - Development files for libbluray libbluray-devel - Development files for libbluray libbluray-devel - Development files for libbluray libbluray-devel - Development files for libbluray libbluray-devel - Development files for libbluray libbluray-java - BDJ support for libbluray libbluray-java - BDJ support for libbluray libbluray-utils - Test utilities for libbluray libbluray-utils - Test utilities for libbluray serviio - A free media server

[steve@home-desktop ~]$ dnf info HandBrake-cli Installed Packages Name : HandBrake-cli Arch : x86_64 Epoch : 0 Version : 0.9.9 Release : 12.fc20 Size : 1.4 M Repo : @System Summary : An open-source multiplatform video transcoder (CLI) URL : http://handbrake.fr/ License : GPLv2+ Description : HandBrake is a general-purpose, free, open-source, cross-platform, multithreaded video transcoder software application. It can process most common multimedia files and any DVD or : Bluray sources that do not contain any kind of copy protection. This package contains the command line version of the program.

[steve@home-desktop ~]$ dnf info serviio Available Packages Name : serviio Arch : noarch Epoch : 0 Version : 0.6.2 Release : 22.3 Size : 13 M Repo : rpm-sphere Summary : A free media server URL : http://www.serviio.org/ License : Free to use Description : It allows you to stream your media files (music, video or images) to renderer devices (e.g. a TV set, Bluray player, games console or mobile phone) on your connected home network.

regards, Steve

Just further to this mail, I just tried the search again with yum and it did suggest using search all where dnf did not. Yum also refreshed 3 of the repositories that dnf had refreshed as well.

regards, Steve