On 09/27/2011 11:59 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 09/26/2011 11:59 PM, Roger wrote:
> On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote:
>> On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>>> Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them
>>> free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers
>>> have no responsibility to listen to user's complaints.
>>>
>>> However, the Fedora users provide a service to the ReHat company of
>>> identifying bugs that otherwise would show up to annoy the paying users
>>> of RedHat Enterprise .
>>>
>>> This is probably a weak argument to support the developers of Fedora
>>> software listening to its users but what is clear is the current
>>> situation leaves a bad taste in the mouths of the current Fedora
>>> user-base. Clearly developers can ignore our complaints, but I have no
>>> evidence that the paying Enterprise customers will be more tolerant of
>>> the strange direction that RedHat is taking.
>> This is all too vague for me to understand. What are you talking about?
>>
> Some say that the new Fedora GUI is unhelpful and possibly difficult to
> use, preferring a simpler desktop.
Ahh, this is all about GNOME 3. It's very unfair to describe the
actions/attitude of GNOME developers at that of all Fedora developers.
As long as Fedora ship a "first release", as you prefer to call it, as
"default DE", people will identify and set equal "Fedora" with
"Gnome3".
I find this very relatable and therefore find "throwing Fedora and
Gnome3 into one big bowl" to be not without justification.
> This resulted in a discussion touching on the developers
responsibility
> to users, if any.
> Ubuntu and Fedora 14 offers the choice of new or classic.
Not to mention KDE and XFCE.
GNOME 3 is, to say the least, controversial. Ubuntu Unity hasn't had a
uniformly great reception either.
Agreed. As I see it, both Ubuntu and Fedora's
managements seem to be
addicted to the same "GUI/DE cult".
They both seem to be missing that both "Gnome 3" and "Unity" are
aiming at a user-base, which is entirely different from the
corresponding distributions' user-bases.
This new new-user-base likely is (mostly) satisfied, but many of these
distros' "old long term supporters and users" simply feel their so far
choosen distro's DE doesn't suite their needs anymore.
Ralf