9:04 p.m.
Is there a list anywhere of supported hardware for gnome-shell? I've
tried it on 3 computers so far and none of them work. The first was
VMWare which I've seen isn't supported so I wrote that off. The second
was a dell optiplex 790 with on-board intel accelerated graphics. The
final one is an optiplex 960 with a Radeon HD 3450 in it. Is there
something wrong with the setup or is gnome-shell really that selective
about hardware even after its been in two Fedora releases?
Dave
4:41 p.m.
On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 22:19 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Dave Quigley writes:
> Is there a list anywhere of supported hardware for gnome-shell? I've tried
It's the same as the list of supported 3D hardware for x.org, on
http://mesa.freedesktop.org, which seems to be down right now.
It has been down for the laast month which is frustrating.
In addition to that, you also have the additional option of gaining
3D by
installing your hardware vendor's binary blob. If it works with x.org,
great. If not, you're on your own.
> it on 3 computers so far and none of them work. The first was VMWare which
> I've seen isn't supported so I wrote that off. The second was a dell
> optiplex 790 with on-board intel accelerated graphics. The final one is an
> optiplex 960 with a Radeon HD 3450 in it. Is there something wrong with the
> setup or is gnome-shell really that selective about hardware even after its
> been in two Fedora releases?
gnome-shell itself doesn't care, it just uses x.org. If x.org runs, and
gives 3D capability, that's all that gnome-shell cares about.
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3:23 p.m.
So if the expected result is for me to have a working gnome shell I
wonder if it might be something screwy with my install. I preupgraded
both of the boxes from F14 to F16 directly. Is there any way of finding
out why it would believe these cards can't support 3d acceleration?
~/.xsession-errors may offer useful clues.
Also see if other 3D stuff works when you login with the fallback Gnome
6:15 p.m.
On 12/15/2011 05:43, Alan Cox wrote:
> gnome-shell itself doesn't care, it just uses x.org. If x.org
runs,
> and
> gives 3D capability, that's all that gnome-shell cares about.
Actually it does seem to care in a few cases. On FC15 it would
unilaterally decide to do fallback on > 2048 pixel wide Intel i9xx
displays. I assume this was because the X driver had some 3D bugs in
that case.
So it's a bit smarter rule and policy wise than you give it credit
for.
It should certainly be "working" in FC15 even for most Intel configs,
and
in FC16 it works on a Radeon HD2450 although it's got a few small
bugs
now and then.
Alan
So if the expected result is for me to have a working gnome shell I
wonder if it might be something screwy with my install. I preupgraded
both of the boxes from F14 to F16 directly. Is there any way of finding
out why it would believe these cards can't support 3d acceleration?
Dave
8:43 a.m.
Around 02:40pm on Thursday, December 15, 2011 (UK time), Aaron Konstam scrawled:
I will bite, what is a binary blob?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_blob
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8:40 a.m.
On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 22:19 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Dave Quigley writes:
> Is there a list anywhere of supported hardware for gnome-shell? I've tried
It's the same as the list of supported 3D hardware for x.org, on
http://mesa.freedesktop.org, which seems to be down right now.
In addition to that, you also have the additional option of gaining 3D by
installing your hardware vendor's binary blob. If it works with x.org,
great. If not, you're on your own.
I will bite, what is a binary blob?
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5:09 a.m.
Regarding Alans comment about gnome-shell falling back on > 2048 pixel
wide displays, I had the same thing with gnome-shell on an nvidia card
using the nouveau drivers. So, I guess this might not be specific to
i9xx displays. In my case, one symptom was that these errors appeared
in Xorg.0.log
---
(II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
(II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
---
even though the card is DRI capable.
I believe this blog entry has the reason:
https://jeremy.visser.name/2009/10/no-dri-on-x-org-with-a-radeon-check-yo...
Quoting from that page: "Because of various technical reasons, when
the Virtual size is too big (which, evidently, 2048×2048 is), DRI gets
disabled"
I started seeing this error after I upgraded to a new nvidia card with
more memory. After the upgrade my default Virtual size went to about
8000x8000 and gnome-shell would only run in fallback mode. Strangely,
the problem went away when I switched to the closed source nvidia
drivers, and gnome-shell works great.
Andy
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Alan Cox <alan(a)lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> gnome-shell itself doesn't care, it just uses x.org. If x.org
runs, and
> gives 3D capability, that's all that gnome-shell cares about.
Actually it does seem to care in a few cases. On FC15 it would
unilaterally decide to do fallback on > 2048 pixel wide Intel i9xx
displays. I assume this was because the X driver had some 3D bugs in
that case.
So it's a bit smarter rule and policy wise than you give it credit for.
It should certainly be "working" in FC15 even for most Intel configs, and
in FC16 it works on a Radeon HD2450 although it's got a few small bugs
now and then.
Alan
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4:43 a.m.
gnome-shell itself doesn't care, it just uses x.org. If x.org
runs, and
gives 3D capability, that's all that gnome-shell cares about.
Actually it does seem to care in a few cases. On FC15 it would
unilaterally decide to do fallback on > 2048 pixel wide Intel i9xx
displays. I assume this was because the X driver had some 3D bugs in
that case.
So it's a bit smarter rule and policy wise than you give it credit for.
It should certainly be "working" in FC15 even for most Intel configs, and
in FC16 it works on a Radeon HD2450 although it's got a few small bugs
now and then.
Alan
9:19 p.m.
Dave Quigley writes:
Is there a list anywhere of supported hardware for gnome-shell?
I've tried
It's the same as the list of supported 3D hardware for x.org, on
http://mesa.freedesktop.org, which seems to be down right now.
In addition to that, you also have the additional option of gaining 3D by
installing your hardware vendor's binary blob. If it works with x.org,
great. If not, you're on your own.
it on 3 computers so far and none of them work. The first was VMWare
which
I've seen isn't supported so I wrote that off. The second was a dell
optiplex 790 with on-board intel accelerated graphics. The final one is an
optiplex 960 with a Radeon HD 3450 in it. Is there something wrong with the
setup or is gnome-shell really that selective about hardware even after its
been in two Fedora releases?
gnome-shell itself doesn't care, it just uses x.org. If x.org runs, and
gives 3D capability, that's all that gnome-shell cares about.
4:46 a.m.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Alan Cox <alan(a)lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
It should certainly be "working" in FC15 even for most
Intel configs, and
in FC16 it works on a Radeon HD2450 although it's got a few small bugs
now and then.
FC15 is working here fine without any errors.
9:42 a.m.
On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 22:19 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Dave Quigley writes:
> Is there a list anywhere of supported hardware for gnome-shell? I've tried
It's the same as the list of supported 3D hardware for x.org, on
http://mesa.freedesktop.org, which seems to be down right now.
I am very interested
in why the F16 Live CD can bring up Gnome 3.2 as it
should be on my machine but my installation of the installation DVD
can't get out of failsafe mode.
Before people have refereed people with questions about this to the web
site quoted above. That web site has been down for over a month. Is the
relevant information somewhere else or does someone know why the web
site:http://mesa.freedesktop.org
Has been down for so long? Will it ever come back?
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2:56 p.m.
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Aaron Konstam <akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 22:19 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Dave Quigley writes:
>
> > Is there a list anywhere of supported hardware for gnome-shell? I've tried
>
> It's the same as the list of supported 3D hardware for x.org, on
> http://mesa.freedesktop.org, which seems to be down right now.
I am very interested in why the F16 Live CD can bring up Gnome 3.2 as it
should be on my machine but my installation of the installation DVD
can't get out of failsafe mode.
Before people have refereed people with questions about this to the web
site quoted above. That web site has been down for over a month. Is the
relevant information somewhere else or does someone know why the web
site:http://mesa.freedesktop.org
Has been down for so long? Will it ever come back?
It moved to http://www.mesa3d.org/
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