11:16 a.m.
"xv" does not handle "webp" images. I do not see "xv" in
the Redhat bugzilla menu of components. Where do I submit a bug against xv?
11:18 a.m.
For compilation help, bug reports, or other technical matters, contact
xvtech(a)trilon.com
If this website that looks like it was designed in the 90s:
http://www.trilon.com/xv/ is anything to go by
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 5:17 PM home user <mattisonw(a)comcast.net> wrote:
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11:30 a.m.
home user wrote:
"xv" does not handle "webp" images. I do not see
"xv" in
the Redhat bugzilla menu of components. Where do I submit
a bug against xv?
Running 'rpm -qi xv' or 'dnf info xv' shows that package
comes from rpmfusion-nonfree. But I can't imgine anyone at
rpmfusion being eager to add webp support to such an ancient
tool. I could always be wrong.
As Luna suggested, upstream might be better. Of course, the
date on the package is 20070520, so I'm guessing it's not
getting active development these days.
You're surely better off using some other tool if you need
webp support. Or you could convert from webp to a format xv
can handle. :)
--
Todd
11:49 a.m.
On 3/15/23 10:16 AM, home user wrote:
"xv" does not handle "webp" images. I do not see
"xv" in the Redhat bugzilla menu of components. Where do I submit a bug against
xv?
(Luna)
For compilation help, bug reports, or other technical matters,
contact
xvtech(a)trilon.com
I did as Luna suggested. The message did not bounce. A faint sign of hope?
(Todd)
Running 'rpm -qi xv' or 'dnf info xv' shows that
package
comes from rpmfusion-nonfree.
I saw that. But how do I submit a bug against something in rpmfusion-nonfree?
(apparently not via Redhat bugzilla)
I did not realize that the "20070520" in the dnf output was a date.
I also see in "dnf history" that xv was updated on my workstation in October
when I did my last upgrade.
You're probably correct, but I hope you're wrong! I've been using xv for
decades, and I like it. It does what I want, and it's easy.
7:48 p.m.
On 3/15/23 09:49, home user wrote:
On 3/15/23 10:16 AM, home user wrote:
> "xv" does not handle "webp" images. I do not see "xv"
in the Redhat
> bugzilla menu of components. Where do I submit a bug against xv?
(Luna)
> For compilation help, bug reports, or other technical matters, contact
> xvtech(a)trilon.com
I did as Luna suggested. The message did not bounce. A faint sign of
hope?
(Todd)
> Running 'rpm -qi xv' or 'dnf info xv' shows that package
> comes from rpmfusion-nonfree.
I saw that. But how do I submit a bug against something in
rpmfusion-nonfree?
https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/
You're probably correct, but I hope you're wrong! I've
been using xv
for decades, and I like it. It does what I want, and it's easy.
You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick or
"gm display" from GraphicsMagick.
10:22 a.m.
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:48:23 -0700
Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net> wrote:
On 3/15/23 09:49, home user wrote:
> You're probably correct, but I hope you're wrong!
I've been using
> xv for decades, and I like it. It does what I want, and it's easy.
>
You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick or
"gm display" from GraphicsMagick.
Another possibility is qiv. I'm not sure if I've used it on webp, but
I haven't had any failure to display an image.
10:48 a.m.
On 3/17/23 08:22, stan via users wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:48:23 -0700
Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net> wrote:
> On 3/15/23 09:49, home user wrote:
>> You're probably correct, but I hope you're wrong! I've been using
>> xv for decades, and I like it. It does what I want, and it's easy.
>>
>
> You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick or
> "gm display" from GraphicsMagick.
Another possibility is qiv. I'm not sure if I've used it on webp, but
I haven't had any failure to display an image.
Just checked qiv out. No webp support (yet?)
Supported extensions:
jpg .jpeg .jpe .gif .tif .tiff .xpm .png .pjpeg .ppm .pnm .pgm .pbm .pcx
.bmp .eim .ico .wmf .svg
11:06 a.m.
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 08:48:05 -0700
Mike Wright <nobody(a)nospam.hostisimo.com> wrote:
On 3/17/23 08:22, stan via users wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:48:23 -0700
> Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net> wrote:
>
>> On 3/15/23 09:49, home user wrote:
>
>>> You're probably correct, but I hope you're wrong! I've been
using
>>> xv for decades, and I like it. It does what I want, and it's
>>> easy.
>>
>> You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick
>> or "gm display" from GraphicsMagick.
>
> Another possibility is qiv. I'm not sure if I've used it on webp,
> but I haven't had any failure to display an image.
Just checked qiv out. No webp support (yet?)
Supported extensions:
jpg .jpeg .jpe .gif .tif .tiff .xpm .png .pjpeg .ppm .pnm .pgm .pbm
.pcx .bmp .eim .ico .wmf .svg
Thanks for checking. I guess webp images are rare for me, but darn,
maybe I'll be looking for a new viewer too. :-( And after I'm nicely
trained on qiv. :-)
I did a quick search and found this link with quite a bit of
information.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/544254/which-image-viewers-in-linux-suppo...
The big thing I liked there is that there is a command to convert webp
to png using the webp package. And the libwebp and libwebp-tools
packages are available in Fedora. So, I can just convert the files and
still use qiv (or you could just keep using xv). Maybe it is possible
to put this in qiv directly somehow.
From the link, haven't tried it as I don't have a webp file:
alias convertwebp="find ./ -name "*.webp" -exec dwebp {} -o {}.png \;;
find . -type f -name '*.webp' -delete"
Looks like it is destructive, removing the webp files after they are
converted to png.
There also is the package qview described there that supports viewing
webp images, and it also is in the Fedora repositories.
10:45 p.m.
On 3/17/23 10:06 AM, stan via users wrote:
[... snip ...]
From the link, haven't tried it as I don't have a webp file:
[... snip ...]
There's one in this web page:
"https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Johnrogershousemay2020.webp".
Or look up "webp" in wikipedia. There's an image of a white house in the
webp article. It's a webp image.
Bill.
7:57 a.m.
On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 12:47 AM home user <mattisonw(a)comcast.net> wrote:
On 3/17/23 10:06 AM, stan via users wrote:
> [... snip ...]
> From the link, haven't tried it as I don't have a webp file:
> [... snip ...]
There's one in this web page:
"https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Johnrogershousemay2020.webp".
Or look up "webp" in wikipedia. There's an image of a white house in the
webp article. It's a webp image.
Or use your own png images: install Fedora's libwebp-tools and use "cwebp
-q 75 image.png -o image.webp". For me, the webp
files are usually half the size of the png files. One of my projects
generates several png images per month over a decade, so the
savings are very useful.
--
George N. White III
2:12 p.m.
On 3/18/23 05:57, George N. White III wrote:
On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 12:47 AM home user <mattisonw(a)comcast.net
<mailto:mattisonw@comcast.net>> wrote:
On 3/17/23 10:06 AM, stan via users wrote:
> [... snip ...]
> From the link, haven't tried it as I don't have a webp file:
> [... snip ...]
There's one in this web page:
"https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Johnrogershousemay2020.webp
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Johnrogershousemay2020.webp>";.
Or look up "webp" in wikipedia. There's an image of a white house
in the webp article. It's a webp image.
Or use your own png images: install Fedora's libwebp-tools and use
"cwebp -q 75 image.png -o image.webp". For me, the webp
files are usually half the size of the png files. One of my projects
generates several png images per month over a decade, so the
savings are very useful.
webp can be lossy or lossless, png is only lossless. So just be aware
that you're using lossy compression there. It of course depends on what
the use case is for whether or not that matters.
11:27 a.m.
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 08:48:05 -0700
Mike Wright <nobody(a)nospam.hostisimo.com> wrote:
On 3/17/23 08:22, stan via users wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:48:23 -0700
> Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net> wrote:
>
>> On 3/15/23 09:49, home user wrote:
>
>>> You're probably correct, but I hope you're wrong! I've been
using
>>> xv for decades, and I like it. It does what I want, and it's
>>> easy.
>>
>> You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick
>> or "gm display" from GraphicsMagick.
>
> Another possibility is qiv. I'm not sure if I've used it on webp,
> but I haven't had any failure to display an image.
Just checked qiv out. No webp support (yet?)
Supported extensions:
jpg .jpeg .jpe .gif .tif .tiff .xpm .png .pjpeg .ppm .pnm .pgm .pbm
.pcx .bmp .eim .ico .wmf .svg
I went and checked the source page for qiv, and found this in the
change log:
17.07.2021 [tw] add webp support via imlib loader (Ralf Hoffmann)
But this is in version 2.3.3 and F37 only has 2.3.2, so it will
eventually show up when qiv is updated. Saved!
2:19 p.m.
New subject: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]
On 3/15/23 10:49 AM, home user wrote:
On 3/15/23 10:16 AM, home user wrote:
> "xv" does not handle "webp" images. I do not see "xv"
in the Redhat bugzilla menu of components. Where do I submit a bug against xv?
(Luna)
> For compilation help, bug reports, or other technical matters, contact
> xvtech(a)trilon.com
I did as Luna suggested. The message did not bounce. A faint sign of hope?
(Todd)
> Running 'rpm -qi xv' or 'dnf info xv' shows that package
> comes from rpmfusion-nonfree.
I saw that. But how do I submit a bug against something in rpmfusion-nonfree?
(apparently not via Redhat bugzilla)
I did not realize that the "20070520" in the dnf output was a date.
I also see in "dnf history" that xv was updated on my workstation in October
when I did my last upgrade.
You're probably correct, but I hope you're wrong! I've been using xv for
decades, and I like it. It does what I want, and it's easy.
(responding to a few posts)
I finally have a few minutes for this.
My actual "use case":
1. launch xv on a screen capture, usually a "png", occasionally and
"jpeg" or "webp". These always come from the internet; I have no
choice of the image's format.
2. crop the image down to what I want. xv usually handles this easily and very well, but
there are exceptions.
3. save the result as either a "png" or a "jpeg" image.
You can see why I want xv to handle "webp".
(Samuel, where to submit a rpmfusion-nonfree bug)
Thank-you.
(Samuel)
You might want to check out the "display" command from
ImageMagick or "gm display" from GraphicsMagick.
(Stan and Mike)
Another possibility is qiv. I'm not sure if I've used it on
webp, but
I haven't had any failure to display an image.
[Mike reported that qiv does not handle webp.]
[Stan noted solutions from askubantu.com]
[Stan reported that webp support has been added to qiv, but that
enhancement hasn't yet made it to Fedora.]
Thank-you. Those will do the conversion. It would be better if I could have a single
graphical tool to load, display, edit, and then save in the desired format images of any
format. Assuming x11 will eventually be sunset, and assuming xv won't work in
wayland, I'm gonna hafta learn something else. gimp seems to be the best candidate.
gimp is powerful, but that makes it difficult to learn and use.
By the way, does xv work properly in wayland? How about xeyes?
The question for which I opened this thread is answered, so I marked this thread SOLVED.
I thank everyone who tried to help.
Bill.
3:03 p.m.
New subject: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]
On 3/17/23 12:19, home user wrote:
On 3/15/23 10:49 AM, home user wrote:
> On 3/15/23 10:16 AM, home user wrote:
(Samuel)
> You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick or
> "gm display" from GraphicsMagick.
Thank-you. Those will do the conversion. It would be better if I could
have a single graphical tool to load, display, edit, and then save in
the desired format images of any format. Assuming x11 will eventually
be sunset, and assuming xv won't work in wayland, I'm gonna hafta learn
something else. gimp seems to be the best candidate. gimp is powerful,
but that makes it difficult to learn and use.
Those options I gave you will do all that and work with almost any image
format you can think of and many you wouldn't.
7:48 p.m.
New subject: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]
On 3/17/23 2:03 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/17/23 12:19, home user wrote:
> On 3/15/23 10:49 AM, home user wrote:
>> On 3/15/23 10:16 AM, home user wrote:
> (Samuel)
>> You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick or
"gm display" from GraphicsMagick.
>
> Thank-you. Those will do the conversion. It would be better if I could have a
single graphical tool to load, display, edit, and then save in the desired format images
of any format. Assuming x11 will eventually be sunset, and assuming xv won't work in
wayland, I'm gonna hafta learn something else. gimp seems to be the best candidate.
gimp is powerful, but that makes it difficult to learn and use.
Those options I gave you will do all that and work with almost any image format you can
think of and many you wouldn't.
I only had time to give those commands a quick look. I did see they handle webp images
and many image formats, and that they can crop, and that they can do many things I never
heard of or would have imagined doing. Now and recently my "plate" is
overflowing. I'll try those commands when things come off my plate faster than things
are added to my plate!
8:01 a.m.
New subject: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 9:50 PM home user <mattisonw(a)comcast.net> wrote:
Now and recently my "plate" is overflowing. I'll try
those commands
when things come off my plate faster than things are added to my plate!
Good luck with that (and if you figure out how to make it work, let us
know)! I thought retirement would help -- it didn't.
--
George N. White III
2:14 p.m.
New subject: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]
On 3/18/23 06:01, George N. White III wrote:
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 9:50 PM home user <mattisonw(a)comcast.net
<mailto:mattisonw@comcast.net>> wrote:
Now and recently my "plate" is overflowing. I'll try those
commands when things come off my plate faster than things are added
to my plate!
Good luck with that (and if you figure out how to make it work, let us
know)! I thought retirement would help -- it didn't.
It's really easy. "gm display mypicture.jpg" (or just
"display"). If
you click on the picture, you will get a menu with many tools.
3:06 p.m.
New subject: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 4:20 PM home user <mattisonw(a)comcast.net> wrote:
By the way, does xv work properly in wayland? How about xeyes?
Wayland isolates windows, so you can run xeyes in xwayland, but the eyes
don't respond until the
cursor is moved into the xeyes window.
The question for which I opened this thread is answered, so I marked
this
thread SOLVED. I thank everyone who tried to help.
--
George N. White III
7:53 p.m.
New subject: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]
On 3/17/23 2:06 PM, George N. White III wrote:
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 4:20 PM home user <mattisonw(a)comcast.net
<mailto:mattisonw@comcast.net>> wrote:
By the way, does xv work properly in wayland? How about xeyes?
Wayland isolates windows, so you can run xeyes in xwayland, but the eyes don't
respond until the
cursor is moved into the xeyes window.
ok, thank-you.
7:44 p.m.
New subject: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 13:19:23 -0600
home user <mattisonw(a)comcast.net> wrote:
My actual "use case":
1. launch xv on a screen capture, usually a "png", occasionally and
"jpeg" or "webp". These always come from the internet; I have no
choice of the image's format. 2. crop the image down to what I want.
xv usually handles this easily and very well, but there are
exceptions. 3. save the result as either a "png" or a "jpeg" image.
Just for completeness.
I use spectacle for screen captures, and it allows the user to select
the area of the screen to capture and the format of the saved file. I
use png, but there are other formats available in the
configuration (though not webp). Because it is capturing from the
browser, and browsers can display webp on the screen, spectacle captures
everything on the screen in the browser as a png for me. If I select
'save image as' in the File menu of the browser (FF), I can get the
native format of the displayed image, but I usually just use spectacle.
Incidentally, the KDE image viewer Gwenview also can display webp.
2:37 p.m.
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 12:17 PM home user <mattisonw(a)comcast.net> wrote:
"xv" does not handle "webp" images. I do not see "xv" in
the Redhat bugzilla menu of components. Where do I submit a bug against xv?
Since the program is shareware, I doubt you will find it in a distro's Bugzilla.
This looks like as good a site as any:
https://github.com/jasper-software/xv . According to the GitHub
README:
The creator of this GitHub repository (Michael Adams) would
like to thank John Bradley for giving his blessing for a
public Git repository for the XV software. It is hoped that
this repository will allow the ongoing support and
maintenance of the XV software to be done more easily.
Jeff
9:01 p.m.
New subject: follow-up - Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]
(on March 27, 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote)
This looks like as good a site as any:
https://github.com/jasper-software/xv <https://github.com/jasper-software/xv> .
According to the GitHub README:
The creator of this GitHub repository (Michael Adams) would like to thank
John Bradley for giving his blessing for a public Git repository for the
XV software. It is hoped that this repository will allow the ongoing
support and maintenance of the XV software to be done more easily.
Jeff is correct. And GitHub's "jasper-software" team has now upgraded xv to
handle "webp" images. You can read the details here:
"https://github.com/jasper-software/xv".
The discussion of the upgrade is in issue #7, which is here:
"https://github.com/jasper-software/xv/issues/7".
The upgrade has been incorporated into the RPM Fusion Nonfree repository in response to
bug #6702
"https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6702".
The new xv is in release 4.1.1-1.
(on March 18, 2023, George White wrote)
(on March 17, 2023, I wrote)
> Now and recently my "plate" is overflowing. I'll try those commands
> when things come off my plate faster than things are added to my plate!
Good luck with that (and if you figure out how to make it work, let us know)!
I thought retirement would help -- it didn't.
That's also my experience.
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