followup on last post -- i'm using this page to build a new kernel for my f20 system: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel is that page meant to be up to date? if so, it needs a bit of tweaking. (and, yes, i *know* it's a wiki but i'm not confident enough to want to change it myself.) mostly, the problem seems to be here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel#Build_the_New_Kernel "For example, to build just the kernel and kernel-devel packages, the command would be: rpmbuild -bb --with baseonly --without debuginfo --target=`uname -m` kernel.spec" uh, no. if that's all you specify, you get *way* more packages than just kernel and kernel-devel -- when my build worked earlier today, i think i counted 11. so that claim is a massive underestimate, but i'll let someone higher up the food chain deal with it. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================