On 08Mar2016 16:49, Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Tim:
Hmm, that doesn't quite work. My mailer, probably most, converts the listed email dates into my local time.
Cameron Simpson
Mine will display either (mutt) but I, like I suspect most, display my local time so that I have intuitive feel for the date of the messages.
If you want to see the order of when messages were written/posted (which are two different things), because you're trying to get a grasp on a thread, then you need things translated into the same timezone. It makes more sense to most people for that to be their own. While it's convenient to have your own and theirs, there's not the space to show them in the message list.
Surely that depends on the width of your terminal? But in practice, mine are not normally wide enough for both either when reading mail; I only use wide ones for log files or wide program output. My message display index looks like this:
08Mar2016 17:19 Tim N ┌> Fedora 3.7K 08Mar2016 16:36 To Users - ┌> Fedora, Mine 2.2K 06Mar2016 16:17 jd1008 - ├> Fedora 3.1K 06Mar2016 15:45 Tim - ┌>Re: hfsplus problems Fedora 3.4K
And showing my local time, as you would expect. (That is all nicely aligned for any unfortunates viewing that listing in a variable width font.)
I presume you meant this one: message-id:56DA07F4.1060000@alldigital.com
Technically, the angle brackets ("<....>") are a part of the message-id, you shouldn't leave them out.
I wasn't aware of that. I thought it was just like in email addresses, where they're a delimiter (email addresses can't contain pointy brackets, so they're a clear indicator of the beginning and end of the address), but not required if there's nothing else nearby.
That depends on your point of view. Technically, this whole thing:
Cameron Simpson cs@zip.com.au
is my email address. A mail system is only meant to pay attention to certain parts of it for delivery purposes, but it is _all_ "my address".
By way of example, if you look at the list headers, you'll notice addresses without them, if they have no other adjacent text.
e.g. To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Another email addressing trick few people know, is that you can put comments in parentheses with an address. The mail servers will not try to parse them, same as how they ignore your name, and only parse the actual address to send the message.
e.g. To: John Doe (managing director) jd@example.com
You want to closely read the RFCs for this. There are strict requirements on what is and is not allowed inside and outside parentheses, and the parentheses _are_ structural punctuation: they must match and may nest!
The RFCs have been written to permit most (well, Western, well, English) based human names to be written "bare" in the Full Name localpart@hostpart form; you can use bare apostrophes for example. But not double quotes! They are punctuation!
If you suspect someone you write to is responsible for spam coming in your direction, you can slightly tailor your personal details outside of the address, and see if they get passed along, to confirm your suspicions.
Ah. Disinformation! Neat. Has this ever paid off for you?
Cheers, Cameron Simpson cs@zip.com.au