On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 5:03 PM Sbob <sbob(a)quadratum-braccas.com&gt; wrote: I had trouble running VirtualBox on Fedora 39. I could not get the kernel modules to build correctly. But it happened around the time of F39 release, so that may have changed by now. I switched to QEMU/KVM/libvirt. The nice thing about these packages are, they are supported by the kernel out-of-the-box. You don't have to putz around with tainted modules or signing kernel modules. I don't know how well QEMU/KVM/libvirt handle other disk images, like from VMware. Jeff

On 11/30/23 23:11, Thomas Dineen wrote: Hi Thomas, The OSx license states that you can only run it in a virtual machine is you first run it on Mac hardware. So you have to purchase a Mac and install Fedora on it, then run OSx in a VM. There are OSx hacks (Hackintosh), that you can run in a VM, but they are illegal. OSx does not play well with the other kiddies in the sand box. It is an Apple thing. Best to "rent-a-Mac" VM online to test things Mac. -T

How is the virtual networking in QEMU/KVM/libvirt? can I just click into settings and 'add' a network interface? On 12/1/23 01:17, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 11/30/23 23:04, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> I don't know how well QEMU/KVM/libvirt handle other disk images, like >> from VMware. > > I have done it. > > > My Keeper: > > References: > http://serverfault.com/questions/273982/virt-convert-ovf-to-kvm >     http://edoceo.com/notabene/ova-to-vmdk-to-qcow2 >     http://wiki.hackzine.org/sysadmin/kvm-import-ova.html > > > > Converting OVA for use with KVM / QCOW2 > > The OVA file is nothing more than a TAR archive, containing the .OVF > and .VMDK files. Easy! > > Using Evergreen ILS for example: > > ~ $ file Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova > Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova:                POSIX tar archive (GNU) > > I'ts possible to use the tar command to list the contents > > ~ $ tar -tf Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova > Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ovf > Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk > > Simply extract those things... > > ~ $ tar -xvf Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova > Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ovf > Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk > > Now take a look at the created files The OVF XML file describes the > image, it makes for some interesting reading about the expectations of > the running environment. > > ~ $ file Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze* > Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk: VMware4 disk image > Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova:        POSIX tar archive (GNU) > Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ovf:        XML document text > > Recent versions of qemu are able to run directly from the VMDK file, > buy why do that? Use QCOW2, it's better. Execute: qemu-img -h and the > last line of output shows the supported formats. > > ~ $ qemu-img -h |tail -n1 > Supported formats: raw cow qcow vdi vmdk cloop dmg bochs vpc vvfat > qcow2 parallels nbd blkdebug sheepdog host_cdrom host_floppy > host_device file > > Now actually convert it, this may take some time. > > ~ $ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk > Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.qcow2 > -- > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue

can I run OSX in QEMU/KVM/libvirt? Does the same mac unlocker work? On 12/1/23 19:11, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 12/1/23 15:32, Sbob wrote: >> How is the virtual networking in QEMU/KVM/libvirt? can I just click >> into settings and 'add' a network interface? > > Yes.  Lots of options > > https://imgur.com/sOgQTvW.png > -- > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue

On 12/2/23 10:50, Sbob wrote: Also, I might add, I have been doing consulting for 29 years now. I have never once need an OSx computer to play on. Their on line documentation is excellent. On the other hand, most of the OSx work I have done for customers has not been that complicated. A few things yes, but mostly no. And power OSx users never call me and they can do it themselves.

If you're still not interested in the QEMU/Libvirt route, this news may interest you, might lead to better compatibility. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39300317 On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 5:03 PM Sbob <sbob(a)quadratum-braccas.com&gt; wrote: > > All; > > > I am running Fedora39, I have run VMware workstation for years, and I > have on and off had issues since VMware does not officially support > Fedora, normally I run a patch after each kernel update and it mostly > just works. > > I am also running the osx unlocker so I can run mac VM's > > > I recently tried virtualbox on a spare laptop, havent looked at > virtualbox in years, and I was impressed, a few questions for the community: > > - can I run the osx unlocker with virtualbox? > > > - does virtualbox have the same issues where it needs a patch after > each kernel and sometimes > just breaks with a new kernel , even with the patch? >