1:10 p.m.
FC10
I only see a reference to this "Document Viewer" app in the Nautilus
"open as" dialog. There's nothing in the Applications menu and apropos
doesn't show anything. I'd like to know what the app is called and the
version.
10:25 a.m.
On Thu, 07 May 2009 10:56:34 -0400
Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Yet another reason why programs should be named with their
actual name in
> the menus, not some generic name. :-/ This crap really needs to get fixed.
>
I think you have lost sight of the user here, the average user would see
"evince" in a menu and have zero idea what it is and does.
Which brings up another thing that needs fixing: Meaningless application names :-).
I gave up on finding meaning in menu structures years ago. I finally learned
that the real way to find something is to grep the .desktop files under
/usr/share/applications :-).
6:53 p.m.
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 15:21 -0400, Michael Semcheski wrote:
I don't mind file-roller being called Archive Manager. But I
would
like a way to see what I'm running before clicking on an icon in a
menu.
There is a way, a messy one, though... Drag a copy of the item off the
menu onto the desktop, read the desktop file in a text editor, look for
the command in it.
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12:05 a.m.
Rahul Sundaram a écrit :
generally end users don't know or care about the application
names and only the
functionality that it offers.
15 years of professional experience have taught me one thing, the above
statement is not true. End users do actually care about the tools they
are using and their names.
Kevin has a fair point that should not be dismissed.
my .02 cents
Thierry
6:46 p.m.
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Michael Semcheski
<mhsemcheski(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson
<mikkel(a)infinity-ltd.com> wrote:
> Well, for a brief description of what a menu entry does, you can put
> the mouse pointer on the entry and get a tool tip. On the other
> hand, adding an option to the right-click menu to read more about
> the application would be handy...
It seems like the mouse over hint would be the perfect place to
display the name of the application or package.
That's what KDE 4.1.x (x < 3) does and it's stupid and annoying.
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2:21 p.m.
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson
<mikkel(a)infinity-ltd.com> wrote:
Well, for a brief description of what a menu entry does, you can put
the mouse pointer on the entry and get a tool tip. On the other
hand, adding an option to the right-click menu to read more about
the application would be handy...
It seems like the mouse over hint would be the perfect place to
display the name of the application or package.
So for Archive Manager... "Create and modify an archiver. (aka file-roller)"
The Help -> About is not the answer. For instance, with File Roller,
it displays name of the app as "File Roller". Well that's nice, but
I'll bet dollars to donuts that the application binary isn't
/usr/bin/file\ roller. Nor is that the name of the package that
provides it. I had to open it up and use ps to figure out what the
binary is, and then use it to see what provided /usr/bin/file-roller.
So to me, I don't mind file-roller being called Archive Manager. But
I would like a way to see what I'm running before clicking on an icon
in a menu.
8:55 p.m.
Bill Davidsen wrote:
I think you have lost sight of the user here, the average user would
see
"evince" in a menu and have zero idea what it is and does.
The correct thing to write is "Evince Document Viewer" (or any permutation
of this). And the freedesktop.org .desktop file standard says this should
be encoded as:
Name=Evince
GenericName=Document Viewer
Now somebody just needs to fix GNOME not to ignore GenericName, and
the .desktop files to use Name and GenericName as intended by the standard.
Kevin Kofler
9:34 a.m.
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 12:27 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
And I admit that since I have other tools to view pdf files (xpdf
mainly) that I have never felt any curiosity about evince, nor would
I be likely to launch anything "just to see what happens."
I do. That's how I found out that XPDF was crap to use compared to
Evince, in most cases. Yet XPDF can view some PDF files that Evince
just showed a page not yet rendered.
I'm not keen on the idea of running random programs to find out what
they do. But I will try out alternatives, when I can see what a program
is supposed to be able to do.
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8:48 a.m.
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
> I think you have lost sight of the user here, the average user would see
> "evince" in a menu and have zero idea what it is and does.
The correct thing to write is "Evince Document Viewer" (or any permutation
of this). And the freedesktop.org .desktop file standard says this should
be encoded as:
Name=Evince
GenericName=Document Viewer
Now somebody just needs to fix GNOME not to ignore GenericName, and
the .desktop files to use Name and GenericName as intended by the standard.
Yes, exactly. I might even suggest that the menu be built to say
"GenericName (Name)"
so that multiple approaches to a task might be more evident.
It also would educate the user about the application name as well as the service
it provides, which is a good thing.
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the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
8:52 p.m.
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
You're not the only one. KDE 4.2 currently has this Gnomish
behavior
by default, and it's driving me crazy. I've been informed however,
that it will soon be fixed.
Switch to the classic menu (right-click, Switch to Classic menu style), then
you see the apps presented in a more sensible way. Kickoff just sucks.
(Disclaimer: That's my personal opinion and doesn't reflect the position of
the majority of the KDE SIG.)
Kevin Kofler
11:27 a.m.
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Bill Davidsen
<davidsen(a)tmr.com> wrote:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> brian wrote:
>>> Thanks, Sam & Georgi. I'm having a little PDF issue: ghostscript is
>>> complaining but Document Viewer is not. I needed to know that app is for
>>> debugging info. This is perfect.
>> Yet another reason why programs should be named with their actual name in
>> the menus, not some generic name. :-/ This crap really needs to get fixed.
>>
> I think you have lost sight of the user here, the average user would see
> "evince" in a menu and have zero idea what it is and does.
None of us have any idea what the average Fedora is. Making decisions
based on a fictional user is not useful. You need to worry about the
users here and now, that are represented.
> It is a
> meaningless collections of vowels and consonants which are unrelated to the
> function. The name of the application should be available, but not at the
> expense of something useful to typical user.
> document viewer (evince)
> document viewer (xpdf)
> for examples.
Regardless of skill level, "document view" is not a useful search
term. Evince however is. Giving the user the ability to find
information, instead of assume it is more useful.
If you find a meaningless word in a menu more useful than a description of what
service it provides or problem is solves, good for you. Most people, in Fedora
or real life, would prefer that they know what's on the menu before ordering.
The average Fedorian is someone who has not studied every program in /usr/bin
just for the fun of it. And I admit that since I have other tools to view pdf
files (xpdf mainly) that I have never felt any curiosity about evince, nor would
I be likely to launch anything "just to see what happens."
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"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
3:35 p.m.
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen(a)tmr.com> wrote:
Kevin Kofler wrote:
>
> brian wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Sam & Georgi. I'm having a little PDF issue: ghostscript is
>> complaining but Document Viewer is not. I needed to know that app is for
>> debugging info. This is perfect.
>
> Yet another reason why programs should be named with their actual name in
> the menus, not some generic name. :-/ This crap really needs to get fixed.
>
I think you have lost sight of the user here, the average user would see
"evince" in a menu and have zero idea what it is and does.
None of us have any idea what the average Fedora is. Making decisions
based on a fictional user is not useful. You need to worry about the
users here and now, that are represented.
It is a
meaningless collections of vowels and consonants which are unrelated to the
function. The name of the application should be available, but not at the
expense of something useful to typical user.
document viewer (evince)
document viewer (xpdf)
for examples.
Regardless of skill level, "document view" is not a useful search
term. Evince however is. Giving the user the ability to find
information, instead of assume it is more useful.
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2:13 p.m.
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 11:59 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
for a brief description of what a menu entry does, you can put
the mouse pointer on the entry and get a tool tip.
Sometimes you get really stupid descriptions in there. e.g. The tooltip
for Amaya says "edit the web".
Gee! Really? Can I delete microsoft.com?
On the other hand, adding an option to the right-click menu to read
more about the application would be handy...
The desktop files used to populate the menus should have the proper
application name in the right place, a terse description in the right
place, and more details in the right place. And a user menu option
ought to select what's shown. e.g. select to show Names in menu, select
to show terse info in the same menu item, select whether the longer
detailed pop-ups do pop up, with the default to do the obvious name and
terse description. e.g. "Amaya, web page editor."
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11:59 a.m.
Bill Davidsen wrote:
In a perfect world there would be a click to get a useful
description
off the menu. Until then "about" is a good thing to remember.
I find that I learn about a bunch of obscurely named packages by reading
the packages released feed or newsgroup. The one paragraph description
is enough to decide if a package might be useful, and wherever they come
from it would be nice to have a package->description tool. Or maybe we
do and I just haven't read about it yet. ;-)
Well, for a brief description of what a menu entry does, you can put
the mouse pointer on the entry and get a tool tip. On the other
hand, adding an option to the right-click menu to read more about
the application would be handy...
Mikkel
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9:56 a.m.
Kevin Kofler wrote:
brian wrote:
> Thanks, Sam & Georgi. I'm having a little PDF issue: ghostscript is
> complaining but Document Viewer is not. I needed to know that app is for
> debugging info. This is perfect.
Yet another reason why programs should be named with their actual name in
the menus, not some generic name. :-/ This crap really needs to get fixed.
I think you have lost sight of the user here, the average user would see
"evince" in a menu and have zero idea what it is and does. It is a meaningless
collections of vowels and consonants which are unrelated to the function. The
name of the application should be available, but not at the expense of something
useful to typical user.
document viewer (evince)
document viewer (xpdf)
for examples.
Having the document viewer in graphics is probably not optimal, but there isn't
a perfect place on the menus, maybe "office" is a bit more intuitive.
FYI, for next time, the easiest way to figure out what something
like "Document Viewer" actually is is to go to Help / About within the
program.
In a perfect world there would be a click to get a useful description off the
menu. Until then "about" is a good thing to remember.
I find that I learn about a bunch of obscurely named packages by reading the
packages released feed or newsgroup. The one paragraph description is enough to
decide if a package might be useful, and wherever they come from it would be
nice to have a package->description tool. Or maybe we do and I just haven't read
about it yet. ;-)
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"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
11:46 p.m.
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:37 PM, brian <fedora(a)logi.ca> wrote:
David wrote:
>
> On 5/6/2009 10:28 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>>
>> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 10:12 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Other than a few well recognized brands like Firefox, generally end
>>>> users don't know or care about the application names and only the
>>>> functionality that it offers.
>>>
>>> I disagree. I have at least three PDF viewers installed, any of which
>>> could legitimately call itself "Document Viewer". Until the day
comes
>>> when there is Only One True Viewer, this is going to persist, and
>>> obscuring the real name of the app helps no-one.
>
>>> Why not "Evince Document Viewer"?
>
>>> poc
>
>> Also, if you are going to have a generic name, at lease have the
>> option of picking the application in the Preferred Application menu.
>> It is there for your WEB browser, mail reader, and a few others...
>
>
> Why don't you edit your menus to fit you own needs and wishes?
>
Isn't that what Patrick was suggesting?
Anyway, thanks all for the responses. It's heartening to know that I'm not
the only person who thought that was unnecessarily cryptic.
You're not the only one. KDE 4.2 currently has this Gnomish behavior
by default, and it's driving me crazy. I've been informed however,
that it will soon be fixed.
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9:37 p.m.
David wrote:
On 5/6/2009 10:28 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 10:12 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>> Other than a few well recognized brands like Firefox, generally end
>>> users don't know or care about the application names and only the
>>> functionality that it offers.
>> I disagree. I have at least three PDF viewers installed, any of which
>> could legitimately call itself "Document Viewer". Until the day comes
>> when there is Only One True Viewer, this is going to persist, and
>> obscuring the real name of the app helps no-one.
>> Why not "Evince Document Viewer"?
>> poc
> Also, if you are going to have a generic name, at lease have the
> option of picking the application in the Preferred Application menu.
> It is there for your WEB browser, mail reader, and a few others...
Why don't you edit your menus to fit you own needs and wishes?
Isn't that what Patrick was suggesting?
Anyway, thanks all for the responses. It's heartening to know that I'm
not the only person who thought that was unnecessarily cryptic.
9:28 p.m.
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 05/06/2009 09:03 AM, brian wrote:
> I just looked (again!) and realise that I'd completely missed the
> "evince" part. What the heck is an "evince", anyway?
>
> (rhetorical question--I'm sure it's something like an ogg)
You could have easily looked it up.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/evince
Other than a few well recognized brands like Firefox, generally end
users don't know or care about the application names and only the
functionality that it offers.
Rahul
That rushing sound you here is the joke sailing over your head.
12:03 p.m.
On 5/6/2009 12:10 PM, Tim wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 10:36 -0400, David wrote:
> Why don't you edit your menus to fit you own needs and wishes?
Easy enough for those of us that know about it, not so good for
anyone
else. Tell someone to load a page in Evince, and they can't find it.
Tell someone to load something in the document viewer, and you can get
an equally blank stare. They may not have it installed (what do you get
for yum install document viewer?), they may not find a document viewer
in the *graphics* menu, they may have more than one document viewer.
And, I seem to recall, that any time I customised a menu, my changes got
done with the next yum update to that application.
All in all, you present a poor argument compared against the system
having sensible settings in the first place.
I have been around Linux for about ten years or so now. I have always made
mine look and act like I wanted it to look and act. How did I do that? By
RTM, the Release Notes, things such as that, and asking questions. I did the
same thing when I used Windows.
As for me? I'm just user. You need to complain to the people that maintain
the menus. And I have no idea if any of them follow this general helper
list. Personally I would think not. And personally I don't care.
Rather than type here may I suggest that you use Bugzilla? Ask for a change
in the way the menu is laid out. That way you will get their attention. And
a much better argument too. :-)
Have a nice day.
--
David
10:33 a.m.
On 5/6/2009 11:03 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
David wrote:
> On 5/6/2009 10:28 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> Also, if you are going to have a generic name, at lease have
the
>> option of picking the application in the Preferred Application menu.
>> It is there for your WEB browser, mail reader, and a few others...
> Why don't you edit your menus to fit you own needs and
wishes?
I do. But if you are going to have a program that lets you pick the
application for some generic menu entries, it would make sense to
have it configure ALL generic application entries.
I always thought it was one of those 'Linux for Newbies' things. To make
things easier for them when they start out and not to scare them off with a
bunch of strange names.
IE: I want to open a document so "Document Viewer" sounds right. As opposed
to gedit or kedit or vim or many others. Or Web Browser. Or Email. And not
the actual name of the applications.
And if the Fedora folks found something better they would not have to edit
all of the menu entry titles.
However. I also edit my menus. I deselect things that I don't use and change
the listings to suit my wants and wishes.
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11:10 a.m.
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 10:36 -0400, David wrote:
Why don't you edit your menus to fit you own needs and wishes?
Easy enough for those of us that know about it, not so good for anyone
else. Tell someone to load a page in Evince, and they can't find it.
Tell someone to load something in the document viewer, and you can get
an equally blank stare. They may not have it installed (what do you get
for yum install document viewer?), they may not find a document viewer
in the *graphics* menu, they may have more than one document viewer.
And, I seem to recall, that any time I customised a menu, my changes got
done with the next yum update to that application.
All in all, you present a poor argument compared against the system
having sensible settings in the first place.
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10:43 a.m.
On Wednesday 06 May 2009, Tim wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 05:10 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Yet another reason why programs should be named with their actual name
> in the menus, not some generic name. :-/ This crap really needs to get
> fixed.
Seconded! The menus should directly say "Evince document viewer," let
any pop-up additional help say something else (what it does). And it's
less than helpful that Evince is in the graphics menu, in Gnome. I
wouldn't ever expect to find a document viewer in a menu where I expect
to find things for dealing with JPEG files, and the like.
Neither would I. That's busted. plain & simple.
Kevin: I tried to reply to your post last night, and verizon has now decided
this list is spam, I hope this gets through.
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10:03 a.m.
David wrote:
On 5/6/2009 10:28 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Also, if you are going to have a generic name, at lease have the
> option of picking the application in the Preferred Application menu.
> It is there for your WEB browser, mail reader, and a few others...
Why don't you edit your menus to fit you own needs and wishes?
I do. But if you are going to have a program that lets you pick the
application for some generic menu entries, it would make sense to
have it configure ALL generic application entries.
Mikkel
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9:36 a.m.
On 5/6/2009 10:28 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 10:12 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Other than a few well recognized brands like Firefox, generally end
>> users don't know or care about the application names and only the
>> functionality that it offers.
> I disagree. I have at least three PDF viewers installed, any of which
> could legitimately call itself "Document Viewer". Until the day comes
> when there is Only One True Viewer, this is going to persist, and
> obscuring the real name of the app helps no-one.
> Why not "Evince Document Viewer"?
> poc
Also, if you are going to have a generic name, at lease have the
option of picking the application in the Preferred Application menu.
It is there for your WEB browser, mail reader, and a few others...
Why don't you edit your menus to fit you own needs and wishes?
--
David
9:28 a.m.
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 10:12 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
> Other than a few well recognized brands like Firefox, generally end
> users don't know or care about the application names and only the
> functionality that it offers.
I disagree. I have at least three PDF viewers installed, any of which
could legitimately call itself "Document Viewer". Until the day comes
when there is Only One True Viewer, this is going to persist, and
obscuring the real name of the app helps no-one.
Why not "Evince Document Viewer"?
poc
Also, if you are going to have a generic name, at lease have the
option of picking the application in the Preferred Application menu.
It is there for your WEB browser, mail reader, and a few others...
Mikkel
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for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
9:03 a.m.
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 10:12 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 05/06/2009 09:03 AM, brian wrote:
>
> I just looked (again!) and realise that I'd completely missed the
> "evince" part. What the heck is an "evince", anyway?
>
> (rhetorical question--I'm sure it's something like an ogg)
You could have easily looked it up.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/evince
Other than a few well recognized brands like Firefox, generally end
users don't know or care about the application names and only the
functionality that it offers.
I disagree. I have at least three PDF viewers installed, any of which
could legitimately call itself "Document Viewer". Until the day comes
when there is Only One True Viewer, this is going to persist, and
obscuring the real name of the app helps no-one.
Why not "Evince Document Viewer"?
poc
10:10 p.m.
brian wrote:
Thanks, Sam & Georgi. I'm having a little PDF issue:
ghostscript is
complaining but Document Viewer is not. I needed to know that app is for
debugging info. This is perfect.
Yet another reason why programs should be named with their actual name in
the menus, not some generic name. :-/ This crap really needs to get fixed.
FYI, for next time, the easiest way to figure out what something
like "Document Viewer" actually is is to go to Help / About within the
program.
Kevin Kofler
4:49 a.m.
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 05:10 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Yet another reason why programs should be named with their actual
name
in the menus, not some generic name. :-/ This crap really needs to get
fixed.
Seconded! The menus should directly say "Evince document viewer," let
any pop-up additional help say something else (what it does). And it's
less than helpful that Evince is in the graphics menu, in Gnome. I
wouldn't ever expect to find a document viewer in a menu where I expect
to find things for dealing with JPEG files, and the like.
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11:42 p.m.
On 05/06/2009 09:03 AM, brian wrote:
I just looked (again!) and realise that I'd completely missed the
"evince" part. What the heck is an "evince", anyway?
(rhetorical question--I'm sure it's something like an ogg)
You could have easily looked it up.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/evince
Other than a few well recognized brands like Firefox, generally end
users don't know or care about the application names and only the
functionality that it offers.
Rahul
10:33 p.m.
Kevin Kofler wrote:
brian wrote:
> Thanks, Sam & Georgi. I'm having a little PDF issue: ghostscript is
> complaining but Document Viewer is not. I needed to know that app is for
> debugging info. This is perfect.
Yet another reason why programs should be named with their actual name in
the menus, not some generic name. :-/ This crap really needs to get fixed.
Amen to that! I was trying to be polite but, to be honest, this really
was pretty annoying.
FYI, for next time, the easiest way to figure out what something
like "Document Viewer" actually is is to go to Help / About within the
program.
I just looked (again!) and realise that I'd completely missed the
"evince" part. What the heck is an "evince", anyway?
(rhetorical question--I'm sure it's something like an ogg)
1:51 p.m.
Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/5/5 brian <fedora(a)logi.ca>:
> FC10
>
> I only see a reference to this "Document Viewer" app in the Nautilus
"open
> as" dialog. There's nothing in the Applications menu and apropos
doesn't
> show anything. I'd like to know what the app is called and the version.
[sam@machine ~]$ rpm -qi evince | egrep "(Name|Summary|Version|Release)"
Name : evince Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 2.24.2 Vendor: Fedora Project
Release : 1.fc10 Build Date: Tue 25 Nov
2008 02:59:51 GMT
Summary : Document viewer
Thanks, Sam & Georgi. I'm having a little PDF issue: ghostscript is
complaining but Document Viewer is not. I needed to know that app is for
debugging info. This is perfect.
1:25 p.m.
2009/5/5 brian <fedora(a)logi.ca>:
FC10
I only see a reference to this "Document Viewer" app in the Nautilus
"open
as" dialog. There's nothing in the Applications menu and apropos doesn't
show anything. I'd like to know what the app is called and the version.
[sam@machine ~]$ rpm -qi evince | egrep "(Name|Summary|Version|Release)"
Name : evince Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 2.24.2 Vendor: Fedora Project
Release : 1.fc10 Build Date: Tue 25 Nov
2008 02:59:51 GMT
Summary : Document viewer
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Sam
1:23 p.m.
Hi,
brian написа:
FC10
I only see a reference to this "Document Viewer" app in the Nautilus
"open as" dialog. There's nothing in the Applications menu and apropos
doesn't show anything. I'd like to know what the app is called and the
version.
http://projects.gnome.org/evince/
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