Hi,
I have successfully installed Mysql and PHP but I am unable to send email via php. Sendmail is already installed apparently. I want to know if there is a way to test email by sendmail command lines. Another thing is that how to configure sendmail because i'm just a regular customer of an internet provider. I know the provider's mail server parameters. Can sendmail be used with these parameters?
Thank you
On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 01:45 -0800, Adil Drissi wrote:
how to configure sendmail because i'm just a regular customer of an internet provider. I know the provider's mail server parameters. Can sendmail be used with these parameters?
Yes, look up how to configure "smarthost". If you need help understanding the documentation, ask more questions about it.
Adil Drissi wrote:
Hi,
I have successfully installed Mysql and PHP but I am unable to send email via php. Sendmail is already installed apparently.
Are you running SELinux? If so, you need to turn on the ability to send email from the web server, if that is what you are trying to do.
I want to know if there is a way to test email by sendmail command lines.
You will have to read the Sendmail documentation. Depending on exactly what you mean by test email, there are commands to do it. But I don't run Sendmail any more, and I don't remember the exact commands.
Another thing is that how to configure sendmail because i'm just a regular customer of an internet provider. I know the provider's mail server parameters. Can sendmail be used with these parameters?
You can set up Sendmail to use a relay host. So what you want to do is set up your ISPs SMTP server as your relay host. I think the default sendmail.mc file has a line for this, but it is commented out.
Mikkel
-----Original Message----- From: Adil Drissi adil.drissi@yahoo.com Reply-to: adil.drissi@yahoo.com, "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Sendmail Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 01:45:41 -0800 (PST)
Hi,
I have successfully installed Mysql and PHP but I am unable to send email via php. Sendmail is already installed apparently. I want to know if there is a way to test email by sendmail command lines. Another thing is that how to configure sendmail because i'm just a regular customer of an internet provider. I know the provider's mail server parameters. Can sendmail be used with these parameters?
Thank you
Another thing to check is if PHP is in safemode. If it is then set that option to off or configure the proper path in the config file. Hope that helps
Don
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Adil Drissi adil.drissi@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi,
I have successfully installed Mysql and PHP but I am unable to send email via php. Sendmail is already installed apparently. I want to know if there is a way to test email by sendmail command lines. Another thing is that how to configure sendmail because i'm just a regular customer of an internet provider. I know the provider's mail server parameters. Can sendmail be used with these parameters?
Thank you
If I recall correctly, a valid SMTP server must be configured in the submit.cf file. The 127.0.01 must change to whatever the server is.
# grep MTA /etc/mail/submit.cf D{MTAHost}[127.0.0.1]
~af
After installing the following from RPMfusion I have not been able to get YUM to work:
su -c 'rpm -Uvh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noa... http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stab...'
Below is what spits out from YUM when run to try and install the kmod-nvidia package:
[root@turtle ~]# yum update Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in <module> yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True) File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 229, in user_main errcode = main(args) File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 104, in main result, resultmsgs = base.doCommands() File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 339, in doCommands self._getTs(needTsRemove) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 101, in _getTs self._getTsInfo(remove_only) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 112, in _getTsInfo pkgSack = self.pkgSack File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 592, in <lambda> pkgSack = property(fget=lambda self: self._getSacks(), File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 435, in _getSacks self.repos.populateSack(which=repos) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/repos.py", line 251, in populateSack sack.populate(repo, mdtype, callback, cacheonly) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 162, in populate if self._check_db_version(repo, mydbtype): File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 223, in _check_db_version return repo._check_db_version(mdtype) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1147, in _check_db_version repoXML = self.repoXML File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1305, in <lambda> repoXML = property(fget=lambda self: self._getRepoXML(), File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1297, in _getRepoXML self._loadRepoXML(text=self) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1287, in _loadRepoXML return self._groupLoadRepoXML(text, ["primary"]) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1271, in _groupLoadRepoXML if self._commonLoadRepoXML(text): File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1122, in _commonLoadRepoXML result = self._getFileRepoXML(local, text) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 904, in _getFileRepoXML cache=self.http_caching == 'all') File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 744, in _getFile result = self.grab.urlgrab(misc.to_utf8(relative), local, File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 497, in <lambda> grab = property(lambda self: self._getgrab()) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 492, in _getgrab self._setupGrab() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 481, in _setupGrab self._grab = mgclass(self._grabfunc, self.urls, File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 602, in <lambda> urls = property(fget=lambda self: self._geturls(), File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 599, in _geturls self._baseurlSetup() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 559, in _baseurlSetup self.mirrorurls = self._replace_and_check_url(mirrorurls) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 594, in _replace_and_check_url print 'YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.\n Eg. %s' % misc.to_utf8(skipped) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/codecs.py", line 303, in write data, consumed = self.encode(object, self.errors) UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc2 in position 72: ordinal not in range(128)
Any ideas....??? Thanks in advance.
-Patrick
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Patrick Topping ptopping@pobox.com wrote:
Any ideas....??? Thanks in advance.
First I want the output of this command
rpm -qa "rpmfusion*"
then I want the output of these commands: rpm -V rpmfusion-nonfree-release rpm -V rpmfusion-free-release
assuming you have those packages installed...you'll see them in the output of the first command.
All,
I was able to get this issue resolved.....
-Patrick
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Patrick Topping wrote:
After installing the following from RPMfusion I have not been able to get YUM to work:
su -c 'rpm -Uvh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noa... http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stab...'
Below is what spits out from YUM when run to try and install the kmod-nvidia package:
[root@turtle ~]# yum update Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in <module> yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True) File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 229, in user_main errcode = main(args) File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 104, in main result, resultmsgs = base.doCommands() File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 339, in doCommands self._getTs(needTsRemove) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 101, in _getTs self._getTsInfo(remove_only) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 112, in _getTsInfo pkgSack = self.pkgSack File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 592, in
<lambda> pkgSack = property(fget=lambda self: self._getSacks(), File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 435, in _getSacks self.repos.populateSack(which=repos) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/repos.py", line 251, in populateSack sack.populate(repo, mdtype, callback, cacheonly) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 162, in populate if self._check_db_version(repo, mydbtype): File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 223, in _check_db_version return repo._check_db_version(mdtype) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1147, in _check_db_version repoXML = self.repoXML File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1305, in <lambda> repoXML = property(fget=lambda self: self._getRepoXML(), File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1297, in _getRepoXML self._loadRepoXML(text=self) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1287, in _loadRepoXML return self._groupLoadRepoXML(text, ["primary"]) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1271, in _groupLoadRepoXML if self._commonLoadRepoXML(text): File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1122, in _commonLoadRepoXML result = self._getFileRepoXML(local, text) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 904, in _getFileRepoXML cache=self.http_caching == 'all') File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 744, in _getFile result = self.grab.urlgrab(misc.to_utf8(relative), local, File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 497, in <lambda> grab = property(lambda self: self._getgrab()) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 492, in _getgrab self._setupGrab() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 481, in _setupGrab self._grab = mgclass(self._grabfunc, self.urls, File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 602, in <lambda> urls = property(fget=lambda self: self._geturls(), File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 599, in _geturls self._baseurlSetup() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 559, in _baseurlSetup self.mirrorurls = self._replace_and_check_url(mirrorurls) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 594, in _replace_and_check_url print 'YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.\n Eg. %s' % misc.to_utf8(skipped) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/codecs.py", line 303, in write data, consumed = self.encode(object, self.errors) UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc2 in position 72: ordinal not in range(128)
Any ideas....??? Thanks in advance.
-Patrick
All,
I was able to get this issue resolved.....
-Patrick
-----------------------------------
Patrick Topping wrote:
After installing the following from RPMfusion I have not been able to get YUM to work:
su -c 'rpm -Uvh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noa... http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stab...'
Below is what spits out from YUM when run to try and install the kmod-nvidia package:
[root@turtle ~]# yum update Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in <module> yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True) File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 229, in user_main errcode = main(args) File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 104, in main result, resultmsgs = base.doCommands() File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 339, in doCommands self._getTs(needTsRemove) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 101, in _getTs self._getTsInfo(remove_only) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 112, in _getTsInfo pkgSack = self.pkgSack File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 592, in
<lambda> pkgSack = property(fget=lambda self: self._getSacks(), File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 435, in _getSacks self.repos.populateSack(which=repos) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/repos.py", line 251, in populateSack sack.populate(repo, mdtype, callback, cacheonly) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 162, in populate if self._check_db_version(repo, mydbtype): File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 223, in _check_db_version return repo._check_db_version(mdtype) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1147, in _check_db_version repoXML = self.repoXML File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1305, in <lambda> repoXML = property(fget=lambda self: self._getRepoXML(), File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1297, in _getRepoXML self._loadRepoXML(text=self) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1287, in _loadRepoXML return self._groupLoadRepoXML(text, ["primary"]) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1271, in _groupLoadRepoXML if self._commonLoadRepoXML(text): File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 1122, in _commonLoadRepoXML result = self._getFileRepoXML(local, text) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 904, in _getFileRepoXML cache=self.http_caching == 'all') File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 744, in _getFile result = self.grab.urlgrab(misc.to_utf8(relative), local, File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 497, in <lambda> grab = property(lambda self: self._getgrab()) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 492, in _getgrab self._setupGrab() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 481, in _setupGrab self._grab = mgclass(self._grabfunc, self.urls, File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 602, in <lambda> urls = property(fget=lambda self: self._geturls(), File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 599, in _geturls self._baseurlSetup() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 559, in _baseurlSetup self.mirrorurls = self._replace_and_check_url(mirrorurls) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/yumRepo.py", line 594, in _replace_and_check_url print 'YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.\n Eg. %s' % misc.to_utf8(skipped) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/codecs.py", line 303, in write data, consumed = self.encode(object, self.errors) UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc2 in position 72: ordinal not in range(128)
Any ideas....??? Thanks in advance.
-Patrick
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Patrick Topping ptopping@pobox.com wrote:
All,
I was able to get this issue resolved.....
-Patrick
What was the fix?
~af
On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 01:45 -0800, Adil Drissi wrote:
Hi,
I have successfully installed Mysql and PHP but I am unable to send email via php. Sendmail is already installed apparently. I want to know if there is a way to test email by sendmail command lines. Another thing is that how to configure sendmail because i'm just a regular customer of an internet provider. I know the provider's mail server parameters. Can sendmail be used with these parameters?
Thank you
Adil,
In order to test an e-mail file all you have to do is use the following:
cat $desired_filename | sendmail -t
The file you create must have
------------------------------- From: user@domainfrom.com To: user@domainto.com Subject: This is a test <Blank Line> Body of Message --------------------------
Where <blank line> is just a carriage return or blank line.
and "------------------------" is not part of the data in the file
Configuring sendmail ranges from very simple to way too complex to think about. You will need to purchase the BAT book "Sendmail" by O'Rielly. The syntax and grammar are to varied to discuss on the list, but send me an e-mail if you want some offline help.
Greg Ennis
Adil Drissi wrote:
I have successfully installed Mysql and PHP but I am unable to send email via php. Sendmail is already installed apparently. I want to know if there is a way to test email by sendmail command lines. Another thing is that how to configure sendmail because i'm just a regular customer of an internet provider. I know the provider's mail server parameters. Can sendmail be used with these parameters?
My ISP is called eircom.net . So I uncommented and edited the line define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.eircom.net')dnl in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc , and followed the instructions at the head of this file to give the command "make -C /etc/mail".
I think that is all one normally needs to do. I certainly do not want to read a book about sendmail.
The file /var/log/maillog gives information (too much information) about what happens to each mail message.
Around 01:23pm on Thursday, February 05, 2009 (UK time), Timothy Murphy scrawled:
Adil Drissi wrote:
I have successfully installed Mysql and PHP but I am unable to send email via php. Sendmail is already installed apparently. I want to know if there is a way to test email by sendmail command lines. Another thing is that how to configure sendmail because i'm just a regular customer of an internet provider. I know the provider's mail server parameters. Can sendmail be used with these parameters?
My ISP is called eircom.net . So I uncommented and edited the line define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.eircom.net')dnl in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc , and followed the instructions at the head of this file to give the command "make -C /etc/mail".
Make sure you have sendmail-cf installed, as well as sendmail.
Also restart sendmail.
I certainly do not want to read a book about sendmail.
No sense of fun, some people :-) However be carefull not to end up running an open mail relay.
Steve
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net wrote:
My ISP is called eircom.net . So I uncommented and edited the line define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.eircom.net')dnl in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc , and followed the instructions at the head of this file to give the command "make -C /etc/mail".
I think you want
define(`SMART_HOST', `[smtp.eircom.net]')dnl
instead. The square brackets tell sendmail *not* to look up the MX for the host -- just use the A record for the relay host. Some ISPs have a different host defined for the MX host associated with the customer relay host.
Adil Drissi wrote:
Hi,
I have successfully installed Mysql and PHP but I am unable to send email via php. Sendmail is already installed apparently. I want to know if there is a way to test email by sendmail command lines. Another thing is that how to configure sendmail because i'm just a regular customer of an internet provider. I know the provider's mail server parameters. Can sendmail be used with these parameters?
To just test mail you can send a message to yourself from the "mail" command, something like: df | mail -s "Mail to me" $LOGNAME and read the log /var/log/maillog
To accept mail from outside you need to go to /etc/mail: - edit sendmail.mc to change the DAEMON_OPTIONS to replace "127.0.0.1" with 0.0.0.0 meaning anywhere. - you have to tell your firewall to allow smtp connects from anywhere
,On Thursday, Feb 5th 2009 at 08:23 -0000, quoth Timothy Murphy:
=>Adil Drissi wrote: => =>> I have successfully installed Mysql and PHP but I am unable to send email =>> via php. Sendmail is already installed apparently. I want to know if there =>> is a way to test email by sendmail command lines. Another thing is that =>> how to configure sendmail because i'm just a regular customer of an =>> internet provider. I know the provider's mail server parameters. Can =>> sendmail be used with these parameters? => =>My ISP is called eircom.net . =>So I uncommented and edited the line =>define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.eircom.net')dnl =>in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc , =>and followed the instructions at the head of this file =>to give the command "make -C /etc/mail". => =>I think that is all one normally needs to do. =>I certainly do not want to read a book about sendmail. => =>The file /var/log/maillog gives information (too much information) =>about what happens to each mail message.
I'm certainly a proponent of always looking for low-hanging fruit, but in this case, I'd have to say that running a sendmail server is certainly one of those cases where you really can't know too much and that not knowing enough is just going to cause problems.
So in the spirit of offering constructive comment, here is some of the sendmail section of my library:
* The Bat Book from O'Reilly. If that's all you have then you're not going far. It's really a reference book. * The Sendmail Cookbook. Excellent to have around. I wish it was twice as thick. * Linux Sendmail Administration by Craig Hunt. Very good presentation. * Sendmail Performance Tuning by Christensen. Just what it says it is. * Sendmail Milters by Costales Flynt. Once I thought I'd want to write a milter. Still do, but it got pushed down the list.
* And last but not least, Sendmail Theory and Practice 2nd ed by Vixie and Avolio. This is THE book and AFAICT, the ONLY place to find out how to actually program sendmail. I'm not talking about those namby pamby m5 macros. I'm taking about the good stuff. The stuff that puts hair on your chest. The stuff that makes all those gurly men cry.
R< $&h ! > $-.$+ ! $+ $@ $3 < @ $1.$2 > R$* $| <$*> <$={Tls}:$- + $+>$* $: <$2> <$3:$4> <$5> $1 R<?> <$+> <$*> <$- $-> <$*> $@ <$2> <$5>
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 18:57 -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote:
,On Thursday, Feb 5th 2009 at 08:23 -0000, quoth Timothy Murphy:
=>Adil Drissi wrote: => =>> I have successfully installed Mysql and PHP but I am unable to send email =>> via php. Sendmail is already installed apparently. I want to know if there =>> is a way to test email by sendmail command lines. Another thing is that =>> how to configure sendmail because i'm just a regular customer of an =>> internet provider. I know the provider's mail server parameters. Can =>> sendmail be used with these parameters? => =>My ISP is called eircom.net . =>So I uncommented and edited the line =>define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.eircom.net')dnl =>in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc , =>and followed the instructions at the head of this file =>to give the command "make -C /etc/mail". => =>I think that is all one normally needs to do. =>I certainly do not want to read a book about sendmail. => =>The file /var/log/maillog gives information (too much information) =>about what happens to each mail message.
I'm certainly a proponent of always looking for low-hanging fruit, but in this case, I'd have to say that running a sendmail server is certainly one of those cases where you really can't know too much and that not knowing enough is just going to cause problems.
So in the spirit of offering constructive comment, here is some of the sendmail section of my library:
The Bat Book from O'Reilly. If that's all you have then you're not going far. It's really a reference book.
The Sendmail Cookbook. Excellent to have around. I wish it was twice as thick.
Linux Sendmail Administration by Craig Hunt. Very good presentation.
Sendmail Performance Tuning by Christensen. Just what it says it is.
Sendmail Milters by Costales Flynt. Once I thought I'd want to write a milter. Still do, but it got pushed down the list.
And last but not least, Sendmail Theory and Practice 2nd ed by Vixie and Avolio. This is THE book and AFAICT, the ONLY place to find out how to actually program sendmail. I'm not talking about those namby pamby m5 macros. I'm taking about the good stuff. The stuff that puts hair on your chest. The stuff that makes all those gurly men cry.
R< $&h ! > $-.$+ ! $+ $@ $3 < @ $1.$2 > R$* $| <$*> <$={Tls}:$- + $+>$* $: <$2> <$3:$4> <$5> $1 R<?> <$+> <$*> <$- $-> <$*> $@ <$2> <$5>
--
Stephen,
Good Advice.... could not agree more!!!
Greg