9:27 a.m.
How to configure 24 hour time, instead of AM/PM, in Thunderbird 62.2.0
nd/or 62.2.2.
Presently I have created /usr/bin/thunderbird24h:
/usr/bin/thunderbird24h:
#!/bin/sh
LC_TIME=C
export LC_TIME
/usr/bin/thunderbird
and rebooted but the AM/PM time is still being used. Have I nissed
something or has something changed since Fedora-20?
2:07 p.m.
On 11/15/19 7:27 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
How to configure 24 hour time, instead of AM/PM, in Thunderbird
62.2.0
nd/or 62.2.2.
Presently I have created /usr/bin/thunderbird24h:
/usr/bin/thunderbird24h:
#!/bin/sh
LC_TIME=C
export LC_TIME
/usr/bin/thunderbird
and rebooted but the AM/PM time is still being used. Have I nissed
something or has something changed since Fedora-20?
I remember a thread about this a while back and I don't think there was
any solution found. I even tried building my own locale file and that
didn't seem to work.
2:23 p.m.
On 11/15/19 3:07 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
I remember a thread about this a while back and I don't think there
was any solution found. I even tried building my own locale file and
that didn't seem to work.
__
.
Yes that was probably me, I feel like I've been through this several
times before, the versions change but the problem persists ... I guess I
will just have to stick with Fedora-29 if I really want stuff to work,
to my satisfaction, painlessly.
I keep hoping it will get better with time.
Thanks for responding,
Bob
8:23 p.m.
On 2019-11-16 04:07, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 11/15/19 7:27 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> How to configure 24 hour time, instead of AM/PM, in Thunderbird 62.2.0 nd/or 62.2.2.
>
> Presently I have created /usr/bin/thunderbird24h:
>
> /usr/bin/thunderbird24h:
> #!/bin/sh
> LC_TIME=C
> export LC_TIME
> /usr/bin/thunderbird
>
> and rebooted but the AM/PM time is still being used. Have I nissed something or has
something changed since Fedora-20?
I remember a thread about this a while back and I don't think there was any solution
found. I even tried building my own locale file and that didn't seem to work.
FWIW, I now have this working fine in F31/KDE.
It works fine when launching T-Bird from the "Application Laucher" in the
"Favorites" section as well as the "Applications--->Internet"
section. As well as from a keyboard shortcut.
I used the "Edit Applications" function of the Launcher to edit the T-Bird entry
in the "Applications--->Internet" section.
I modified that entry to have the command be "LC_TIME=C thunderbird %u".
I then started T-Bird and checked the box in Preferences--->Advanced which is shown as
Regional settings locale: und
I think similar things can be done depending on the desktop in use. I forget what Bob is
using. :-) :-)
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4:47 a.m.
On Fri, 2019-11-15 at 10:27 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
How to configure 24 hour time, instead of AM/PM, in Thunderbird
62.2.0 nd/or 62.2.2.
I found this advice on https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1228724
An option under "Tools > Options, Advanced, General" now allows to
select whether date/time display will follow the application locale
(adjusted by operating system's format settings for that locale) or the
locale selected in the operating system's regional settings. In other
words, an US English Thunderbird can use, for example, German formats.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/d9jrqa/how_to_get_24hour_ti...
I had LANG and LC_ALL set to a language where time is 24h format, but I
switched to english because I don't want messages in that language. I
was faced with a 12h-time format everywhere. If I remember correctly,
unset LC_ALL in .bashrc helped here.
&
Changed desktop launcher's command string from
/opt/thunderbird/thunderbird
to
env LC_TIME=en_DK.utf8 /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird
relaunch Thunderbird, and it seems to have worked.
Are any of them any help?
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5:31 a.m.
On 11/16/19 5:47 AM, Tim via users wrote:
On Fri, 2019-11-15 at 10:27 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> How to configure 24 hour time, instead of AM/PM, in Thunderbird
> 62.2.0 nd/or 62.2.2.
I found this advice on https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1228724
An option under "Tools > Options, Advanced, General" now allows to
select whether date/time display will follow the application locale
(adjusted by operating system's format settings for that locale) or the
locale selected in the operating system's regional settings. In other
words, an US English Thunderbird can use, for example, German formats.
.
It appears Thunderbird 68.2.2 does not have "Tools > Options." I don't
see Options anywhere? So I will work my way through the remaining
suggestions ...
24 hour time seems like sucb a basic need, always wondered why it
wasn''t included as an option from the beginning with the earliest
computers? There must be some insurmountable difficulty in adding that
as an option.
There has been a Config Date and time AddOn that added a GMT offset
number to a displayed sender's time which I always looked at when
reading messages. That seems unavailable now, my Fedora-29 system still
has all this stuff. Anyway I find 24 hour time less confusing than the
AM/PM format.
Thanks for the help, Bob
.
>
>
https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/d9jrqa/how_to_get_24hour_ti...
>
> I had LANG and LC_ALL set to a language where time is 24h format, but I
> switched to english because I don't want messages in that language. I
> was faced with a 12h-time format everywhere. If I remember correctly,
> unset LC_ALL in .bashrc helped here.Changed desktop launcher's command string
from
> /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird
> to
> env LC_TIME=en_DK.utf8 /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird
> relaunch Thunderbird, and it seems to have worked.
>
> Are any of them any help?
>
6:13 a.m.
On 11/16/19 7:31 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 11/16/19 5:47 AM, Tim via users wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-11-15 at 10:27 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>> How to configure 24 hour time, instead of AM/PM, in Thunderbird
>> 62.2.0 nd/or 62.2.2.
> I found this advice on https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1228724
>
> An option under "Tools > Options, Advanced, General" now allows to
> select whether date/time display will follow the application locale
> (adjusted by operating system's format settings for that locale) or the
> locale selected in the operating system's regional settings. In other
> words, an US English Thunderbird can use, for example, German formats.
.
It appears Thunderbird 68.2.2 does not have "Tools > Options." I don't
see Options anywhere? So I will work my way through the remaining suggestions ...
It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced"
24 hour time seems like sucb a basic need, always wondered why it wasn''t
included as an option from the beginning with the earliest computers? There must be some
insurmountable difficulty in adding that as an option.
Most folks in the US don't know how to deal with 24hr time.
There has been a Config Date and time AddOn that added a GMT offset number to a displayed
sender's time which I always looked at when reading messages. That seems unavailable
now, my Fedora-29 system still has all this stuff. Anyway I find 24 hour time less
confusing than the AM/PM format.
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8:22 a.m.
Le 16/11/2019 à 07:13, Ed Greshko a écrit :
It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced"
.
Well that works, but to my surprise English UK seems to still use AM/PM
12 hours? French does 24 hour time however I don't know if it will let
me use an Englsh spell checker, it seems it should ?
If they can have all those language options why notan English 34 hourrs?
/get frustrated with Thunderbird but it's the only one I've tried that
does most of what I want, however that advantage seems to shrink wuth
each "improvemed" version they produce./
9:04 a.m.
On 11/16/19 9:22 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Le 16/11/2019 à 07:13, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced"
.
Well that works, but to my surprise English UK seems to still use
AM/PM 12 hours? French does 24 hour time however I don't know if it
will let me use an Englsh spell checker, it seems it should ?
If they can have all those language options why notan English 34
hourrs? /get frustrated with Thunderbird but it's the only one I've
tried that does most of what I want, however that advantage seems to
shrink wuth each "improvemed" version they produce./
,
Well that's another failed attempt at fixing my problem, I am not
comfortable in French although it does work for me, it changes the theme
in places to a blavk on white display that I need a magnifier to read? I
also need an English spell checker running, /am a lousy typist/. I'll
just deal with the stupid AM/PM time display for today.
-
Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
10:25 a.m.
< Well that's another failed attempt at fixing my problem, I am not
comfortable in French although it does work for me, it changes the theme in
places to a blavk on white
< display that I need a magnifier to read? I also need an English spell
checker running, *am a lousy typist*. I'll just deal with the stupid AM/PM
time display for today.
-
< Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
A simple solution that worked for me with Thunderbird 68.1.1 on Fedora 30
(X86_64):
to ~/.bashrc add the line
export LC_TIME="C"
log out and back in and Thunderbird shows 24-hour format.
HTH
Stephen
On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 10:05, Bob Goodwin <bobgoodwin(a)fastmail.us> wrote:
On 11/16/19 9:22 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Le 16/11/2019 à 07:13, Ed Greshko a écrit :
It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced"
.
Well that works, but to my surprise English UK seems to still use AM/PM 12
hours? French does 24 hour time however I don't know if it will let me use
an Englsh spell checker, it seems it should ?
If they can have all those language options why notan English 34 hourrs?
/get frustrated with Thunderbird but it's the only one I've tried that does
most of what I want, however that advantage seems to shrink wuth each
"improvemed" version they produce./
,
Well that's another failed attempt at fixing my problem, I am not
comfortable in French although it does work for me, it changes the theme in
places to a blavk on white display that I need a magnifier to read? I also
need an English spell checker running, *am a lousy typist*. I'll just
deal with the stupid AM/PM time display for today.
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New subject: EXTERNAL: Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -
On 11/16/19 11:27 AM, Stephen Perkins wrote:
< Well that's another failed attempt at fixing my problem, I am not comfortable in
French although it does work for me, it changes the theme in places to a blavk on white
< display that I need a magnifier to read? I also need an English spell checker
running, am a lousy typist. I'll just deal with the stupid AM/PM time display for
today.
-
< Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
A simple solution that worked for me with Thunderbird 68.1.1 on Fedora 30 (X86_64):
to ~/.bashrc add the line
export LC_TIME="C"
log out and back in and Thunderbird shows 24-hour format.
that worked here, just had to set time formatting back to regional in preferences
HTH
Stephen
On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 10:05, Bob Goodwin
<bobgoodwin@fastmail.us<mailto:bobgoodwin@fastmail.us>> wrote:
On 11/16/19 9:22 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Le 16/11/2019 à 07:13, Ed Greshko a écrit :
It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced"
.
Well that works, but to my surprise English UK seems to still use AM/PM 12 hours? French
does 24 hour time however I don't know if it will let me use an Englsh spell checker,
it seems it should ?
If they can have all those language options why notan English 34 hourrs? /get frustrated
with Thunderbird but it's the only one I've tried that does most of what I want,
however that advantage seems to shrink wuth each "improvemed" version they
produce./
,
Well that's another failed attempt at fixing my problem, I am not comfortable in
French although it does work for me, it changes the theme in places to a blavk on white
display that I need a magnifier to read? I also need an English spell checker running, am
a lousy typist. I'll just deal with the stupid AM/PM time display for today.
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1:20 p.m.
On 2019-11-16 11:25, Stephen Perkins wrote:
A simple solution that worked for me with Thunderbird 68.1.1 on Fedora
30 (X86_64):
to ~/.bashrc add the line
export LC_TIME="C"
log out and back in and Thunderbird shows 24-hour format.
HTH
Stephen
.
Yes that works! I had to reset time back to the regional setting in
Thunderbird preferences and I rebooted the system rather than just
logging out and in, since I had tried several times earlier, although
re-logging might have worked.
The important thing is I now get 24 hour time for messages.
Thanks for the suggestion, Bob
.
Yes that works!
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7:17 p.m.
On 17/11/19 01:22, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Le 16/11/2019 à 07:13, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced"
.
Well that works, but to my surprise English UK seems to still use
AM/PM 12 hours? French does 24 hour time however I don't know if it
will let me use an Englsh spell checker, it seems it should ?
If they can have all those language options why notan English 34
hourrs? /get frustrated with Thunderbird but it's the only one I've
tried that does most of what I want, however that advantage seems to
shrink wuth each "improvemed" version they produce./
For me it didn't
work. I have Thunderbird set to the Regional locale of
Australia and the gnome preferences are set to 24 hour time, but
Thunderbird still displayed the dates long format with 12 hour time. To
get Thunderbird to show 24 hour time I had to de-activate "Automatic
Date and Time" in the gnome preferences, which caused Thunderbird to
display times in 24 hour format but it displayed dates in short format
even though the date preferences in gnome were set to long format. In
order to get the date format in Thunderbird I wanted, I had to install
the addon "Configdate" which provides access to a hidden configuration
setting in Thunderbird. With this addon I could set the data format on
"today's mail" to time only, this weeks mail to long format and
everything else to short format. In all of these options the time is
displayed in the system option of 24 hours.
regards,
Steve
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7:34 p.m.
On 18/11/19 12:17, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 17/11/19 01:22, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>
> Le 16/11/2019 à 07:13, Ed Greshko a écrit :
>> It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced"
>
> .
>
> Well that works, but to my surprise English UK seems to still use
> AM/PM 12 hours? French does 24 hour time however I don't know if it
> will let me use an Englsh spell checker, it seems it should ?
>
> If they can have all those language options why notan English 34
> hourrs? /get frustrated with Thunderbird but it's the only one I've
> tried that does most of what I want, however that advantage seems to
> shrink wuth each "improvemed" version they produce./
For me it didn't work. I have Thunderbird set to the Regional locale
of Australia and the gnome preferences are set to 24 hour time, but
Thunderbird still displayed the dates long format with 12 hour time.
To get Thunderbird to show 24 hour time I had to de-activate
"Automatic Date and Time" in the gnome preferences, which caused
Thunderbird to display times in 24 hour format but it displayed dates
in short format even though the date preferences in gnome were set to
long format. In order to get the date format in Thunderbird I wanted,
I had to install the addon "Configdate" which provides access to a
hidden configuration setting in Thunderbird. With this addon I could
set the data format on "today's mail" to time only, this weeks mail to
long format and everything else to short format. In all of these
options the time is displayed in the system option of 24 hours.
On thing I forgot
to mention in my previous thread was this is on F30
with Thunderbird 72.0a1.
regards,
Steve
regards,
Steve
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7:40 p.m.
On 18/11/19 12:34, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 18/11/19 12:17, Stephen Morris wrote:
>
>
> On 17/11/19 01:22, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>>
>> Le 16/11/2019 à 07:13, Ed Greshko a écrit :
>>> It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced"
>>
>> .
>>
>> Well that works, but to my surprise English UK seems to still use
>> AM/PM 12 hours? French does 24 hour time however I don't know if it
>> will let me use an Englsh spell checker, it seems it should ?
>>
>> If they can have all those language options why notan English 34
>> hourrs? /get frustrated with Thunderbird but it's the only one I've
>> tried that does most of what I want, however that advantage seems to
>> shrink wuth each "improvemed" version they produce./
> For me it didn't work. I have Thunderbird set to the Regional locale
> of Australia and the gnome preferences are set to 24 hour time, but
> Thunderbird still displayed the dates long format with 12 hour time.
> To get Thunderbird to show 24 hour time I had to de-activate
> "Automatic Date and Time" in the gnome preferences, which caused
> Thunderbird to display times in 24 hour format but it displayed dates
> in short format even though the date preferences in gnome were set to
> long format. In order to get the date format in Thunderbird I wanted,
> I had to install the addon "Configdate" which provides access to a
> hidden configuration setting in Thunderbird. With this addon I could
> set the data format on "today's mail" to time only, this weeks mail
> to long format and everything else to short format. In all of these
> options the time is displayed in the system option of 24 hours.
On thing I forgot to mention in my previous thread was this is on F30
with Thunderbird 72.0a1.
The other thing that may be useful or may not is,
Thunderbird is
installed in /opt/thunderbird which is still owned by root, but I have
set the acl on the thunderbird directory to give my userid rwx access to
everything within that directory via setfacl.
regards,
Steve
regards,
Steve
>
> regards,
> Steve
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3:12 p.m.
.
I did this the other day and it worked initially but quit and the list
of messages is in 12 hour time again.
A simple solution that worked for me with Thunderbird 68.1.1 on Fedora
30 (X86_64):
to ~/.bashrc add the line
export LC_TIME="C"
Below is a copy of .bashrc with added line at the bottom:
[root@Workstation-1 bobg]# cat ~/.bashrc
# .bashrc
# User specific aliases and functions
alias rm='rm -i'
alias cp='cp -i'
alias mv='mv -i'
# Source global definitions
if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
. /etc/bashrc
fi
What have I done wrong? I just made the same change on a second Fedora
31 computer and it shows 24 hour time ...
6:20 p.m.
On 22/11/19 08:12, Bob Goodwin wrote:
.
I did this the other day and it worked initially but quit and the list
of messages is in 12 hour time again.
A simple solution that worked for me with Thunderbird 68.1.1 on Fedora
30 (X86_64):
to ~/.bashrc add the line
export LC_TIME="C"
Below is a copy of .bashrc with added line at the bottom:
[root@Workstation-1 bobg]# cat ~/.bashrc
# .bashrc
# User specific aliases and functions
alias rm='rm -i'
alias cp='cp -i'
alias mv='mv -i'
# Source global definitions
if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
. /etc/bashrc
fi
Hi Bob, I could be wrong but from the cat ~/.bashrc you have shown here,
the export command isn't there.
regards,
Steve
What have I done wrong? I just made the same change on a second Fedora
31 computer and it shows 24 hour time ...
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7:18 p.m.
On 11/21/19 7:20 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
>
Hi Bob, I could be wrong but from the cat ~/.bashrc you have shown
here, the export command isn't there.
regards,
Steve
.
Yes, you are correct, I botched that ... I confused ~/.bashrc and /home.bobg/.bashrc
After correcting that it is:
[bobg@Workstation-1 ~]$ cat ~/.bashrc
# .bashrc
# Source global definitions
if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
. /etc/bashrc
fi
# User specific environment
if ! [[ "$PATH" =~ "$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:" ]]
then
PATH="$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:$PATH"
fi
export PATH
# Uncomment the following line if you don't like systemctl's auto-paging feature:
# export SYSTEMD_PAGER=
# User specific aliases and functions
export LC_TIME="C"
However after rebooting the computer Thunderbird time is still displayed in the 12 hour
AM/PM format on this
f-31 computer.
the other one works.
.
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Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
7:41 p.m.
On 2019-11-22 09:18, Bob Goodwin wrote:
However after rebooting the computer Thunderbird time is still
displayed in the 12 hour AM/PM format on this
f-31 computer.
FWIW, I'm just "testing" at the moment.
I edited /usr/bin/thunderbird to add at the very beginning
export LC_TIME=C
I then found that in the T-Bird preferences you need to check the box in
Advanced--->Date and Time Formatting
Regional settings locale: und
Don't have the "Application locale" box checked.
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9:38 p.m.
On 2019-11-21 20:41, Ed Greshko wrote:
Advanced--->Date and Time Formatting
Regional settings locale: und
.
I reset Preferences > Advanced > Regional ,... :und and the 24
hour time reappeared. Something caused that to change, an update, or
something else I did? I dunno, but now I know what may fix it if it
happens again.
Thanks for the help, Bob
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Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
9:45 p.m.
On 22/11/19 12:18, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 11/21/19 7:20 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
>>
> Hi Bob, I could be wrong but from the cat ~/.bashrc you have shown
> here, the export command isn't there.
>
> regards,
> Steve
.
Yes, you are correct, I botched that ... I confused ~/.bashrc and /home.bobg/.bashrc
After correcting that it is:
[bobg@Workstation-1 ~]$ cat ~/.bashrc
# .bashrc
# Source global definitions
if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
. /etc/bashrc
fi
# User specific environment
if ! [[ "$PATH" =~ "$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:" ]]
then
PATH="$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:$PATH"
fi
export PATH
# Uncomment the following line if you don't like systemctl's auto-paging
feature:
# export SYSTEMD_PAGER=
# User specific aliases and functions
export LC_TIME="C"
However after rebooting the computer Thunderbird time is still displayed in the 12 hour
AM/PM format on this
f-31 computer.
the other one works.
.
--
Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
Hi Bob,
I don't use the LC_TIME="C" option. What I found with Thunderbird
72.0a1 was that in order to get Thunderbird to display times in 24 hour
format, I had to go into Gnome Settings->Details->Date&Time (where I
already had the time format specified as 24-hour) and turn off the
Automatic Date & Time setting. Having done this Thunderbird immediately
displayed times in 24-hour format. The disadvantage with doing this is I
will potentially lose the automatic catering of Leap Seconds. One
interesting thing with this 24-hour time setting in the Gnome
preferences was that while Thunderbird was displaying its times in 12
hour format, Gnome was displaying times in 24-hour format.
Once I got Thunderbird displaying times in 24 hour format I then
installed the ConfigDate addon into Thunderbird to set some "hidden"
options in Thunderbird to specify how I want the date/time for mail
received today displayed, what I want for the display for mail received
this week, and what I want displayed for all other mail.
In the past when I've used the export function I've had mixed
success with it in terms of sometimes it would work and sometimes it
wouldn't. I'm also not sure whether that export works if Thunderbird is
launched from the desktop, or whether it only works from the bash shell
Thunderbird is launched from.
regards,
Steve
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12:49 a.m.
On Sat, 2019-11-23 at 14:45 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
What I found with Thunderbird 72.0a1 was that in order to get
Thunderbird to display times in 24 hour format, I had to go into
Gnome Settings->Details->Date&Time (where I already had the time
format specified as 24-hour) and turn off the Automatic Date & Time
setting. Having done this Thunderbird immediately displayed times in
24-hour format. The disadvantage with doing this is I will
potentially lose the automatic catering of Leap Seconds.
You'll lose more than that. You'll lose automatic correction of your
time, all year round. Computers don't keep time very well, and need
tweaking with the real time periodically. There's a reason that NTP,
and the like, do it all day long.
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12:01 p.m.
On 11/16/2019 04:31 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
It appears Thunderbird 68.2.2 does not have "Tools >
Options." I don't
see Options anywhere? So I will work my way through the remaining
suggestions ...
You know, Mozilla maintains a help forum for Thunderbird. You might
find it best to ask there.
1:33 p.m.
On 2019-11-16 13:01, Joe Zeff wrote:
You are probably right. I generaly don't bother with forums since they
often seem like the blind misleading the blind ...
It's is working now so I can stop.
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Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
You know, Mozilla maintains a help forum for Thunderbird. You might
find it best to ask there.
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1:49 a.m.
On Sat, 2019-11-16 at 06:31 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
24 hour time seems like sucb a basic need, always wondered why it
wasn''t included as an option from the beginning with the earliest
computers? There must be some insurmountable difficulty in adding
that as an option.
Going from what I can see, it just seems to be some pigheadedness that
they want it to follow the system locale settings, perhaps as a
justification for removing yet another user configuration option.
Ignoring the fact that some people have different requirements for
certain applications than their system settings.
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