On 10/30/18 10:10 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 10/29/18 11:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 10/29/18 10:19 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>> On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote:
>>>> On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users
>>>>>>> <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of
the
>>>>>>>>> neck.....by Bruce
>>>>>>>>> Lee! I don't presume to know the first thing
about corporations,
>>>>>>>>> mergers, and long term financials,.... And while Red
Hat was a
>>>>>>>>> corporation per se.....I've always loved Fedora
for being
>>>>>>>>> different, for
>>>>>>>>> being the odd distro that was backed by a major
corporation
>>>>>>>>> ....but was
>>>>>>>>> still able to support itself independently. Now?
I'm just
>>>>>>>>> "leery". I
>>>>>>>>> don't know what plans IBM has for their new found
"toy".....&
>>>>>>>>> I'd rather
>>>>>>>>> not be surprised as others have said. So the question
is:
>>>>>>>>> Are there any .rpm-based distros that would make a
good
>>>>>>>>> replacement for
>>>>>>>>> Fedora?....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Heartbroken in the world of Open Source.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> EGO II
>>>>>>>> Wonderfully stated. The announcement took my breath
away. I hope
>>>>>>>> Fedora gets spun off.
>>>>>>> Unlike the IBM of today, Redhat was not really your average
>>>>>>> capitalist enterprise so they supported Fedora. They had a
long
>>>>>>> view which is not permitted by markets.....In any case, I
doubt
>>>>>>> that Fedora or OSS is an example of any kind of capitalism.
A
>>>>>>> good place to start looking for that would be Somalia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uhhhh. Red Hat uses Fedora as a testing ground for RHEL. RHEL
is
>>>>>> basically a defunct, bug frozen version of Fedora. Red Hat gets
>>>>>> a ton of benefit from Fedora.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The big question is how will IBM look at it. RHEL is pretty
much
>>>>>> unusable for newer software as RHEL is so bug riddled and out of
>>>>>> date.
>>>>> Don't know why you think RHEL is bug riddled. it's stable
and
>>>>> will run for years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of us (many businesses) don't want a new version of Linux
>>>>> every six
>>>>> months, they want systems that will be stable and will run for years
>>>>> with nothing more than the occasional yum update and more occasional
>>>>> reboot. People with many computers can't spend time reinstalling
and
>>>>> re-configuring all of them once or twice every year. And I don't
want
>>>>> to do that with my home systems either. I want something I can use
>>>>> for 2 or 3 years, at least, before enduring the reinstall pain
again.
>>>>>
>>>>> They may use what appears to be an old kernel, but RH does backports
>>>>> of many modern features and bug fixes.
>>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> Why are you using Fedora?
>>>
>>
>> ToddAndMargo:
>>
>> Using/watching what Fedora is doing is a good way to prepare for what
>> might be coming in RHEL/Centos
>>
>> Paul
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Back when I was using RHEL and Clones, I use to say "What goes
> on in Fedora, eventually winds up in RHEL."
Technically, at some point a specific Fedora BECOMES the next RHEL
(and eventually CentOS) release. IIRC, Fedora 18 got frozen and
became RHEL/CentOS 7. That's what I mean about Fedora being essentially
Beta versions of RHEL.
Exactly. And I knew what you meant. Sorry for any misunderstanding.