1:48 p.m.
Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and Thunderbird
17.08?
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David
1:50 p.m.
Am 08.08.2013 20:48, schrieb David:
Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and
Thunderbird
17.08?
[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q thunderbird
thunderbird-17.0.8-1.fc18.x86_64
[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q firefox
firefox-23.0-1.fc18.x86_64
[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q xulrunner
xulrunner-23.0-2.fc18.x86_64
koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/builds?tagID=204&inherited=0&order=-c...
2:34 p.m.
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On 8/8/2013 2:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 08.08.2013 20:48, schrieb David:
> Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and
> Thunderbird 17.08?
[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q thunderbird
thunderbird-17.0.8-1.fc18.x86_64
[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q firefox firefox-23.0-1.fc18.x86_64
[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q xulrunner
xulrunner-23.0-2.fc18.x86_64
koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/builds?tagID=204&inherited=0&order=-c...
Thanks. I was thinking more about the 'regular user' that does not
know about the need to jump through hoops with Linux from time to time.
- --
David
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2:39 p.m.
Am 08.08.2013 21:34, schrieb David:
On 8/8/2013 2:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 08.08.2013 20:48, schrieb David:
>> Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and
>> Thunderbird 17.08?
> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q thunderbird
> thunderbird-17.0.8-1.fc18.x86_64
> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q firefox firefox-23.0-1.fc18.x86_64
> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q xulrunner
> xulrunner-23.0-2.fc18.x86_64
>
koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/builds?tagID=204&inherited=0&order=-c...
Thanks. I was thinking more about the 'regular user' that does not
know about the need to jump through hoops with Linux from time to time
* patience
* koji
* yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update firefox\* xulrunner\* thunderbird\*
choose one of them :-)
the 'regular user' implicitly chooses option 1
2:50 p.m.
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On 8/8/2013 3:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 08.08.2013 21:34, schrieb David:
> On 8/8/2013 2:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> Am 08.08.2013 20:48, schrieb David:
>>> Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and
>>> Thunderbird 17.08?
>
>> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q thunderbird
>> thunderbird-17.0.8-1.fc18.x86_64
>
>> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q firefox
>> firefox-23.0-1.fc18.x86_64
>
>> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q xulrunner
>> xulrunner-23.0-2.fc18.x86_64
>
>>
koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/builds?tagID=204&inherited=0&order=-c...
>
>
>>
Thanks.
>>
I was thinking more about the 'regular user'
that does not
> know about the need to jump through hoops with Linux from time
> to time
* patience * koji * yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update
firefox\* xulrunner\* thunderbird\*
choose one of them :-)
the 'regular user' implicitly chooses option 1
True. But they are not yet 'official' in my Rawhide install either. I
have them in several other Linux installs (other distributions) since
Tuesday as a matter of fact.
I was wondering if there was some problem here with Fedora.
- --
David
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3:26 p.m.
Am 08.08.2013 21:50, schrieb David:
On 8/8/2013 3:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> * patience * koji * yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update
> firefox\* xulrunner\* thunderbird\*
> choose one of them :-)
> the 'regular user' implicitly chooses option 1
True. But they are not yet 'official' in my Rawhide install either. I
have them in several other Linux installs (other distributions) since
Tuesday as a matter of fact.
I was wondering if there was some problem here with Fedora
mostly bad timing
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977325
3:34 p.m.
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On 8/8/2013 4:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 08.08.2013 21:50, schrieb David:
> On 8/8/2013 3:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> * patience * koji * yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update
>> firefox\* xulrunner\* thunderbird\*
>
>> choose one of them :-)
>
>> the 'regular user' implicitly chooses option 1
>
> True. But they are not yet 'official' in my Rawhide install
> either. I have them in several other Linux installs (other
> distributions) since Tuesday as a matter of fact.
>
> I was wondering if there was some problem here with Fedora
mostly bad timing
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977325
Not to insult anyone but... This same situation happens with each
official Mozilla release.
I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and
Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly.
- --
David
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3:39 p.m.
Am 08.08.2013 22:34, schrieb David:
On 8/8/2013 4:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> I was wondering if there was some problem here with Fedora
> mostly bad timing
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977325
Not to insult anyone but... This same situation happens with each
official Mozilla release.
I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and
Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly
and you would be probably one of the first starting to cry
loud if things are broken after untested updates.....
and "broken" oftly differs between usecases
for me the iditoic chnages to remove options and show
the damned tabs *always* even if there is only one and
even if your web-app opens a popupd and explicitly
requests *no bars, no bullshit, only a window* is broken
but i can live with it
3:56 p.m.
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On 8/8/2013 4:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 08.08.2013 22:34, schrieb David:
> On 8/8/2013 4:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> I was wondering if there was some problem here with Fedora
>
>> mostly bad timing
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977325
>
> Not to insult anyone but... This same situation happens with
> each official Mozilla release.
>
> I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly,
> Alphas and Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more
> quickly
and you would be probably one of the first starting to cry loud if
things are broken after untested updates.....
and "broken" oftly differs between usecases
for me the iditoic chnages to remove options and show the damned
tabs *always* even if there is only one and even if your web-app
opens a popupd and explicitly requests *no bars, no bullshit, only
a window* is broken but i can live with it
You must have missed the part in this thread where I wrote that I have
been using the Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird version long before?
One expects those to break from time to time. And you must have
missed, again in this thread, where I wrote that I had offical Firefox
and Thunderbird updates on Tuesday Aug 6?
As for the other things that you dislike? Those have been active for
months in the pre-releases and writen about for the same time.
There have been several articles about how to change those items too.
- --
David
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4:07 p.m.
Am 08.08.2013 22:56, schrieb David:
On 8/8/2013 4:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 08.08.2013 22:34, schrieb David:
>> On 8/8/2013 4:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>>> I was wondering if there was some problem here with Fedora
>>
>>> mostly bad timing
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977325
>>
>> Not to insult anyone but... This same situation happens with
>> each official Mozilla release.
>>
>> I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly,
>> Alphas and Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more
>> quickly
> and you would be probably one of the first starting to cry loud if
> things are broken after untested updates.....
> and "broken" oftly differs between usecases
> for me the iditoic chnages to remove options and show the damned
> tabs *always* even if there is only one and even if your web-app
> opens a popupd and explicitly requests *no bars, no bullshit, only
> a window* is broken but i can live with it
You must have missed the part in this thread where I wrote that I have
been using the Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird version long before?
"long before* is laughable in case of FF23
One expects those to break from time to time. And you must have
missed, again in this thread, where I wrote that I had offical Firefox
and Thunderbird updates on Tuesday Aug 6?
and now it is thursday
so what is your exactly problem?
are you taken repsonsibility that extensions installed with
yum are not broken after a new version? if they need a update
do you take responsibility for coordinate FF/TB/XULrunner/Extensions
packaging, testing and rollout?
no? so what...............
As for the other things that you dislike? Those have been active for
months in the pre-releases and writen about for the same time.
There have been several articles about how to change those items too
blabla - the options for hide the tab-bar are there in about:config
but it does not change anything - i am using Firefox since it even
had not the name "Firefox" and was known as "Firebird"
4:12 p.m.
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On 8/8/2013 5:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 08.08.2013 22:56, schrieb David:
> On 8/8/2013 4:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> Am 08.08.2013 22:34, schrieb David:
>>> On 8/8/2013 4:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>>>> I was wondering if there was some problem here with
>>>>> Fedora
>>>
>>>> mostly bad timing
>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977325
>>>
>>> Not to insult anyone but... This same situation happens with
>>> each official Mozilla release.
>>>
>>> I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly,
>>> Alphas and Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more
>>> quickly
>
>> and you would be probably one of the first starting to cry loud
>> if things are broken after untested updates.....
>
>> and "broken" oftly differs between usecases
>
>> for me the iditoic chnages to remove options and show the
>> damned tabs *always* even if there is only one and even if your
>> web-app opens a popupd and explicitly requests *no bars, no
>> bullshit, only a window* is broken but i can live with it
>
> You must have missed the part in this thread where I wrote that I
> have been using the Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird version long
> before?
"long before* is laughable in case of FF23
I was using Firefox 23 when it was a Daily'. Is that long before where
you live>
> One expects those to break from time to time. And you must have
> missed, again in this thread, where I wrote that I had offical
> Firefox and Thunderbird updates on Tuesday Aug 6?
and now it is thursday so what is your exactly problem?
are you taken repsonsibility that extensions installed with yum are
not broken after a new version? if they need a update do you take
responsibility for coordinate FF/TB/XULrunner/Extensions packaging,
testing and rollout?
no? so what...............
> As for the other things that you dislike? Those have been active
> for months in the pre-releases and writen about for the same
> time. There have been several articles about how to change those
> items too
blabla - the options for hide the tab-bar are there in
about:config but it does not change anything - i am using Firefox
since it even had not the name "Firefox" and was known as
"Firebird"
I can not say anything about "extensions installed with yum". I use
the official extensions from Mozilla. And they work regardless what
Fedora does.
I'm done here. You have a nice day. Or evening. What ever it is where
you are.
- --
David
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4:33 p.m.
Am 08.08.2013 23:12, schrieb David:
I can not say anything about "extensions installed with
yum". I use
the official extensions from Mozilla. And they work regardless what
Fedora does.
well, so don't complainif you can't say anything
> "long before* is laughable in case of FF23
I was using Firefox 23 when it was a Daily
Is that long before where you live
who cares in context of the official release?
these are *completly* different binaries with
completly different shared libraries and a
different compiler, they have *nothing* common
with distribution packages
I asked a question. Is that *not* what this list if for.
Asking questions.
but you refused the answers and started to argue with snapshot-builds
and whatever - so no you are not helping much with your hurry
two days after the release, the people who care have it already
and the others have no problem actually
One thing it appears that I did do was to pi$$ you off.
Byr. Please go argue with yourself
the only thing which is pissing me off is when people
refuse to understand well suited explanations
4:41 p.m.
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On 8/8/2013 5:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 08.08.2013 23:12, schrieb David:
> I can not say anything about "extensions installed with yum". I
> use the official extensions from Mozilla. And they work
> regardless what Fedora does.
well, so don't complainif you can't say anything
>> "long before* is laughable in case of FF23
> I was using Firefox 23 when it was a Daily Is that long before
> where you live
who cares in context of the official release?
these are *completly* different binaries with completly different
shared libraries and a different compiler, they have *nothing*
common with distribution packages
The Linux Firefox 23 that was released by Mozilla on Tuesday works
just fine with the official Firefox extension that come from Mozilla.
*If* the is a problem with the rpm that Fedora provides/// Sounds like
a fedora problem to me.
> I asked a question. Is that *not* what this list if for. Asking
> questions.
but you refused the answers and started to argue with
snapshot-builds and whatever - so no you are not helping much with
your hurry two days after the release, the people who care have it
already and the others have no problem actually
> One thing it appears that I did do was to pi$$ you off. Byr.
> Please go argue with yourself
the only thing which is pissing me off is when people refuse to
understand well suited explanations
I have already gotten a perfectly good explanation. That the release
is still in update-testing. While other distro have already released
it to the public. I have to much respect to post names but there are
three well known names that I currently have installed that do.
Already have said goodbye. Sorry. I forgot you need to get in the last
word.
So? Your turn.
- --
David
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4:49 p.m.
Am 08.08.2013 23:41, schrieb David:
On 8/8/2013 5:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> who cares in context of the official release?
> these are *completly* different binaries with completly different
> shared libraries and a different compiler, they have *nothing*
> common with distribution packages
The Linux Firefox 23 that was released by Mozilla on Tuesday works
just fine with the official Firefox extension that come from Mozilla.
*If* the is a problem with the rpm that Fedora provides/// Sounds like
a fedora problem to me.
*nobody* said there is a problem
*because* nobody knows before testing
if you think "if it compiles it works" is they way to go
you never where responsilbe for any IT exepct your private
ones - the packager for a distribution is in doubt responsible
for the userbase and a untested, broken update levaes a bad
taste in the mouth of users which rely that auto-updates
are working and not only untested crap
I have already gotten a perfectly good explanation. That the release
is still in update-testing. While other distro have already released
it to the public. I have to much respect to post names but there are
three well known names that I currently have installed that do
one of the three i guess is Ubuntu, a piece of crap in my opinion
but hey, if it is your favor why not using it?
3:47 p.m.
On 08/08/2013 01:34 PM, David wrote:
I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas
and
Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly.
The people doing the packaging and testing aren't exactly getting paid
for their work. If you want the new releases available sooner, there's
nothing stopping you from helping out.
4:04 p.m.
On 8/8/2013 4:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 08/08/2013 01:34 PM, David wrote:
> I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and
> Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly.
The people doing the packaging and testing aren't exactly getting paid
for their work. If you want the new releases available sooner, there's
nothing stopping you from helping out.
Joe did you not read where I said that I was asking for the 'regular
Fedora Community users', sucjh as you, and not for myself? And that I
was asking because so many other Linux distributions already have them.
I already have the latest releases.
As for 'helping out'? No. I can't. Programing and computers is not my
field. My field is mechanical design and engendering. Before digital
calculators and computers we used pencils, paper, chalk boards, and
slide rules. :-)
--
David
4:09 p.m.
Am 08.08.2013 23:04, schrieb David:
On 8/8/2013 4:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 08/08/2013 01:34 PM, David wrote:
>> I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and
>> Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly.
>
> The people doing the packaging and testing aren't exactly getting paid
> for their work. If you want the new releases available sooner, there's
> nothing stopping you from helping out.
Joe did you not read where I said that I was asking for the 'regular
Fedora Community users'
no, you did only make noise, not more and not less
updates are released after they gone thorugh updates-testing
period
if whatever distribution fires them out without -> their problem
period
so *what* is the problem you think you solved by impatience?
4:14 p.m.
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On 8/8/2013 5:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 08.08.2013 23:04, schrieb David:
> On 8/8/2013 4:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 08/08/2013 01:34 PM, David wrote:
>>> I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly,
>>> Alphas and Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more
>>> quickly.
>>
>> The people doing the packaging and testing aren't exactly
>> getting paid for their work. If you want the new releases
>> available sooner, there's nothing stopping you from helping
>> out.
>
> Joe did you not read where I said that I was asking for the
> 'regular Fedora Community users'
no, you did only make noise, not more and not less
updates are released after they gone thorugh updates-testing
period
if whatever distribution fires them out without -> their problem
period
so *what* is the problem you think you solved by impatience?
I asked a question. Is that *not* what this list if for. Asking questions.
One thing it appears that I did do was to pi$$ you off.
Byr. Please go argue with yourself.
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David
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4:35 p.m.
On 08/08/2013 02:04 PM, David wrote:
Joe did you not read where I said that I was asking for the
'regular
Fedora Community users', sucjh as you, and not for myself? And that I
was asking because so many other Linux distributions already have them.
I already have the latest releases.
What makes you think I'm a "regular Fedora Community user?" I've
decades of computer experience, done programming work in FORTRAN and
PL/1 at JPL and spend almost eight years doing tech support for an ISP
because I found out that I was good at it and enjoyed it. That's why I
infest this list and two Fedora help forums: not mostly to get help, but
to give it. I don't package or maintain programs because I'm retired
now, and that's too much like work, but I like helping others, so I do
my share by trying to give advice when asked. I'm presuming that you're
still working and don't have time to learn how to prepare new versions
of Firefox/Thunderbird for Fedora, and that's OK. Just remember that
those who are doing it also work and have to get this done in their
Copious Free Time.
4:44 p.m.
On 8/8/2013 5:35 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 08/08/2013 02:04 PM, David wrote:
> Joe did you not read where I said that I was asking for the 'regular
> Fedora Community users', sucjh as you, and not for myself? And that I
> was asking because so many other Linux distributions already have them.
> I already have the latest releases.
What makes you think I'm a "regular Fedora Community user?" I've
decades of computer experience, done programming work in FORTRAN and
PL/1 at JPL and spend almost eight years doing tech support for an ISP
because I found out that I was good at it and enjoyed it. That's why I
infest this list and two Fedora help forums: not mostly to get help, but
to give it. I don't package or maintain programs because I'm retired
now, and that's too much like work, but I like helping others, so I do
my share by trying to give advice when asked. I'm presuming that you're
still working and don't have time to learn how to prepare new versions
of Firefox/Thunderbird for Fedora, and that's OK. Just remember that
those who are doing it also work and have to get this done in their
Copious Free Time.
Gee. That I did not know. So you help here then? As a maintainer or
something?
--
David
5:01 p.m.
On 08/08/2013 02:44 PM, David wrote:
Gee. That I did not know. So you help here then? As a maintainer or
something?
No. My programming skills are several decades out of date. I help (or
try to) by sharing my computer and Linux knowledge and by trying to find
answers to questions. Or, to put it more simply, I'm still doing tech
support, not because I'm paid to do it, but because I want to and like
the idea that what I know is still useful.
5:26 p.m.
On 8/8/2013 6:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 08/08/2013 02:44 PM, David wrote:
> Gee. That I did not know. So you help here then? As a maintainer or
> something?
No. My programming skills are several decades out of date. I help (or
try to) by sharing my computer and Linux knowledge and by trying to find
answers to questions. Or, to put it more simply, I'm still doing tech
support, not because I'm paid to do it, but because I want to and like
the idea that what I know is still useful.
What little 'programing skills' I have, or had, was Dos Basic, IBM OS/2
Warp Rexx, and copying Commodore 64 programs from magazines. Long lost
ancient skills. :-)
I certainly did not intend to hurt your feelings. Or those of anyone else.
--
David
6:12 p.m.
On 08/08/2013 03:26 PM, David wrote:
What little 'programing skills' I have, or had, was Dos Basic, IBM OS/2
Warp Rexx, and copying Commodore 64 programs from magazines. Long lost
ancient skills. :-)
I certainly did not intend to hurt your feelings. Or those of anyone else.
Don't worry, you didn't. I just thought it was better to explain why I
help the way I do because it shows that I understand that not everybody
has the time, skills or interest needed to do that type of work.
9:39 p.m.
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 05:04:56PM -0400, David wrote:
On 8/8/2013 4:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 08/08/2013 01:34 PM, David wrote:
>> I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and
>> Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly.
>
> The people doing the packaging and testing aren't exactly getting paid
> for their work. If you want the new releases available sooner, there's
> nothing stopping you from helping out.
Joe did you not read where I said that I was asking for the 'regular
Fedora Community users', sucjh as you, and not for myself? And that I
was asking because so many other Linux distributions already have them.
I already have the latest releases.
As for 'helping out'? No. I can't. Programing and computers is not my
field. My field is mechanical design and engendering. Before digital
calculators and computers we used pencils, paper, chalk boards, and
slide rules. :-)
Brings me back to the old days. You certainly spell like an engereer. I
know. I are one, also mehanical and design. Save your 2H lead, the
drafting board shall return!!!
--
Bob Holtzman
Your mail is being read by tight lipped
Homeland Security agents who fail to see
the humor in Doctor Strangelove
2:29 a.m.
On 09.08.2013, David wrote:
Joe did you not read where I said that I was asking for the
'regular
Fedora Community users', sucjh as you, and not for myself? And that I
was asking because so many other Linux distributions already have them.
I already have the latest releases.
Updates usually doesn't only fix problems and bring on new features,
they introduce new bugs, too. Keep cool for some days, and the stuff
will be available in the -stable repos :-)
4:08 p.m.
New subject: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:34 PM, David <dgboles(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Not to insult anyone but... This same situation happens with each
official Mozilla release.
I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and
Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly.
*All* Fedora updates must go to updates-testing first, and they must
receive at least 2 positive votes from the testing community to get
pushed stable, or else wait a week in updates-testing.
Firefox 23 was submitted for updates-testing mere hours after its
release and got +5 before it even made it to testing (from people
downloading it directly from the buildsystem), so it'll be pushed to
the stable repository in a few hours.
If you must have the absolute latest software on your computer at all
times, enable updates-testing:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing
Otherwise, it takes a couple days for us to test updates and get them
into the stable repository. A two-day turnaround on something that
updates as often as Firefox is perfectly reasonable.
-T.C.
4:18 p.m.
New subject: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases
On 8/8/2013 5:08 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:34 PM, David <dgboles(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Not to insult anyone but... This same situation happens with each
> official Mozilla release.
>
> I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and
> Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly.
*All* Fedora updates must go to updates-testing first, and they must
receive at least 2 positive votes from the testing community to get
pushed stable, or else wait a week in updates-testing.
Firefox 23 was submitted for updates-testing mere hours after its
release and got +5 before it even made it to testing (from people
downloading it directly from the buildsystem), so it'll be pushed to
the stable repository in a few hours.
If you must have the absolute latest software on your computer at all
times, enable updates-testing:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing
Otherwise, it takes a couple days for us to test updates and get them
into the stable repository. A two-day turnaround on something that
updates as often as Firefox is perfectly reasonable.
Thank you for that. So tell me wwy the Xulrunner dependency for Firefox
came out right away, it alwyas does, and Firefox was delayed? As it
always is.
As I have said several times in this thread... I am *not complaining* I
was only asking why the delay.
--
David
5:09 p.m.
New subject: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, David <dgboles(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for that. So tell me wwy the Xulrunner dependency for
Firefox
came out right away, it alwyas does, and Firefox was delayed? As it
always is.
It looks like the maintainer made a mistake and accidentally bumped
the version in the RPM wrong, so Firefox 23 did get released at the
same time, but rpm thought it was Firefox 22. I imagine the Firefox
maintainers a few scripts so they can get updates out really fast, but
this time they (or it) tripped up and pass a wrong argument to them or
something. Us package maintainers are human too. ;-)
A tester caught it four whole hours after the update was submitted,
and three hours after that it was fixed (most of which was probably
spent waiting for it to build ;-). This didn't even delay it from
making the day's updates-testing push.
-T.C.
5:20 p.m.
New subject: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases
On 8/8/2013 6:09 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, David <dgboles(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thank you for that. So tell me wwy the Xulrunner dependency for Firefox
> came out right away, it alwyas does, and Firefox was delayed? As it
> always is.
It looks like the maintainer made a mistake and accidentally bumped
the version in the RPM wrong, so Firefox 23 did get released at the
same time, but rpm thought it was Firefox 22. I imagine the Firefox
maintainers a few scripts so they can get updates out really fast, but
this time they (or it) tripped up and pass a wrong argument to them or
something. Us package maintainers are human too. ;-)
A tester caught it four whole hours after the update was submitted,
and three hours after that it was fixed (most of which was probably
spent waiting for it to build ;-). This didn't even delay it from
making the day's updates-testing push.
Which is proof that 'stuff happens'. :-)
I see. And thank you for that. I certainly did not mean to create a
problem with a simple question.
Thanks again.
--
David
4:37 p.m.
New subject: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases
On 08/08/2013 02:08 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
Otherwise, it takes a couple days for us to test updates and get
them
into the stable repository. A two-day turnaround on something that
updates as often as Firefox is perfectly reasonable.
And, if you don't have the skills to do the packaging, being a tester is
a very good way to help out and pay the community back for some of the
help it gives to anybody who asks.
4:50 p.m.
New subject: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases
On 8/8/2013 5:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 08/08/2013 02:08 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
> Otherwise, it takes a couple days for us to test updates and get them
> into the stable repository. A two-day turnaround on something that
> updates as often as Firefox is perfectly reasonable.
And, if you don't have the skills to do the packaging, being a tester is
a very good way to help out and pay the community back for some of the
help it gives to anybody who asks.
In reply to T.C. Hollingsworth: 6 weeks is concidered often?
In reply to Joe: I used to buy the disks instead of downloading. I also
was a dues paying charter member of the Mandrake Users Club. You have
seen Adam Williamson around here? He was the list monkey.
By guys. You have a good evening. Back to work for me. project deadline.
--
David
1:53 p.m.
Yes, I have already installed it. click on the update testings and you
will find itand it works fine. Hope that help.
On 08/08/2013 12:48 PM, David wrote:
Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and
Thunderbird
17.08?
--
All things are workable but don't all things work. Prov. 3:5 & 6
2:36 p.m.
On 8/8/2013 2:53 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:
Yes, I have already installed it. click on the update testings and
you
will find itand it works fine. Hope that help.
On 08/08/2013 12:48 PM, David wrote:
> Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and Thunderbird
> 17.08?
>
--
All things are workable but don't all things work. Prov. 3:5 & 6
Thanks. I have been using the official Mozilla release(s) for a long time.
--
David
2:30 p.m.
On 08/08/2013 03:48 PM, David wrote:
Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and
Thunderbird
17.08?
They are in updates-testing, at least for F19 :)
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Fedora Package Maintainer
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