1:44 p.m.
Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while it had
two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly simplified.
Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed? Can I add
it with yum? Some other way?
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
2:56 p.m.
--- On Sun, 6/29/08, Beartooth <Beartooth(a)swva.net> wrote:
From: Beartooth <Beartooth(a)swva.net>
Subject: Hardware browser??
To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 11:44 AM
Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while
it had
two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly
simplified.
Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed?
Can I add
it with yum? Some other way?
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
--
You can use smolt :)
$ smoltSendProfile
tyoe
$smolt<press tab>
choice(s) SendProfile DeleteProfile should appear.
It will place smolt profile in a webpage with your hardware.
I have sent my profile and my hardware is at
http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_4ed3ce67-7e8a-47b7-ab87-f233baa29848 (public)
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Antonio
4:36 p.m.
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 18:44 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while it had
two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly simplified.
Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed? Can I add
it with yum? Some other way?
yum install lshw-gui
should see you sorted.
Frank
10:16 a.m.
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:36:53 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 18:44 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
> Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while it had
> two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly simplified.
>
> Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed? Can I add
> it with yum? Some other way?
>
>
yum install lshw-gui
should see you sorted.
Hmm ... Neat name, impressive command; but is there a way to make
it usable by subtechnoids? Can I pipe the -xml or -html options into a
browser, for instance? Or something into baobab for it to use as labels?
Most recent example : I got the livna display configuration kmod-
nvidia stuff, and it helped; but it didn't tell me whether to use the
nvidia configurator or the livna one, or both; and the livna page warned
me that I might have any of several cards.
I'd like to check that last, and tackle it again. One of the old
hardware browsers, iirc, would have enabled even me to find out what
video card I have. (An electronic friend is kind enough to assemble
machines to meet my budget, every year or three; but I never needed to
know one video card from another -- till I got this blankety-blank new
monitor ...)
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
10:30 a.m.
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:16 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:36:53 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 18:44 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
>> Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while it had
>> two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly simplified.
>>
>> Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed? Can I add
>> it with yum? Some other way?
>>
>>
> yum install lshw-gui
>
> should see you sorted.
Hmm ... Neat name, impressive command; but is there a way to make
it usable by subtechnoids? Can I pipe the -xml or -html options into a
browser, for instance? Or something into baobab for it to use as labels?
No idea badbob etc.. but lshw-gui will tell you make of card, model of
moderboard in simple english, either through the GUI "Hardware Lister"
or the cli as roor lshw
#lshw
<snip>
*-display UNCLAIMED
description: VGA compatible controller
product: G70 [GeForce 7600 GS]
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
version: a1
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller
bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
</snip>
Frank
12:16 p.m.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:30:41 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
#lshw
<snip>
*-display UNCLAIMED
description: VGA compatible controller product: G70
[GeForce 7600 GS]
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
version: a1
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller
bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
</snip>
OK, I'm glad to know it can be done. But do I really have to slog
through that enormous, incomprehensible output line by line?
I tried
===== ===== =====
[root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep vga
[root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep video
[root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep unclaimed
and even
[root@localhost btth]# roor lshw
-bash: roor: command not found
[root@localhost btth]#
===== ===== =====
But, as you see, they all just ran, and gave me no output at all.
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
12:27 p.m.
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 17:16 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:30:41 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
===== ===== =====
[root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep vga
[root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep video
[root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep unclaimed
and even
[root@localhost btth]# roor lshw
-bash: roor: command not found
[root@localhost btth]#
well roor was a typo for root. (sorry)
===== ===== =====
But, as you see, they all just ran, and gave me no output at all.
try:# lshw -short|grep display
1:03 p.m.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:53:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 17:16 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
> [root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep vga [root@localhost btth]# lshw
> -short|grep video [root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep unclaimed
Try 'grep -i'
===== ===== =====
[root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep -i "compatible controller"
[root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep -i unclaimed
[root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep -i video
/0/100/1/0 display K8M890 [Chrome9]
Integrated Video
[root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep -i vga
[root@localhost btth]#
===== ===== =====
(Nothing else got any feedback.) Does that tell us anything??
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
1:09 p.m.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:27:00 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 17:16 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:30:41 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
> ===== ===== =====
> [root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep vga [root@localhost btth]# lshw
> -short|grep video [root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep unclaimed
>
> and even
>
> [root@localhost btth]# roor lshw
> -bash: roor: command not found
> [root@localhost btth]#
well roor was a typo for root. (sorry)
So I had assumed -- but tried it anyway.
> ===== ===== =====
>
> But, as you see, they all just ran, and gave me no output at all.
try:# lshw -short|grep display
===== ===== =====
[root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep -i vga
[root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep display
/0/100/1/0 display K8M890 [Chrome9]
Integrated Video
[root@localhost btth]# lshw -short|grep -i display
/0/100/1/0 display K8M890 [Chrome9]
Integrated Video
[root@localhost btth]#
===== ===== =====
I tried google linux on K8K890 and Chrome9, but if there's help
there, it's over my head ...
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
1:13 p.m.
Hi Beartooth;
I am answering this at the risk of offending you.
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:16 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:36:53 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 18:44 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
>> Fedora always used to have a hardware browser; for a while it had
>> two, one with endless cryptic detail, and one highly simplified.
>>
>> Now I find neither. Has it (or have they) been renamed? Can I add
>> it with yum? Some other way?
>>
>>
> yum install lshw-gui
>
> should see you sorted.
Hmm ... Neat name, impressive command; but is there a way to make
it usable by subtechnoids? Can I pipe the -xml or -html options into a
browser, for instance? Or something into baobab for it to use as labels?
Most recent example : I got the livna display configuration kmod-
nvidia stuff, and it helped; but it didn't tell me whether to use the
nvidia configurator or the livna one, or both; and the livna page warned
me that I might have any of several cards.
I'd like to check that last, and tackle it again. One of the old
hardware browsers, iirc, would have enabled even me to find out what
video card I have. (An electronic friend is kind enough to assemble
machines to meet my budget, every year or three; but I never needed to
know one video card from another -- till I got this blankety-blank new
monitor ...)
Because of the advice given in response to your original post and
wanting a hardware browser myself, I downloaded and installed lshw-gui.
A little confusing at first, the display needs to be better configured.
Are you clicking on each of the components to get the details ?
(i.e. It's parts tree is horizontal rather than verical)
Sorry to take up your time, if you already understood this.
--
Regards Bill;
Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2
Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1
1:14 p.m.
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 18:09 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
===== ===== =====
I tried google linux on K8K890 and Chrome9, but if there's help
there, it's over my head ...
http://www.logix.cz/michal/devel/suse-openchrome/index.xp?show_selected=1...
Frank
1:27 p.m.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:14:28 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 18:09 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
> ===== ===== =====
>
> I tried google linux on K8K890 and Chrome9, but if there's help
> there, it's over my head ...
>
>
http://www.logix.cz/michal/devel/suse-openchrome/index.xp?
show_selected=1&msgid=1090
Hmmm ... Noticing that was for SUSE of some sort, I went to
rpmfind, searched fedora i386, and got this (with a minor excess) :
===== ===== =====
[root@localhost btth]# ls|grep openchrome
xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.902-7.fc9.i386.rpm
[root@localhost btth]# ls|grep openchrome
xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.902-3.fc8.i386.rpm
xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.902-7.fc9.i386.rpm
[root@localhost btth]# rpm -ivh xorg-x11-drv-
openchrome-0.2.902-3.fc8.i386.rpm
Preparing...
########################################### [100%]
1:xorg-x11-drv-openchrome
########################################### [100%]
[root@localhost btth]#
===== ===== =====
So will either an upgrade with my original F9 DVD, or "yum
upgrade" handle that? Or will I have to re-install the rpmfind download?
And how do I use it? Just log out and in? Run the livna
configurator again? Some other configurator?
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
1:33 p.m.
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 18:27 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:14:28 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 18:09 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
>
>> ===== ===== =====
>>
>> I tried google linux on K8K890 and Chrome9, but if there's help
>> there, it's over my head ...
>>
>>
> http://www.logix.cz/michal/devel/suse-openchrome/index.xp?
show_selected=1&msgid=1090
So will either an upgrade with my original F9 DVD, or "yum
upgrade" handle that? Or will I have to re-install the rpmfind download?
And how do I use it? Just log out and in? Run the livna
configurator again? Some other configurator?
* Fedora :
* Fedora Core 2 up to Fedora Core 6 :
http://washington.kelkoo.net/epia
* Fedora 7 and newer : just run 'yum install
xorg-x11-drv-openchrome'.
* Fedora 9 and newer : openchrome is the default driver for VIA
IGPs.
1:35 p.m.
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 18:27 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
Sorry hit reply too quick.
afaict.
livna can not control via graphics.
Just use the display applet.
(Open to correction)
FRank
1:39 p.m.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:13:41 -0400, William Case wrote:
Hi Beartooth;
I am answering this at the risk of offending you.
On the contrary! Many thanks!
When in doubt, assume I *have* missed something; as the Boomers
retire and escape the Gates of Hell, there will be accelerating numbers
of people needing the same things -- even when I do know or have seen, as
was not the case here. You're a great help!
Because of the advice given in response to your original post and
wanting a hardware browser myself, I downloaded and installed lshw-gui.
A little confusing at first, the display needs to be better configured.
Are you clicking on each of the components to get the details ?
(i.e. It's parts tree is horizontal rather than vertical)
No, in fact I hadn't. I certainly wondered why the display was so
sparse, but a horizontal tree is new to me (at least if it's an
electronic tree).
So I tried lshw, lshw-gui, and lshw-gui &; but no combination of
left clicks, right clicks, and hitting enter with either of the latter
two got me any more than a tiny yellow box saying "This pane
displays .... <whatever>" (I have all machines set to single-click, in
case that matters.) And I get that much (more than I had before) just by
hovering the cursor.
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
2:10 p.m.
Beartooth wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:13:41 -0400, William Case wrote:
> Hi Beartooth;
>
> I am answering this at the risk of offending you.
>
On the contrary! Many thanks!
When in doubt, assume I *have* missed something; as the Boomers
retire and escape the Gates of Hell, there will be accelerating numbers
of people needing the same things -- even when I do know or have seen, as
was not the case here. You're a great help!
> Because of the advice given in response to your original post and
> wanting a hardware browser myself, I downloaded and installed lshw-gui.
> A little confusing at first, the display needs to be better configured.
>
> Are you clicking on each of the components to get the details ?
>
> (i.e. It's parts tree is horizontal rather than vertical)
>
No, in fact I hadn't. I certainly wondered why the display was so
sparse, but a horizontal tree is new to me (at least if it's an
electronic tree).
So I tried lshw, lshw-gui, and lshw-gui &; but no combination of
left clicks, right clicks, and hitting enter with either of the latter
two got me any more than a tiny yellow box saying "This pane
displays .... <whatever>" (I have all machines set to single-click, in
case that matters.) And I get that much (more than I had before) just by
hovering the cursor.
Mine is set to single-click as well but, in this gui, I had to
double-click the *bold* entries to get down into the meat of the
information.
Pretty cool tool.
K
2:27 p.m.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:33:01 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 18:27 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
[...]
> So will either an upgrade with my original F9 DVD, or "yum
> upgrade" handle that? Or will I have to re-install the rpmfind
> download?
> And how do I use it? Just log out and in? Run the livna
> configurator again? Some other configurator?
* Fedora :
* Fedora Core 2 up to Fedora Core 6 :
http://washington.kelkoo.net/epia
* Fedora 7 and newer : just run 'yum install
xorg-x11-drv-openchrome'.
* Fedora 9 and newer : openchrome is the default driver for VIA
IGPs.
Well, I started with a small goof, misremembering for a moment
which OS is on which machine. I don't *think* that made trouble -- I
installed from rpmfind, and yum install just says xorg-x11-drv-openchrome
is already there.
Anyway on PC #1 (F8) I ran the Display applet; it let me change
the hardware seting (to generic LCD 1680x1050; my HP w2207h is not listed
under HP yet), but not the display setting.
I logged out and back in. The display is distinctly better -- but
clicking the applet launcher does nothing. Large UH-OH.
So I tried the CLI, and got this (with no display) :
===== ===== =====
[root@localhost ~]# system-config-display &
[1] 28747
[root@localhost ~]# Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 381, in <module>
dialog = xConfigDialog.XConfigDialog(hardware_state, xconfig,
rhpxl.videocard.VideoCardInfo())
File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.py", line 533, in
__init__
self.state.recalc_mode()
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/rhpxl/xhwstate.py", line 387, in
recalc_mode
self.colordepth = availableDepth[-1]
IndexError: list index out of range
[1]+ Done system-config-display
===== ===== =====
That "out of range" warning is deadly.
I tried another twist :
===== ===== =====
[btth@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display
[....]
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
ModelName "LCD Panel 1280x1024"
HorizSync 31.5 - 64.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 65.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "vesa"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
[btth@localhost ~]$
===== ===== =====
I'd be pretty sure rebooting, or even logging out and in, would
render the machine useless -- but how can xorg.conf be still set to
1280x1024??
And how can I rescue this install??
Here I thought I was cruisin' to a smooth upgrade ....
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
2:37 p.m.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:10:23 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
Beartooth wrote:
[....]
Mine is set to single-click as well but, in this gui, I had to
double-click the *bold* entries to get down into the meat of the
information.
[...]
Curiouser and curiouser : that doesn't work here. I can highlight
them and then click, double-click, or hit enter -- and that doesn't help,
either. The display disappears for a few seconds in favor of the word
"scanning"; but it then comes back unchanged.
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2:41 p.m.
Beartooth wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:10:23 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
> Beartooth wrote:
>
[....]
> Mine is set to single-click as well but, in this gui, I had to
> double-click the *bold* entries to get down into the meat of the
> information.
>
[...]
Curiouser and curiouser : that doesn't work here. I can highlight
them and then click, double-click, or hit enter -- and that doesn't help,
either. The display disappears for a few seconds in favor of the word
"scanning"; but it then comes back unchanged.
Are you running the lshw-gui as root?
Kevin
3:05 p.m.
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 19:27 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
look under /var/log/Xorg.0.log
it will give you a lot of info about your monitor and card.
If your unsure what to look for.
Start a new tread with maybe subject: help with setting up graphics/
Frank
3:48 p.m.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:41:23 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
Beartooth wrote:
[...]
> Curiouser and curiouser : that doesn't work here. I can
highlight
> them and then click, double-click, or hit enter -- and that doesn't
> help, either. The display disappears for a few seconds in favor of the
> word "scanning"; but it then comes back unchanged.
Are you running the lshw-gui as root?
Yes. Shouldn't I be? When I try it as user, it starts off with
the little pop-up that so many things use, asking for root's password.
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
4 p.m.
Beartooth wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:41:23 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
> Beartooth wrote:
>
[...]
>> Curiouser and curiouser : that doesn't work here. I can highlight
>> them and then click, double-click, or hit enter -- and that doesn't
>> help, either. The display disappears for a few seconds in favor of the
>> word "scanning"; but it then comes back unchanged.
>>
> Are you running the lshw-gui as root?
>
Yes. Shouldn't I be? When I try it as user, it starts off with
the little pop-up that so many things use, asking for root's password.
No, I would expect that you would /have/ to run it as root in order to
collect all the information. When you start it up for the first time
does it show scanning in the upper right pane and show what's being
scanned in the message bar lower-left? Then does it show computer in
the left hand pane when it's done?
K
4:19 p.m.
Hi Beartooth;
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 20:48 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:41:23 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
> Beartooth wrote:
[...]
>> Curiouser and curiouser : that doesn't work here. I can highlight
>> them and then click, double-click, or hit enter -- and that doesn't
>> help, either. The display disappears for a few seconds in favor of the
>> word "scanning"; but it then comes back unchanged.
> Are you running the lshw-gui as root?
Yes. Shouldn't I be? When I try it as user, it starts off with
the little pop-up that so many things use, asking for root's password.
Yes, that is what is supposed to happen.
You should see a small window (less than 1/4 of your screen) pop up. On
my system it has four columns; the left column says "Desktop Computer";
the next two columns are empty; the fourth (right-most) column has very
basic data about the Desktop computer.
If I double click on the left-hand "Desktop computer" in column two I
"Motherboard" and "Ethernet interface" are added. Double clicking on
"Ethernet interface" gives me the data about the Ethernet interface in
the right-most column.
Double clicking on the "Motherboard" adds a whole list of motherboard
components to the third column. Single clicking moves columns leftward,
double clicking adds info to the fourth column. And so it goes ...
If it's working, play with it to see all the possible data
presentations. If it is not working as outlined above -- you've got a
bug or some very very weird equipment. (That doesn't seem likely from
what you have described).
The gui could use some basic column titles and the ability to widen or
narrow the columns. Practice using the little right pointing wedges to
get additional info and using the up bottom on the tool bar to undue.
--
Regards Bill;
Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2
Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1
8:47 a.m.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:19:34 -0400, William Case wrote:
Hi Beartooth;
Hi, Bill!
You should see a small window (less than 1/4 of your screen) pop up.
On
my system it has four columns; the left column says "Desktop Computer";
the next two columns are empty; the fourth (right-most) column has very
basic data about the Desktop computer.
Yes, I do.
If I double click on the left-hand "Desktop computer" in
column two I
"Motherboard" and "Ethernet interface" are added. Double clicking
on
"Ethernet interface" gives me the data about the Ethernet interface in
the right-most column.
*That's* where the dog is buried!
Yes, I just discovered this morning that it's not enough to click
on the bolded stuff. You have to start all the way to the upper left, and
open layers (or branches, or whatever they're called) from there.
I had been trying to start, as seemed natural to me, in the
rightmost column; and all it ever did there was re-scan.
Double clicking on the "Motherboard" adds a whole list of
motherboard
components to the third column. Single clicking moves columns leftward,
double clicking adds info to the fourth column. And so it goes ...
Yes. Now I just have to figure out what people who speak hardware
call a video card, and flounder around till I stumble on it, or so I
presume.
If it's working, play with it to see all the possible data
presentations. If it is not working as outlined above -- you've got a
bug or some very very weird equipment. (That doesn't seem likely from
what you have described).
What you don't know can hurt you; but what really makes trouble
is what you think you know (like where to click) that ain't so.
The gui could use some basic column titles and the ability to widen
or
narrow the columns. Practice using the little right pointing wedges to
get additional info and using the up bottom on the tool bar to undue.
It sure could. But I think I can get what I need now, eventually.
Many thanks for the clue!
--
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
nine (count 'em -- nine) different browsers
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
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