Hey Akira, isn't the google-noto-emoji-fonts used for displaying of emojis in F28 from now on? Or is some different font used for it? (I know I've read some release note for F28 saying something about better emoji support.) Also, I would say Liberation fonts might be quite used by Red Hat folks (https://brand.redhat.com/elements/typography/), so it might be nice to keep it. On the other hand, I understand the point to not pollute people's environment unless really necessary. :) Others can be IMHO removed from default installation... ;) David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] Associate Software Engineer Brno, Czech Republic RED HAT | TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. Every airline in the Fortune 500 relies on Red Hat. Find out why at Trusted | Red Hat. On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > Hi, > > There might seems some extra font packages being installed by default. > I rewrote a script to generate the default font table [1] to estimate > with more accurate way and checked fonts group with it. > > Here is the list of font packages not used for any languages as a > default font. if no particular reasons to keep it in default, I'll > propose to move them to optional. please comment if you have. and > maybe good to keep the reason as a comment in comps perhaps. > > aajohan-comfortaa-fonts (from commit log; moved to default because of > design-suite) > abattis-cantarell-fonts (default font in GNOME) > google-noto-emoji-fonts > google-noto-sans-lisu-fonts > google-noto-sans-mandaic-fonts > google-noto-sans-meetei-mayek-fonts > google-noto-sans-tagalog-fonts > google-noto-sans-tai-tham-fonts > google-noto-sans-tai-viet-fonts > julietaula-montserrat-fonts (from commit log; moved to default because > of design-suite) > liberation-mono-fonts > liberation-sans-fonts > liberation-serif-fonts > paratype-pt-sans-fonts > sil-mingzat-fonts (moved to default for Lapcha script but no orth in > fontconfig. need this?) > tabish-eeyek-fonts (moved to default for Meitei but not satisfying > coverage for mni. need this?) > > [1] https://tagoh.fedorapeople.org/fonts/f28-defaultfonts-mock.html > -- > Akira TAGOH > _______________________________________________ > fonts mailing list -- fonts(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to fonts-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org

Le 2018-05-10 07:29, Akira TAGOH a écrit : Hi Akira Thanks for the clean up! > paratype-pt-sans-fonts This one is tricky, it was commissioned by the Russian government because of insatisfaction on the quality of Cyrillic glyphs in common fonts. Technical warts aside, I'd expect it to have the most correct glyph shapes for Russian cyrillic, declining every Cyrillic symbol in use in the Russian Federation (including non-standardized stuff in PUA:( used to write minority non-Russian languages in the country). But I have not got the faintest idea if actual Russian users prefer it over less correct but more common fonts like Noto. You should ask Russian Fedora groups/Russian Fedora ambassadors about it. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot

Le 2018-05-12 09:52, Akira TAGOH a écrit : > Thanks for the feedback. > > Apparently the default font for Russian is DejaVu at this moment, even > though all of fonts including optional is installed. so if > paratype-pt-sans-fonts is better, good to change the default. let me > ask. > Aside from that, do we need to keep this in default no matter what the > font the community prefer as their default font? If people prefer it, default in the locale groups associated with Russia, certainly. Default for everyone? No unless Russians say they hate DejaVu cyrillic (I don't think so, but that's their scripts)

Hi, On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:59 AM Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > Hi, > > There might seems some extra font packages being installed by default. > I rewrote a script to generate the default font table [1] to estimate > with more accurate way and checked fonts group with it. > > Here is the list of font packages not used for any languages as a > default font. if no particular reasons to keep it in default, I'll > propose to move them to optional. please comment if you have. and > maybe good to keep the reason as a comment in comps perhaps. > > aajohan-comfortaa-fonts (from commit log; moved to default because of > design-suite) > abattis-cantarell-fonts (default font in GNOME) > google-noto-emoji-fonts > google-noto-sans-lisu-fonts > google-noto-sans-mandaic-fonts > google-noto-sans-meetei-mayek-fonts > google-noto-sans-tagalog-fonts > google-noto-sans-tai-tham-fonts > google-noto-sans-tai-viet-fonts > julietaula-montserrat-fonts (from commit log; moved to default because > of design-suite) > liberation-mono-fonts > liberation-sans-fonts > liberation-serif-fonts > paratype-pt-sans-fonts > sil-mingzat-fonts (moved to default for Lapcha script but no orth in > fontconfig. need this?) > > tabish-eeyek-fonts (moved to default for Meitei but not satisfying > coverage for mni. need this?) I think we got some mismatch here. The mni language uses 2 scripts Bengali and Meetei Mayek. We have fontconfig orth file for mni using Bengali only as its preferred by Government. So, ideally any Bengali font should work for mni language. The tabish-eeyek-fonts is based on Meetei Mayek script but we have no covering orth file. Let's move this font to optional fonts group. Regards, Parag. _______________________________________________ fonts mailing list -- fonts(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to fonts-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: ${hyperkitty_url}