Mike Cloaked wrote:

I wonder if anyone is able to point me to information on how to use a laptop running F10, that is away from usual wired or wifi connections, but where a cellphone is available running WM6 that does have an internet connection through the phone's isp, and is bluetooth capable?

I presume that bluetooth pairing is the first step - and then somehow the phone's internet access should be connected to the laptop - possibly NetworkManager can handle this?

I have never tried this but I would like to know the steps needed to get this to work - as I am trying to help someone who has a need to be away from usual internet access where the phone can run its own browser, and the laptop could in principle communicate with it. Using the laptop would be a lot more user friendly than using the phone - and of course the laptop is running F10 with the Gnome desktop fully up to date.

Any pointers gratefully received.

I found a link that sorta describes this, but uses the USB instead of bluetooth:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340747

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Hi Mike

I am using wmwifi app which would convert your windows mobile into an access point.

http://global.wmwifirouter.com/trial/

it works flawlessly, its kinda off amazing to see the speed you get with the mobile broadband.

-- cheers. Mohan.

Rick Stevens wrote:

Mike Cloaked wrote:

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I wonder if anyone is able to point me to information on how to use a laptop running F10, that is away from usual wired or wifi connections, but where a cellphone is available running WM6 that does have an internet connection through the phone's isp, and is bluetooth capable?

I presume that bluetooth pairing is the first step - and then somehow the phone's internet access should be connected to the laptop - possibly NetworkManager can handle this?

I have never tried this but I would like to know the steps needed to get this to work - as I am trying to help someone who has a need to be away from usual internet access where the phone can run its own browser, and the laptop could in principle communicate with it. Using the laptop would be a lot more user friendly than using the phone - and of course the laptop is running F10 with the Gnome desktop fully up to date.

Any pointers gratefully received.

I found a link that sorta describes this, but uses the USB instead of bluetooth:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340747

Carrying a USB cable in the laptop bag shouldn't be a huge problem.

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Rick Stevens-3 wrote:

I found a link that sorta describes this, but uses the USB instead of bluetooth:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340747

Carrying a USB cable in the laptop bag shouldn't be a huge problem.

OK I followed up on this, and decided to try that route - it turns out that using the usb cable does work but not without some workarounds.

What I did was as follows: 1) plug in the usb cable from the HTC kaiser running WM6 to the laptop. The laptop in fact has only ethernet and usb ports for networking but not wireless. The ethernet port was not being used in this case. 2) NetworkManager recognises the connection and thinks it is connected to auto-eth1 but at this stage there is no ip address or dns info set up, and /etc/resolv.conf has no information provided by NM. 3) Now on the phone go to the Internet Sharing page, and clock "connect". The facility and packages necessary to make the connection are already installed in F10 and NM disconnects for a moment and then reconnects to auto eth1, and NM thinks there is a connection available, and so does the phone.

4) ifconfig now looks good and shows a sensible ip address (in fact in the range 192.168.0.100 or so for eth1. However no access is available to named sites using ping, ssh or firefox at this stage, but ping does make a connection to external sites by ip address!

5) Looking at /etc/resolv.conf the reason becomes clear. The nameserver is set as 192.168.0.1 (which is the phone) but the search is set to something else that appears unrelated to the phone, and a "domain" is also set not related to the phone, so NM has created a resolv.conf that fails to work. Manually editing resolv.conf to change the search line to "search 192.168.0.1" now works and ping, ssh and firefox do work but it is rather slow.

6) Since this is not ideal, I made a new connection called htc-eth1 for NM and set up the parameters by hand so that it would create a sensible resolv.conf - now when the phone is plugged in via the usb line, and connected from the phone end it makes the auto-eth1 connection as before but with the incorrect resolv.conf, and merely clicking on the NM icon and changing the connection to the htc-eth1 profile now works, and additionally setting it up without tls between the laptop and phone speeds up the connection a lot.

So the conclusion is that F10 is setup with the correct applications and nearly gets it right out of the box - but it is necessary to make a work around before you can use the connection. I presume that this is essentially a bug in NM but I have not searched to see if there are any existing reports in BZ yet.

Mike Cloaked wrote:

Rick Stevens-3 wrote:

...

I found a link that sorta describes this, but uses the USB instead of bluetooth:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340747

Carrying a USB cable in the laptop bag shouldn't be a huge problem.

OK I followed up on this, and decided to try that route - it turns out that using the usb cable does work but not without some workarounds.

What I did was as follows:

1. plug in the usb cable from the HTC kaiser running WM6 to the laptop. The

laptop in fact has only ethernet and usb ports for networking but not wireless. The ethernet port was not being used in this case. 2) NetworkManager recognises the connection and thinks it is connected to auto-eth1 but at this stage there is no ip address or dns info set up, and /etc/resolv.conf has no information provided by NM. 3) Now on the phone go to the Internet Sharing page, and clock "connect". The facility and packages necessary to make the connection are already installed in F10 and NM disconnects for a moment and then reconnects to auto eth1, and NM thinks there is a connection available, and so does the phone.

4. ifconfig now looks good and shows a sensible ip address (in fact in the

range 192.168.0.100 or so for eth1. However no access is available to named sites using ping, ssh or firefox at this stage, but ping does make a connection to external sites by ip address!

5. Looking at /etc/resolv.conf the reason becomes clear. The nameserver is

set as 192.168.0.1 (which is the phone) but the search is set to something else that appears unrelated to the phone, and a "domain" is also set not related to the phone, so NM has created a resolv.conf that fails to work. Manually editing resolv.conf to change the search line to "search 192.168.0.1" now works and ping, ssh and firefox do work but it is rather slow.

6. Since this is not ideal, I made a new connection called htc-eth1 for NM

and set up the parameters by hand so that it would create a sensible resolv.conf - now when the phone is plugged in via the usb line, and connected from the phone end it makes the auto-eth1 connection as before but with the incorrect resolv.conf, and merely clicking on the NM icon and changing the connection to the htc-eth1 profile now works, and additionally setting it up without tls between the laptop and phone speeds up the connection a lot.

So the conclusion is that F10 is setup with the correct applications and nearly gets it right out of the box - but it is necessary to make a work around before you can use the connection. I presume that this is essentially a bug in NM but I have not searched to see if there are any existing reports in BZ yet.

Glad you got it working. I have a BlackBerry, hence I use XmBlackBerry. It's a right pain in the arse to set up but it works. I don't think NM groks BlackBerrys. I don't really care for NM as it has a lot of faults when I try to use it for what I need, but some people swear by it. Me? I generally swear AT it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - If it's stupid and it works...it ain't stupid! - ----------------------------------------------------------------------