--- On Sat, 6/14/08, Mike Bird <mgb-fedora(a)yosemite.net> wrote:
From: Mike Bird <mgb-fedora(a)yosemite.net>
Subject: Re: [OT] Are security updates necessary?
To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 5:06 PM
On Sat June 14 2008 16:37:11 Antonio Olivares wrote:
> I have run old version of KDE 3.1 from Mandrake 9.1
gotten on internet, no
> single update whatsoever, and I have been safe. So it
can be done, do you
> mean other updates, that can be critical, with apps
and not the desktop
> here.
Some people manage to walk through a minefield without
being blown up.
They were lucky, but not safe.
We are never guaranteed anything in life. There are only two sure things,
Death and Taxes :(
<quote from
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/b/benjamin_franklin.html>
Certainty? In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.
Benjamin Franklin
</quote>
Security bugs have been fixed in web browsing, email,
firewalls,
displaying pictures, viewing pdfs, and opening documents.
Without
those fixes your system may not have been compromised (but
how to
be certain, eh?) but you certainly would not have been
safe.
Yes, I found out later, so I trashed Mandrake and installed FreeBSD onto that
machine :) Fedora would not install, Fedora 8/Fedora 9 would I complain? not so (Machine
is too old, so I cannot blame Fedora/Fedora Developers/other fellow Fedora users). I
connect to the internet with Slax on that machine, since I do not want to waste time
configuring ppp in FreeBSD. I can connect with RoFreeSBIE to the internet if I want to,
but I prefer Slax here. It works for me like I want it. It at least works, and is not
taking up space at a dumpster.
Meanwhile, back at the KDE ranch ...
This is a very hard issue, and I kind of understand your points and many other
users might sympathize with you, if you have been on this list for sometime, I kind of
hinted that many KDE users would be unhappy, but that is the price one has to pay for
innovation. Still KDE4 is functional, but if you want to use it in Fedora you will have
to sacrifice some of your time and effort to get it working like you want. There's no
way back or out of KDE 4 in Fedora 9 or higher via Fedora Developers. There are many good
things :) and there are some things that need to be worked on :(, if you are loyal to KDE,
you will use it, otherwise move to gnome/xfce/____,. There is not much we can do here, I
want the digital clock back, will I get to see it? I do not know, I wish the developers
consider bringing it back, but it is not a perfect world and one gets what we pay for.
Regards,
Antonio