On Tuesday 27 December 2005 21:00, Patrick Barnes wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 December 2005 19:18, John Summerfied wrote:
> >William Hooper wrote:
> >> Kam Leo wrote:
> >>>On 12/23/05, William Hooper <whooperhsd3(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>>Kam Leo wrote:
> >>>>[snip]
> >>>>
> >>>>>The exact details are still being discussed in the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>fedora-websites-list .
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The way this is being handled is kind of stealthy (clubmembers
> >>>>> only)
> >>>>
> >>>>How is a publicly archived and open to all subscribers mailing
> >>>> list "clubmembers only"?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>William Hooper
> >>>
> >>>If the links have been removed how does one get informed about
> >>> the list or membership?
> >>
> >> All the Redhat (and Fedora) mailing lists are still listed in
> >> the same place:
http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/
> >>
> >> The creation of the list was announced on the fedora-marketing
> >> list:
> >>
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-Novem
> >>ber /msg00006.html
> >
> >Great. How many current and prospective Fedora fans does that
> > reach?
>
> An educated guess, based on 71 years of observing, would be maybe
> 0.00003% of zip. Get real, if you want folks to know about
> something, then by damn post it to the list thats got the
> circulation, not to some list where the main point is to invent a
> new buzzword_du_jour. Geez, the marketing numbskulls we have to put
> up with, boggles the mind...
If you two are going to troll, do it elsewhere.
I had no intention of being a 'troll' as you call it. I was calling
attention to the apparent lack of publicity however.
We aren't out to create a list that every user on the planet is
meant
to sign up for and use. It, like most of the other Fedora lists, is
primarily for relevant developer discussion. People who are
motivated enough to provide feedback can find the list the same way
as all of the other lists are found, and signing up for the list is
not a big request. If it were, so many people wouldn't already to
it. As far as notifying users of the changes, yes, we needed to do
more, and we've taken further steps now. Some of the people who
maintain the sites, such as myself, do watch for user feedback on
this list and in other places. It isn't hard to reach us.
As far as bashing the Marketing team, that is completely unwarranted.
It is a small team of volunteers who are chasing developments to get
things done. If you think you can make a positive contribution,
you're welcome to join. If you think that the efforts of our team
members are unsatisfactory, I'm sorry you feel that way, but being
insulting and doing nothing isn't going to accomplish anything.
Well, we did get a response, and a positive one at that. As for the
implied insult, I wasn't trying to be personal about it Patrick. My
aplogies if you took it that way. What I was pointing out was the
inconguity of publishing the info on a list with what, 50 subscribers?
End of thread (I hope)
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