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Fedora 10 Stables feed broken?
by Andre Costa 21 Dec '08

21 Dec '08

Hi, anyone managed to subscribe to Fedora 10 Stables feed? I always get: "500 Internal error The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request." Other feeds (Pending, Testing and Security) are all fine. Regards, Andre

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laptop issues and F10
by Wade Hampton 21 Dec '08

21 Dec '08

G'day, I think the second set of major problems I had reported to the list about my Fedora 10 laptop were due to the first Beta of 64-bit Flash.... Details were: - Fedora 10 x86-64 with updates - First Flash 64-bit alpha - Gateway MX 6421 laptop with Radeon Xpress 200M video - Have to use nomodeset on kernel to get it to keep from hard locking up -- is there a fix for this yet? Even after the nomodeset option, on occasion the laptop would lock up where only the mouse worked and the CPU seemed to be pegged at 100%. There were no screen updates and the keyboard would not respond. I have yet to experience this problem since I updated to the 2nd Flash beta on Friday. Happy Holidays and thanks for the help, -- Wade Hampton

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fuse changed my mount points?
by Steve Blackwell 21 Dec '08

21 Dec '08

I'm running a dual boot system and have done for years. It goes back far enough that external filesystems used to be mounted on /mnt instead of the current preferred place of /media. Some recent update decided (without any notification) that /mnt was now too old and my XP system should be mounted on /media/disk instead of what I had set up which was /mnt/c_drive. This also bumped my external USB drive from /mdeia/disk to /media/disk-1 As a result, I can no longer access my XP C drive, Samba is broken and BackupPC which uses the USB drive is also broken. Where can I configure fuse so that I can revert back to the old mount point? I'm assuming that this has something to do with automount but I don't see anything in /etc/auto.master or /etc/auto.misc. Thanks, Steve

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How do you start the desktops that come with Fedora 10
by Morris.Marshael 21 Dec '08

21 Dec '08

How do you start the desktops that come with Fedora 10 and what desktop can be added? Thanks, Marshael mccg.org email firewall made the following annotation ************************************************************ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted in this e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, privileged and/or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, retransmission, use, disclosure, dissemination or other use of,or taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail, or by calling (478) 633-7272, and destroy the original message, attachments and all copies thereof on all computers and in any other form. Thank you. The Medical Center Of Central Georgia. http://www.mccg.org/ ************************************************************ 12/19/08, 09:10:46

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Lets test the h@!! out of KDE4.2 before it releases...
by linux guy 21 Dec '08

21 Dec '08

Everyone wants a stable, bug free KDE4.2 release, ASAP, right ? (Its scheduled to be released on January 20th.) Rex has created an F10 KDE4.2 beta iso here: http://rdieter.livejournal.com/11344.html Its very easy to make a bootable USB drive from this image using the following command: livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr --noverify --overlay-size-mb 100 --home-size-mb 150 --unencrypted-home --delete-home /home/xxx/Download/f10-kde-4.1.85-2/livecd-f10-kde-4.1.85-200812161507.iso /dev/sdc1 I have been reporting bugs to the Fedora kde list at fedora-kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org . You can subscribe to it here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kde We can find bugs in KDE4.2 now or we can find them after its released. Myself, I download the isos when they are released and write it to my USB key while I work on something else. When I have to do some browsing or I have some spare time, I boot the USB image and do a bit of testing. To report bugs, I access gmail with konqueror during the session. (Konqueror now works with gmail !) If we all spent a few hours playing around with KDE 4.2 before it releases, it would dramatically increase the amount of real world user testing it receives. I'm sure this would increase its stability when its released. Thanks for listening.

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Re: Hidden download performance problem with Fedora 6-10
by Chuck 21 Dec '08

21 Dec '08

> > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Joshua C. <joshuacov(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > +1 > > > > I've seen really fast mirrors but when it comes to update the speed > > drops to ~300kbps. when directly downloading from a mirror I get ~ > > 1,6mbps. with other distro I haven't seen this, though. it is not a > > connection problem but a fedora problem (I think). > > > > if i can assist, let me know. > > > > 2008/12/19, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com>: >> >> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:39:31 -0800 >> >> Chuck <ctleis(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> I have not used Fedora because of the following issue. >>> >>> >>> >>> I get VERY SLOW performance or hangs when downloading from >>> >>> repositories etc. on every Fedora version I have tried. I have seen >>> >>> users raising this issue since Fedora Core 4. So I can't use Fedora; >>> >>> but would like to. I apologize for the length of the message. I >>> >>> have tried the Forum but got no help there. >> >> >> >> ...snip... >> >> >>> >>> Non-stop. Just over an hour duration. Full speed and ON THE VERY >>> >>> SAME HARDWARE. >> >> > It appears that there is a bandwidth shaper involved ... > It is not uncommon for ISPs to hobble links when they > detect some types of download. > > Also when packets are lost the link speed and TCP/IP window for the > download is reshaped. One Vista I see what you see so I am inclined > to believe that the network has issues. > > I would use the bandwidth limits of curl or wget to see if I can > keep under the rate that triggers packet loss or detection triggers. > > -- > NiftyFedora > T o m M i t c h e l l Thanks for the idea. Some added info. 1) I can boot many OSs on the same hardware by using a disk caddy for the boot drive. 2) Debian, Ubuntu, PCLinuxOS, Suse, ArchLinux (and others) work just fine as far as downloading speed is concerned. 3) On an installed Fedora 9 on this machine, I tested with and without IPV6, and even switched which NIC went to internet. Results were the same: No Good. 4) Oh yes, I had a similar problem on a different PC as well. Fedora produced the only distros that failed. I can explore the suggestion re: bandwidth shaper, but am curious as to why my network would be only sensitive to downloads that Fedora initiates. Also, if some tweak to wget makes it work, what about yum and friends? If you are on the right track, ie, the download is too fast, then I offer the suggestion that Fedora doesn't allow enough buffer space for the enet driver to handle the traffic. Buffer becomes full, transfer stops, "peer" decides that there is some error, resets connection, and we go to retry or next mirror. I'll let you know what happens... charlie.

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Re: Hidden download performance problem with Fedora 6-10
by Kevin Fenzi 21 Dec '08

21 Dec '08

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:09:27 -0800 Chuck <ctleis(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry to bother you with this, but my reply to you on the fedora-list > was rejected by the list moderator. Probably too long. Or else I > don't know how to reply correctly...(I get the Digest version.) Yeah, I think there is a size limit... > So I am sending the output you requested directly to you in the > attachment. It is huge. > > Perhaps you can make something of it. > Thanks for any help I hope you don't mind me copying the list on this... I wonder if you are running into "82573(V/L/E) TX Unit Hang Messages" see: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/9180/eng/README.txt look for "82573(V/L/E) TX Unit Hang Messages" perhaps the debian kernel doesn't hit the power management issue with that? Can you see if the test listed there shows you are affected? > > charlie > kevin

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Auto-run a DVD
by Frank Cox 21 Dec '08

21 Dec '08

On a F10 laptop, when I insert a commercial movie dvd I get a window that tells me "you have just inserted a video dvd" and gives me an opportunity to select a default application to open it with. However, the bar to make the selection in says "no applications found". A bit of google-searching tells me that the System-Preferences-Hardware Removable Drives and Media should have a Multimedia tab where I can set this, but it doesn't. The only tabs that I have are Cameras-PDAs-Printers & Scanners-Input Devices So how can I tell this thing to automatically crank up gnome-mplayer when I insert a video dvd? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com

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Plymouth Config
by Joseph L. Casale 21 Dec '08

21 Dec '08

I have a mobo with an Intel 3100, when I edit the grub conf with the closest mode to what I want, 0x34B it fails and asks me to scan. I scan and see its listed, and type it in manually and it boots? Is this what's expected with the Intel chips, or is there something I can do? Thanks! jlc

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Simple question regarding touch and mv
by Dan Thurman 21 Dec '08

21 Dec '08

I wonder why this fails: # touch '-foo' touch: invalid option -- 'o' # touch '\-foo' (works) # mv '-foo' foo mv: invalid option -- 'o' Try `mv --help' for more information. What confuses me is, if foo was surrounded by double-quotes, then expansion may be a problem but with single-quotes, no expansion is performed, so why does both commands fail? Is this some quirkiness in the way command arguments are being handled? Just wondered, Dan

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