desktop April 2009

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gtk print dialog and OOo
by Caolán McNamara 11 Jul '09

11 Jul '09

We've supported a gtk print dialog integration in OOo for a while, but there has always been a few little gotchas, and now that the "built-in" OOo dialog has some nifty extras there are extra gotchas. So I'll be reverting to the "built-in" dialog for F11, a quick dump of the gotchas are.. *) Need an extra "Selection" option for printing. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344519 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563619 OOo can print just the selected text, selected graphic or selected cells, but no way to show that in the gtk print dialog. *) Way to specify the page size and orientation (esp. when using n-up printing) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551409 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551726 Most OpenOffice.org applications have per-page orientations rather than global per print-job orientation, but when printing multiple pages in one sheet of paper through cups, its desirable to have a way to specify the orientation and page size of the combined sheet. We could do this with a custom tab, but see next entry *) Emit a signal when a printer is selected. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=564854 So e.g. a custom tab that should only exist for say, printing to a cups backend, or using save as .pdf file can be shown/hidden depending on the printer selection, e.g. pdf encryption options or pdf "read-only except for filling in fields" directives which only make sense in a save as .pdf context. Hackable around with nasty switch-page callback on the notebook widget if you rummage around horrifically through the dialog hierarchy looking for it. *) Spreadsheet printing No "All Sheets", "Selected Sheets" in addition to the pages options for spreadsheets that may have multiple sheets each of which can span multiple pages. "Page 1 of 2 sheets selected out of 3 sheets in total". Could do a gnumeric and do this in a custom tab though *) Presentation printing Want to select notes, or outline, or handouts. Could do this in a custom tab though.

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Epiphany 2.28 and webkitgtk
by Martin Sourada 28 Apr '09

28 Apr '09

Hi all, the WebKit GTK port, webkitgtk, has gained some momentum during the Fedora 11 development and it looks like it might be ready for being default in Epiphany 2.28 [1]. And so I though it might be worth tracking this change and helping with testing for Fedora 12 (I have been already testing webkitgtk in midori and I can see it has improved *a lot* during the past few months and much more improvements will come in the next release as well). Because this falls under the Desktop SIG 'reign', I thought I'd contact you first, even before trying to sketch some feature page, to see what are your positions regarding this change. Do we have some specific use cases that we consider a must-have for epiphany being ship with WebKit back-end in Fedora in addition to those outlined at the upstream tracking page[1] (ability to authenticate to koji web interface [2] springs to mind)? Are there any general concerns about using WebKit over XULRunner in Epiphany in Fedora? On a similar note, perhaps worth a different thread in -devel list, webkitgtk supports (more or less functionally from my experience) browser plug-ins using the NP API (swfdec-mozilla, java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin, totem-mozplugin, etc). These are usually put into -mozplugin or -mozilla subpackages. I am not sure how much of sense this makes when these are actually used both in mozilla based and webkit based (IIRC the QT port of WebKit supports them as well) applications and as such the mozilla suffix does not make much sense. Perhaps -(web)browser-plugin would be a better suffix? Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany/WebKit228 [2] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/

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Open source and diagramming survey
by chung＠engr.orst.edu 27 Apr '09

27 Apr '09

Dear open source contributors, I am Eunyoung Chung, a Masters student working with Dr. Jensen at Oregon State University. We are currently doing a research project in collaboration with Dr. Truong and Ph.D student Koji Yatani at University of Toronto. Our goal is to understand how contributors communicate and collaborate in Open Source Software (OSS) projects, including diagramming practices. We are seeking volunteers for a quick survey on this topic. Any person who is actively working on a OSS project is eligible. The survey takes approximately 10-15 minutes, and the 5 volunteers will be picked to receive a $30 Amazon gift certificate. Your participation is anonymous (unless you consent to have us contact you) Here is the survey address. https://secure.engr.oregonstate.edu/limesurvey/58564/lang-en We really appreciate your help!

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Empathy feature
by Jon Stanley 24 Apr '09

24 Apr '09

This will be a topic at tomorrow's FESCo meeting, for whoever is interested. The feature owner is listed as this list,. and I didn't see my notification from Trac in the archives, so figured that I'd manually tell the list.

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Recording from front mic in Fedora 11
by Rahul Sundaram 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

Hi I would like to record sounds and use voice chat. In the previous version, I would change the input source from mic to front mic to do this. The new GNOME volume preferences in Fedora 11 doesn't expose all the ALSA controls. This is discussed in many places including: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491372 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495148 I tried pavucontrol and it doesn't seem to allow me to set the input source either. I had to install xfce4-mixer to finally get this. What is the recommended solution here? Rahul

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Using champlain sometime in the future?
by Debarshi Ray 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

Champlain recently got a Summer of Code student to work on getting the map rendered locally [1] (using OpenStreetMap xml data) as opposed to downloading the pre-rendered tiles as is currently being done. If it works out well, would it be a good idea to use it in our clock applet and timezone selection widgets? Cheers, Debarshi [1] http://socghop.appspot.com/student_project/show/google/gsoc2009/gnome/t1240… -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig

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Replacing Tomboy with Gnote in Fedora GNOME group
by Rahul Sundaram 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

Hi, I just packaged and pushed in Gnote, a a port of Tomboy to C++ for rawhide (and Fedora 10), a couple of days back. Gnote is compatible with Tomboy and you can just cp .tomboy to .gnote and use the notes. The user interface is exactly the same. The default GNOME group includes Tomboy which pulls in a considerably large number of dependencies. A quick test on a system pulls in 34 MB worth of dependencies (including 4.6 MB for Tomboy alone), while a install of Gnote pulls in just 582kb (I have not counted gtkmm since it is already required by gnome-system-monitor). Tomboy is not installed on the live cd already due to lack of space. Perhaps we can squeeze in Gnote as a replacement for Tomboy in the Fedora GNOME group? As a side note, anyone interested in gnote, feel free to sign-up as co-maintainers. Rahul ---- # yum install tomboy ================================================================================================================================= Package Arch Version Repository Size ================================================================================================================================= Installing: tomboy x86_64 0.14.0-2.fc11 rawhide 4.6 M Installing for dependencies: gnome-desktop-sharp x86_64 2.24.0-3.fc10 rawhide 211 k gnome-sharp x86_64 2.24.0-3.fc11 rawhide 326 k gtk-sharp2 x86_64 2.12.7-4.fc11 rawhide 817 k mono-addins x86_64 0.4-5.20091702svn127062.1.fc11 rawhide 483 k mono-core x86_64 2.4-9.RC1.fc11 rawhide 11 M mono-data x86_64 2.4-9.RC1.fc11 rawhide 1.5 M mono-data-sqlite x86_64 2.4-9.RC1.fc11 rawhide 157 k mono-extras x86_64 2.4-9.RC1.fc11 rawhide 1.4 M mono-web x86_64 2.4-9.RC1.fc11 rawhide 3.1 M mono-winforms x86_64 2.4-9.RC1.fc11 rawhide 3.0 M monodoc x86_64 2.4-9.RC1.fc11 rawhide 7.3 M ndesk-dbus x86_64 0.6.1a-4.fc11 rawhide 52 k ndesk-dbus-glib x86_64 0.4.1-4.fc11 rawhide 11 k Transaction Summary ================================================================================================================================= Install 14 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total download size: 34 M ---- # yum install gnote ================================================================================================================================= Package Arch Version Repository Size ================================================================================================================================= Installing: gnote x86_64 0.1.1-4.fc11 rawhide 492 k Installing for dependencies: libxml++ x86_64 2.24.2-2.fc11 rawhide 90 k Transaction Summary ================================================================================================================================= Install 2 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total download size: 582 k

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Updating the gnome-software-development group in comps
by Matthias Clasen 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

I recently noticed that the gnome-software-development group in comps has some things in the default install that should probably be relegated to optional nowadays: eel2-devel libgnomeprintui22-devel libart_lgpl-devel are the immediate candidates. And glade2 should probably be replaced by glade3. If nobody objects violently, I'll make these changes later this week. Matthias

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kernel panic solved - gfx still messed up ... pic included!
by J L 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

I ran another yum update, and now kernel panic's are gone! :)) However, the gfx issue remains, here is a screenshot. http://imagebin.ca/view/YhB8GYlL.html remember, this is a T40 IBM laptop with ATI 7500 class graphics chip, are these STILL not working in linux?? I thought those older ATI issues were fixed... Help please _________________________________________________________________ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621

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getting kernel panics with f11 beta...
by J L 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

Hi all, new to this list, and I'm hoping not to get shot down... I've installed the f11 beta (kde version) from cd on to a T40 laptop (old Pentium M at 1.5Ghz)... 512 Megs RAM I have had extreme delays (like 3+ hours to install), and even 30+ minutes to boot from CD on this system... not sure if it was a CD/DVD driver issue or what... In any case, the install worked after much patience, then I did update the system with yum... in both cases, before and after the update, I'm getting consistent kernel panics, which I have sent back for analysis. Also, I'm getting some weird graphics 'melt downs' over time, what happens is 'fuzzy' / 'dirty' graphics are progressively happening mostly on window borders/title areas, and it seems to get worse over time. If you would like a screenshot, I could provide one... but basically, imagine a non-linear type corruption which would turn an otherwise monochromatic background section of a title bar into a dual or tri-colored pattern... I have run low level diagnostics on this system, and a full memory test which shows no errors. _________________________________________________________________ Share photos with friends on Windows Live Messenger http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9650734

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