Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

Monday, 1 December 2014

On 12/01/2014 08:23 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
...
 HI

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

     Perhaps at some point we will get better tools for using systemd. 

 Thanks for bringing in something useful to the discussion that I can 
 address:

     I mean compare:

     systemctl restart sshd.service

     with

     service sshd restart

     Is there something else to do with sshd other than sshd.service? 
     I have not found it.  Why not:

     systemctl restart sshd

 Have you tried?  Hint:  It works fine. 
Nope.  Nice to know.

...
     Then there was good old 'chkconfig' that produced a nice
tablular
     report of services that can be controlled.  I have yet to find
     anything close to this with systemd.

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet 
You think

'chkconfig --list' can be easily replaced with

systemctl list-unit-files --type=service(preferred)
ls /etc/systemd/system/*.wants/

Nah.  No way.

Oh, and that (perferred) gives an error  :)

And the list is hugh compared to what services are really up to user 
control.  I mean listed items like:

dbus-org.fedoraproject.FirewallD1.service   enabled
dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service      static
dbus-org.freedesktop.locale1.service        static
dbus-org.freedesktop.login1.service         static
dbus-org.freedesktop.machine1.service       static
dbus-org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.service  enabled
dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service enabled
dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service  enabled
dbus-org.freedesktop.timedate1.service      static
dbus.service                                static

And there are others there that are just as challenging to remember when 
you need them.