On 10/12/22 07:39, Tim via users wrote:
Stephen Morris:
>>> Pipewire doesn't work. It was videos not playing without audio
>>> muted that started this thread. And from what I've seen on the net
>>> there is potentially a lot of manual configuration required to get
>>> pipewire to work, so my view on what I'm seeing is pipewire is not
>>> exactly stable.
Tim:
>> It does on my Fedora 36 installation, without me doing anything. I
>> did a default fresh install, and this's what it installed, I didn't
>> do any customisation of audio: It has pipepire and wireplumber,
>> there's no pulseaudio.
Stephen Morris:
> I've just gotten back on after a fresh install, because I tried a
> suggestion in an earlier thread to remove packages by passing
> dependencies and removed pulseaudio and after doing that and rebooting
> both Gnome and KDE refused to start.
> I installed F36 from a live cd and it installed both pipewire and
> pulseaudio and configured the system to use pulseaudio, and youtube
> videos play properly with sound.
I should add my (fresh) install was a MATE-Compiz spin, with no other
desktop systems installed. So we may have different defaults.
[tim@fluffy ~]$ rpm -qa \*pulse\*
pulseaudio-libs-15.0-5.fc36.x86_64
pulseaudio-libs-glib2-15.0-5.fc36.x86_64
pulseaudio-utils-15.0-5.fc36.x86_64
pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64
[tim@fluffy ~]$ rpm -qa \*pipe\*
libpipeline-1.5.5-2.fc36.x86_64
pipewire-codec-aptx-0.3.59-1.fc36.x86_64
pipewire-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64
pipewire-libs-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64
pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64
pipewire-alsa-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64
pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64
pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64
pipewire-utils-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64
Hi Tim,
I'm running with KDE and Gnome and when I issued those two command
in F37 I got a similar display. There are a few pulseaudio packages that
aren't installed, but if pulseaudio is deprecated it's not work
installing them.
[Steve@fedora ~]$ rpm -qa \*pulse\*
pulseaudio-libs-16.1-1.fc37.x86_64
pulseaudio-utils-16.1-1.fc37.x86_64
pulseaudio-libs-glib2-16.1-1.fc37.x86_64
gvncpulse-1.3.0-5.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pulseaudio-qt-1.3-3.fc37.x86_64
kde-settings-pulseaudio-37.0-1.fc37.noarch
[steve@fedora ~]$ rpm -qa \*pipe\*
libpipeline-1.5.6-2.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-libs-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-codec-aptx-0.3.60-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-alsa-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-utils-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
kpipewire-5.26.4-1.fc37.x86_64
I'm inclined to say if you've got a working system, then don't try
swapping pulseaudio for pipewire, or vice versa. Stick with a working
system.
Yes, I'm going to leave things as they are. The only reason I started
playing around was youtube videos that played fine in Windows in Firefox
Nightly wouldn't play in F37 in Firefox Nightly unless audio was
manually muted in the video.
I wonder if your prior research showing pipewire needed lots of
configuration was to do with people using it like jack? So they can
plumb *this* through *that* for special purposes. I had a brief dabble
with that trying several different audio recording software programs
and gave up for it being hideously complex and ill-explained.
I was going to
provide the link that I bookmarked, but I've lost that
because I didn't backup the .mozilla folder when I rebuilt my system,
and it hadn't synced with Nightly in Windows.
regards,
Steve
I work in audio-video production, and patching hardware into extremely
complex combinations is something I'm well used to (since the 1990s).
But I find the computing fraternity's attempts to do similar things
always terribly mangled. Audio workstations are a nightmare. Way too
much like the old domestic Tascam 4 channel cassette decks with people
submixing and overdubbing all over the place to cope with its lack of
enough tracks, and its oddball input channels configuration.
So I don't go much past Audacity, and manual editing that's not all
that far removed from 1/4" tape-editing with tape and razor blades.