On 07/07/2014 04:34 AM, lee wrote:
The authors of systemd don't even understand what
"disabled" means.
A pretty bold statement. Disabled means the same thing it does in
sysvinit: the service won't start at boot time.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd#How_do_I_start.2Fstop_or_enable.2F...
When they have all this wrongness, confusion, obfuscation and lack
of
clarity and simplicity in the documentation, how could the source of the
program be any better? Why should I think that the design of the
software is any better than the documentation? It's probably far worse.
[shrug] When I started learning systemd, I assumed that it was my
understanding that was faulty. I studied until I understood it,
beginning with the Fedora and Arch docs (which are exellent) and then
returning to the systemd documentation, which then made much more sense.
That I don't want to read poor documentation is one thing. That
I don't
want to read documentation to do a simple thing --- i. e. start a daemon
--- is another. If not systemd but sysvinit was used, I wouldn't need
to read any documentation to achieve this because I have already read
the documentation.
How long did it take you to learn sysvinit and shell scripting? Yes I
know, you have to learn something new now. It happens, computer
technology does not stand still.
But no, thanks to systemd it's anything but simple to do
something
simple, and I'm forced to waste my time with reading poor documentation.
As I suggested above, you might find it a good idea to read some more
general documentation first before wading into the systemd man pages:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget/
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html
http://rhsummit.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/summit_demystifying_systemd1.pdf
And to hear it straight from Lennart Poettering:
https://access.redhat.com/videos/403833
I highly recommend watching that video from beginning to end.
--
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."