On Fri, 2005-30-09 at 21:02 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 17:42, Guy Fraser wrote:
> > > > Every release of RHL was a
> > > > tremendous step forward until 8.0 since then there has been one
> > > What was wrong?
> > >
> >
> It had nothing to do with the 2.6 kernel or frequent updates. It
> had to do with dropping support for many of the command line and
> applications many people used and wanted to continue using. It
> also involved changes to the kernel that made it impossible for
> most people to get some of their applications to compile, which
> is partly why they were dropped by Red Hat. Unfortunately if
> anyone were to build their own kernel, they would then have to
> constantly maintain it, whenever security vulnerabilities were
> discovered. In any case things broke without warning and no
> remedies were provided by Red Hat, the package was just dropped
> in the next release. Many of these packages are still maintained
> and available on other distributions, contrary to many of the
> excuses given at the time.
>
> I can not continue, I feel a rant coming on.
I can't think of anything offhand that worked on RH7.x that
doesn't work in Centos3.x. Elm, maybe... Examples???
Elm, Pico, Wine, Word Perfect and Gatos Drivers are all I can think of
now. Some of these may have been fixed by now but I have replaced
hardware and started using terminal services to use the programs I
needed to have running in wine. Some of these are available in other
repositories now, but that did not help back then. It also didn't help
how I felt when I was billed for a one year RHN subscription a month
before the announcement that in 6 months RHL 9 would no longer be
supported.
It's a little late to be concerned about this now, the reputation was
damaged quite a while ago. And the arrogant attitudes that caused the
rift, persist to this day. Unless you have pull within RH, I suggest
you drop the inquisition, all you are doing is reminding me and many
others of problems that upset them from back around that time. If I
didn't have customers using RH products I would not be here now. I have
moved all our servers to FreeBSD and only keep one FC workstation
around for testing.